Braun tests positive for PEDs.

[roadman]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Eh, I knew the accusations would start to fly with Selig and Braun. Selig isn't the owner anymore, if he was, the Brewers would still be floundering in the bottom of the division.

By the way, the committee can render a decision up to 25 days after the hearings. This puts the deadline date around this coming Sunday. MLB will give out the punishment if Braun is suspended, Braun's camp announces his innocence if he is.

[Money99]

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With every passing day and no word on a suspension, I really think Ryan might be found innocent... Anybody with me on this? Don't we usually hear about suspension decisions within 2-3 days? Where this is going on 3 weeks now... Idk but I like Braun's chances!

I'm starting to think so too.

Regardless if he gets off or not, his name will be soiled for a time.
I really hope he's innocent. I like Braun and I think baseball and it's fans need a guy of his calibre being clean.
Hopefully it just a mix-up with some personal meds that caused the positive result.

[The Kid 24]

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I'm starting to think so too.

Regardless if he gets off or not, his name will be soiled for a time.
I really hope he's innocent. I like Braun and I think baseball and it's fans need a guy of his calibre being clean.
Hopefully it just a mix-up with some personal meds that caused the positive result.

I really think this is the case for Braun... I'm hoping at least!

[Bellsprout]

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Every day when I log on to OS for the first time and see this thread bumped I think "Finally, today must be the day." and then it isn't.

I just want this over with.

[Sportsforever]

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I'm starting to think so too.

Regardless if he gets off or not, his name will be soiled for a time.
I really hope he's innocent. I like Braun and I think baseball and it's fans need a guy of his calibre being clean.
Hopefully it just a mix-up with some personal meds that caused the positive result.

How is his name soiled? If they declare him innocent, I'm not holding it against him.

[The Kid 24]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

How is his name soiled? If they declare him innocent, I'm not holding it against him.

I wish the rest of MLB fans feel the same way that you do... I can see Braun getting **** from fans on every road game! I don't want that to happen to my boy!!

[Money99]

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How is his name soiled? If they declare him innocent, I'm not holding it against him.

Because there's always going to be that group of conspiracy theorists that will believe some back-room deal was brokered so that one of MLB's shining stars can continue to sparkle.
The fact that Selig owns the Brewers is the only piece of 'evidence' they'll need to put in the face of anyone who believes Braun is truly innocent.

Sad but true.

[Sportsforever]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Because there's always going to be that group of conspiracy theorists that will believe some back-room deal was brokered so that one of MLB's shining stars can continue to sparkle.
The fact that Selig owns the Brewers is the only piece of 'evidence' they'll need to put in the face of anyone who believes Braun is truly innocent.

Sad but true.

Except that Selig hasn't had any ownership of the team in nearly a decade. I also believe it would be a better PR move for baseball if they held Braun accountable, basically showing that it's not just the little guys that we go after, we will hold the MVP accountable. If he's guilty and they let him off, it doesn't help their cause imo.

[Money99]

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Except that Selig hasn't had any ownership of the team in nearly a decade. I also believe it would be a better PR move for baseball if they held Braun accountable, basically showing that it's not just the little guys that we go after, we will hold the MVP accountable. If he's guilty and they let him off, it doesn't help their cause imo.

I disagree. The league definitely does not need another star going down for PED use.
It starts to raise doubts in everyone's minds that all of them are doing it. Who else could be guilty or using some new drug that is undetectable to the current testing standards; Pujols, Bautista?.

The news of Braun failing a test was never supposed to be leaked for public consumption.
I can't help but think Selig and co. were horrified to find out when it was.

Not only that, but it creates another PR nightmare of what to do with his MVP status. Surely they can't allow a 'cheater' to keep such an illustrious award, can they? That's another PR guffaw.

Finally, while Selig hasn't technically been an owner of the Brewers for a decade, most people know he's still the owner - especially when you consider his daughter now owns the team.
If Selig retired today, I'd be my last nickel, his daughter would "sell" back the team to him tomorrow.

You might disagree with this, but there's still going to be a large contingent of fans out there that will always consider Braun a tainted star, fair or not.
On a higher scale, it'd be no different than someone you know being accused of molesting a child. All the evidence could point to not-guilty, but you know full well there'll be people in your town that will cross the street when they see him.

[Perfect Zero]

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It's going to be guilt by association for him throughout his playing career. That happens to a lot of players; whether it's justified or not I don't know. I hope that if he is guilty, he gets the suspension. If he's not guilty, and if he isn't guilty I hope that he doesn't live with a stigma for the rest of his life. All we can do is sit and wait.

[roadman]

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I disagree. The league definitely does not need another star going down for PED use.
It starts to raise doubts in everyone's minds that all of them are doing it. Who else could be guilty or using some new drug that is undetectable to the current testing standards; Pujols, Bautista?.

The news of Braun failing a test was never supposed to be leaked for public consumption.
I can't help but think Selig and co. were horrified to find out when it was.

Not only that, but it creates another PR nightmare of what to do with his MVP status. Surely they can't allow a 'cheater' to keep such an illustrious award, can they? That's another PR guffaw.

Finally, while Selig hasn't technically been an owner of the Brewers for a decade, most people know he's still the owner - especially when you consider his daughter now owns the team.
If Selig retired today, I'd be my last nickel, his daughter would "sell" back the team to him tomorrow.

You might disagree with this, but there's still going to be a large contingent of fans out there that will always consider Braun a tainted star, fair or not.
On a higher scale, it'd be no different than someone you know being accused of molesting a child. All the evidence could point to not-guilty, but you know full well there'll be people in your town that will cross the street when they see him.

Money, not sure if you have been keeping up or not, but the Brewers haven't been owned by anyone remotely close to the Selig's for several years.

Mark Antanassia(sp) and a group of investors own the team.

[ImTellinTim]

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I disagree. The league definitely does not need another star going down for PED use.
It starts to raise doubts in everyone's minds that all of them are doing it. Who else could be guilty or using some new drug that is undetectable to the current testing standards; Pujols, Bautista?.

They could make strides towards this by actually testing for all known performance enhancers. They STILL don't test for HGH at the ML level last time I checked.

[slickdtc]

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It's going to be guilt by association for him throughout his playing career. That happens to a lot of players; whether it's justified or not I don't know. I hope that if he is guilty, he gets the suspension. If he's not guilty, and if he isn't guilty I hope that he doesn't live with a stigma for the rest of his life. All we can do is sit and wait.

Yeah, casual fan saw Braun tests positives for steroids, but doesn't see Braun proven innocent of steroid use. Real fans will know.

But like Money said, there will still be conspiracy people and then the people who are just ignorant.

Shame. Information spreads so quickly these days, so when it's misinformation, that's not a good thing.

[Money99]

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Yeah, casual fan saw Braun tests positives for steroids, but doesn't see Braun proven innocent of steroid use. Real fans will know.

But like Money said, there will still be conspiracy people and then the people who are just ignorant.

Shame. Information spreads so quickly these days, so when it's misinformation, that's not a good thing.

Very true. The worst part is, when a mistake has been made, the retraction usually goes to page 12, instead of page 1 where the misinformation was first reported.

[rdub78]

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Very true. The worst part is, when a mistake has been made, the retraction usually goes to page 12, instead of page 1 where the misinformation was first reported.

Agreed but Braun is the guy that plays professional baseball and should know EVERYTHING he puts into his body.

If it was medication, there are avenues to follow to be able to get a exemption.

He ultimately has himself to blame.