Braun tests positive for PEDs.

[SPTO]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

The policy on testing needs to be reworked. If it's a medication he's taking that contains banned substances, players should be able to ask for a waiver for this kind of thing to be okay'ed to show up as a positive.

What, so he's not allowed to treat whatever condition he may have? It doesn't make any sense. Under the current rules, that's what's happening.

I guess players could fabricate conditions, but still. I don't think every player is going to say, "Oh I have to take this for this, so let that high result slide."

You make great points and I agree with you on that. I think though just for the sake of being on the safe side that if you're going to ask for a waiver and have an issue that way then MLB should be allowed to have an independent 2nd medical opinion that way it'll keep the whole idea of "player X faking a medical condition" at bay.

[ImTellinTim]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

You make great points and I agree with you on that. I think though just for the sake of being on the safe side that if you're going to ask for a waiver and have an issue that way then MLB should be allowed to have an independent 2nd medical opinion that way it'll keep the whole idea of "player X faking a medical condition" at bay.

Yes, why wouldn't he have cleared whatever he was taking if this is supposed to be true? So now Braun, the doctor, and the trainer are all supposedly naive and ignorant of the effects of something he was taking? Sorry, doesn't add up.

[roadman]

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Yes, why wouldn't he have cleared whatever he was taking if this is supposed to be true? So now Braun, the doctor, and the trainer are all supposedly naive and ignorant of the effects of something he was taking? Sorry, doesn't add up.

I agree with you, but how do we know Braun's team didn't alert MLB that he was taking a medication? Did MLB give it to the right people? Did Braun's team give it to the right people? Did Braun's team give the information to anyone. So, who's the naive party, Braun or MLB?

There are a lot of unanswered questions and they may stay unanswered if it's a private medical issue.

[slickdtc]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

His lawyer had this to say on Friday.

Braun's representatives at CAA Sports have retained prominent attorney David Cornwell to handle the appeal, and on Friday, Cornwell appeared on CNN to criticize the "breathless coverage" of the story.

"Confidentiality was breached here, and I think we will find -- I fully expect to be able to demonstrate that Ryan did not violate the substance policy of Major League Baseball," Cornwell told CNN. "And consequently, we shouldn't be dealing with this discussion at all, but at a minimum, I urge everybody to keep an open mind and give us the chance to make our case in private."

Of course, that was before the leak came out today. Surprise, leaks all over the place.

If the report is true, shame for rushing to judge Braun.

Ehh, that's the day and age we live in. Everything gets leaked before it's official. It certainly sucks that this came out if Braun's decision does get overturned, and I'd be pissed if I were him. But it's not like Braun is the first person to have information about him leaked out before it became concrete.

There were leaks before Braun, and there will be plenty of leaks after Braun.

[roadman]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Ehh, that's the day and age we live in. Everything gets leaked before it's official. It certainly sucks that this came out if Braun's decision does get overturned, and I'd be pissed if I were him. But it's not like Braun is the first person to have information about him leaked out before it became concrete.

There were leaks before Braun, and there will be plenty of leaks after Braun.

The point, though, is someone breached confidentiality working for MLB because he is going through arbitration. It doesn't matter if it's done before or done afterwards, the players, according to the players union, are allowed confidentiality until after the arbitration process is over with.

MLB needs to clamp down on that so, if someone like Bruan, if proved innocent, doesn't need to go through that.

[Sportsforever]

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Heard earlier today that TMZ (highly credible I know) is reporting that a direct source with MLB is saying Braun's initial test result is going to be thrown out and there will be no repercussions for the failed test. They have confirmed that it was a medication he was taking for a private medical matter prescribed by a doctor...

Again, take all that with a grain of salt as it's TMZ, but will be interesting to hear the story if all that is true.

[ubernoob]

Heard earlier today that TMZ (highly credible I know) is reporting that a direct source with MLB is saying Braun's initial test result is going to be thrown out and there will be no repercussions for the failed test. They have confirmed that it was a medication he was taking for a private medical matter prescribed by a doctor...

Again, take all that with a grain of salt as it's TMZ, but will be interesting to hear the story if all that is true.

Fits in with the herpaderp story that's circulating. He's clean!!!!!

Of peds anyways.

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[yougo1000]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Selig and co. should talk to the nutritionists that gave him the drugs and see if he really was using the drugs for a private medical reason.

[SPTO]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Heard earlier today that TMZ (highly credible I know) is reporting that a direct source with MLB is saying Braun's initial test result is going to be thrown out and there will be no repercussions for the failed test. They have confirmed that it was a medication he was taking for a private medical matter prescribed by a doctor...

Again, take all that with a grain of salt as it's TMZ, but will be interesting to hear the story if all that is true.

Just wanted to say that's great news but also mention that TMZ is trash when it comes strictly to celebrity news but when there's a legal aspect to the stories it's usually far more credible then even ESPN. The guy that runs it (something Levin) has a legal background and was/is a practicing lawyer. So they cover their bases well that way and have a lot of sources within the legal/police world.

[roadman]

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Selig and co. should talk to the nutritionists that gave him the drugs and see if he really was using the drugs for a private medical reason.

If it was a prescribed medication, I'm sure they would go to the doctor instead of a nutritionist.

[yougo1000]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

If it was a prescribed medication, I'm sure they would go to the doctor instead of a nutritionist.

True, unless it was for a nutrition problem and the doctor had recommended Braun to the nutritionist.

[p_rushing]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Or they could go the Olympic testing way and say you can't use it. People can fake a condition and say they need the meds so they also get the PED benefits from it. They need to say that you can't use anything and if you take a medication, then you need to have it approved first.

[Jgainsey]

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Or they could go the Olympic testing way and say you can't use it. People can fake a condition and say they need the meds so they also get the PED benefits from it. They need to say that you can't use anything and if you take a medication, then you need to have it approved first.

I'm not sure what kind of system they have set up for medication approval, but if I were a baseball player in this day and age, I'd be calling MLB every time I filled a prescription.

Also, I'd make sure my doctor knew damn well that x,y,z,etc.. are banned by my employer(ya know, major league baseball.. you may have heard of them).

Hell, I dunno if this would be legally feasible, but I'd also get my lawyer to write up something for every doc I visited, essentially making them responsible to any degree possible. I'd pay the doctors extra and take any and every precaution available.. It's only your multi-million dollar reputation on the line.

[roadman]

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True, unless it was for a nutrition problem and the doctor had recommended Braun to the nutritionist.

Understood, but call me crazy, I don't see where "private medical reason" and a nutrition problem on the same page. I just don't feel a private medical reason falls under the broad scope of nutrition problem.

[ryan36]

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Understood, but call me crazy, I don't see where "private medical reason" and a nutrition problem on the same page. I just don't feel a private medical reason falls under the broad scope of nutrition problem.

But if the medical reason has to do with one's privates doesn't that make it private?