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  • TheNumber35
    Just Bad at Everything
    • Jan 2012
    • 2708

    #211
    Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

    Originally posted by WatUpDoe
    what are you talking about big guy
    Read from like page 4 to page 13 or 14, The entire time is arguing with someone who thinks their team is much better than it is, and doesn't offer much evidence other than "if everyone reaches their ceiling" and what amounts to "because writers said so"

    I respect Cleveland...but I don't fear any pitcher in their rotation other than Masterson. Jimenez has been a headcase since he started the all-star game a couple years ago. Never been able to get it together since. Lowe shouldn't even in the same sentence as half the pitchers in the other rotations we've mentioned (not anymore at least.) Tomlin is an average big league arm, good pitcher but not someone I'd bank on to dominate. And Gomez is an inexperienced player (if I remember correctly), so he is a toss up game-to-game.


    As to the Cards and D-Backs rotations:

    Cards:
    1. Wainwright: Could win a Cy Young, former 20 game winner before TJ surgery
    2. Carpenter: The Cards 2nd ace. Cy young winner, dominant pitcher in the playoffs last season.
    3. Lohse: Solid Pitcher, can be very good (see Opening Day)
    4. Garcia: Promising young lefty, has been very consistent in his career thus far
    5. Westbrook: Mehhh pitcher, but I'd take his experience over Gomez's inexperience



    D-Backs:

    1. Kennedy: 20 game winner, very good pitcher, enough said.
    2. Hudson: Excellent pitcher with good stuff and control, can also hit
    3. Cahill: Good pitcher with a high ceiling (as he showed when he posted a low 3/high 2 ERA a couple years back)
    4. Saunders: Good big league pitcher, compares to Tomlin
    5. Collmenter/Bauer: Collmenter is a good pitcher but I think Bauer takes his spot soon, Bauer is electrifying and the most big league ready of all the draft guys last year and I'd take him over Gomez again.

    To recap: The 1, 2, 3 guys are better than the Indians on both teams and the 4/5 can be a wash. I'd take either of those starting 5's over the Indians in a heartbeat, and so would Indians management.
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    • WatUpDoe
      Rookie
      • Mar 2012
      • 43

      #212
      Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

      Originally posted by TheNumber35
      Read from like page 4 to page 13 or 14, The entire time is arguing with someone who thinks their team is much better than it is, and doesn't offer much evidence other than "if everyone reaches their ceiling" and what amounts to "because writers said so"

      I respect Cleveland...but I don't fear any pitcher in their rotation other than Masterson. Jimenez has been a headcase since he started the all-star game a couple years ago. Never been able to get it together since. Lowe shouldn't even in the same sentence as half the pitchers in the other rotations we've mentioned (not anymore at least.) Tomlin is an average big league arm, good pitcher but not someone I'd bank on to dominate. And Gomez is an inexperienced player (if I remember correctly), so he is a toss up game-to-game.


      As to the Cards and D-Backs rotations:

      Cards:
      1. Wainwright: Could win a Cy Young, former 20 game winner before TJ surgery
      2. Carpenter: The Cards 2nd ace. Cy young winner, dominant pitcher in the playoffs last season.
      3. Lohse: Solid Pitcher, can be very good (see Opening Day)
      4. Garcia: Promising young lefty, has been very consistent in his career thus far
      5. Westbrook: Mehhh pitcher, but I'd take his experience over Gomez's inexperience



      D-Backs:

      1. Kennedy: 20 game winner, very good pitcher, enough said.
      2. Hudson: Excellent pitcher with good stuff and control, can also hit
      3. Cahill: Good pitcher with a high ceiling (as he showed when he posted a low 3/high 2 ERA a couple years back)
      4. Saunders: Good big league pitcher, compares to Tomlin
      5. Collmenter/Bauer: Collmenter is a good pitcher but I think Bauer takes his spot soon, Bauer is electrifying and the most big league ready of all the draft guys last year and I'd take him over Gomez again.

      To recap: The 1, 2, 3 guys are better than the Indians on both teams and the 4/5 can be a wash. I'd take either of those starting 5's over the Indians in a heartbeat, and so would Indians management.
      Idk I think otherwise and i'm more of a Rays fan( due to growing up there) even though i live in Cleveland now and the Rays definitely have a better rotation than the cards and dbacks.

      I loled at the guy riding the Mariners rotation.
      Last edited by WatUpDoe; 04-08-2012, 09:08 PM.

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      • TheNumber35
        Just Bad at Everything
        • Jan 2012
        • 2708

        #213
        Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

        Originally posted by WatUpDoe
        Idk I think otherwise and i'm more of a Rays fan( due to growing up there) even though i live in Cleveland now and the Rays definitely have a better rotation than the cards and dbacks.
        I totally agree with the Rays thing, I think they have the best rotation in baseball because of that depth they have. Love that rotation
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        • WatUpDoe
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 43

          #214
          Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

          Originally posted by TheNumber35
          I totally agree with the Rays thing, I think they have the best rotation in baseball because of that depth they have. Love that rotation
          plus that rotation is young as hell.

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          • Marino
            Moderator
            • Jan 2008
            • 18113

            #215
            Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

            I'm interested to see where the Dodgers rotation is in a year or two. Now that we have money, we could go after a top guy like a Hamels or Greinke in the offseason. Plus RDLR/Zach Lee could be ready. But you never know how prospects are going to be. They can either be a Clayton Kershaw or a Darren Dreifort.

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            • OSUFan_88
              Outback Jesus
              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #216
              Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

              Cleveland may have a shot at the top ten, especially if the Rangers are really there, but let's not bring them up as the best.

              Unless Derek Lowe really pitches every outing like he did today, Ubaldo's velocity comes back and Gomez pitches well, then we can maybe talk.
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              • Dog
                aka jnes12/JNes__
                • Aug 2008
                • 11846

                #217
                Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                Phils rotation > your team's rotation

                Phils offense (probably) < your teams's OFFENSE

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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23695

                  #218
                  Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                  Originally posted by Dog
                  Phils rotation > your team's rotation

                  Phils offense (probably) < your teams's OFFENSE

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                  Have you not heard about the Mariners?
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                  • Dog
                    aka jnes12/JNes__
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 11846

                    #219
                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    Have you not heard about the Mariners?
                    Not a good as PHI right niw


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                    • dbacks_Nation
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 705

                      #220
                      Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                      Originally posted by Dog
                      Not a good as PHI right niw


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                      • Dog
                        aka jnes12/JNes__
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 11846

                        #221
                        Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                        Originally posted by dbacks_Nation
                        They won't be come 2014 when the M's WIN IT ALL!
                        I velive it is 2012 rioght now but the worlf wil end before the mariners wber havre a good picting rotatiuon dude
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                        • dbacks_Nation
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 705

                          #222
                          Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                          Originally posted by Dog
                          I velive it is 2012 rioght now but the worlf wil end before the mariners wber havre a good picting rotatiuon dude
                          Didn't read pages 4-14?
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                          • ThePhillyPhanatic
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 373

                            #223
                            Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                            Originally posted by Dog
                            Phils rotation > your team's rotation

                            Phils offense (probably) < your teams's OFFENSE

                            ROY HALLDAY CLIFF LEE
                            I agree. Even though I am a huge Phillies fan, I am gonna have to be honest saying that right now, the only feared hitters in the Phillies line-up are Hunter Pence and Carlos Ruiz (not a big name, but he's the Phillies most valuable position player by far). But when Howard and Utley get back, look out everyone... just saying.
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                            • ThePhillyPhanatic
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 373

                              #224
                              Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                              Originally posted by Dog
                              Not a good as PHI right now


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                              That's true.
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                              • ThePhillyPhanatic
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 373

                                #225
                                Re: Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

                                Originally posted by Marino
                                I'm interested to see where the Dodgers rotation is in a year or two. Now that we have money, we could go after a top guy like a Hamels or Greinke in the offseason. Plus RDLR/Zach Lee could be ready. But you never know how prospects are going to be. They can either be a Clayton Kershaw or a Darren Dreifort.
                                Hamels already hinted that he is staying with the Phillies and Grienke doesn't have what it takes to pitch in a big-market city such as LA.
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