2013 Trade Deadline Thread

[Sportsforever]

Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

I don't understand the Kennedy trade. Why would Arizona trade him and basically get nothing in return? Did I miss something and this personality driven? Is Kennedy hurt?

[SPTO]

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Norris would be a NIIICE pick up for the Buccos. It'd be nice to see the Pirates being a player in this process.

[55]

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The fact of the mater is that the closer has been one of the most valuable assets a team can posses.

How about no?

[AC]

Sounds like Tigers could go after Darren Oliver from Jays.


Would they deal Jose Alvarez for him?

Absolutely
not

The fact of the mater is that the closer has been one of the most valuable assets a team can posses.

Again, absolutely not

[royals19]

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Royals acquire Justin Maxwell from the Astros...

*Facepalm*

[CameRoN0407]

Heyman says that the Buccos tried to make a play at Trumbo. I hope they get someone good.

[k_mac]

The fact of the mater is that the closer has been one of the most valuable assets a team can posses. The A's got Josh Reddick in return for Andrew Bailey on the decline and the Rangers managed to get Mike Adams in return for two of the Rangers top 10 prospects in Robbie Erlin and Joe Wieland. If Greg Holland can put up these types of numbers then there's no reason he shouldn't fetch a better return than these guys.

Josh Reddick wasn't the Sox top prospect, and the Rangers giving up two top ten prospects isn't the same as giving up your two best prospects. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I wouldn't want my team giving up two top 100 prospects (Pederson is a fringe top 50 guy) for a relief pitcher. Especially in LA's situation. They could give up those two guys and get a real nice upgrade at 2B, and that would be much more valuable than a relief pitcher IMO.

I'm just not a big fan of giving up a ton for a reliever. Sure, Holland is putting up good numbers, but he's just a reliever.

And I'm not sold on the closer being such a valuable asset. Look at the Cubs, we signed Kevin Gregg to a minor leave deal, and for a stretch he was putting up fantastic numbers. There are a lot of guys who can come in and close games.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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All hypothetical, sure he does not have the ideal build, but if you're willing to trade for Peavy who is nearly the same size, then why knock another pitcher for the same build? As it stands now, yes the Cardinals are using him out of the bullpen and who knows if they believe he can start, but right now he's one of the top pitching prospects in baseball who is as unproven as can be, for better or for worse.

I'd love to talk more, but it's really hard for me to not come off as condescending as you were. I'm not overrating Carlos Martinez. I stated mere facts. Feel free to lump me in some group of people who've yet to provide. I highly doubt I'm even close to whatever "hype" they've been throwing out for him.

We'll see what happens, but I still view Martinez as a likely reliever. And though Peavy and Carlos Martinez are ~ the same size, Peavy has about a 10-year MLB track record on his side of being able to do what he does. Not every 6 footer who weighs 175 soak and wet can hurl 200+ IP every year--it's very demanding. Pedro Martinez is another good example of the exception rather than the rule.

The White Sox got Avisail Garcia and 3 other prospects for Peavy...how do you think that compares to Carlos Martinez alone? I think it's in the ballpark personally.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

Royals acquire Justin Maxwell from the Astros...

*Facepalm*

What's wrong with Maxwell? I think he could be a good player in this league if given the chance. He doesn't have a sparkling average but he has a good eye and a good power/speed combination. Plus he mashes left handed pitching.

[Bluejaysfan65]

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What's wrong with Maxwell? I think he could be a good player in this league if given the chance. He doesn't have a sparkling average but he has a good eye and a good power/speed combination. Plus he mashes left handed pitching.

Except for the fact that there is wayyyy more righty pitching...

[royals19]

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What's wrong with Maxwell? I think he could be a good player in this league if given the chance. He doesn't have a sparkling average but he has a good eye and a good power/speed combination. Plus he mashes left handed pitching.

They also traded Kyle Smith for him and Smith is actually a legit prospect who projected out as a great #3 guy.

[PhilliesFan13]

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Ken Rosenthal reporting on MLB Network that Bud Norris to the Orioles is pretty much a done deal. Just doing some finalizing. L.J. Hoes and another player going to Houston.

[BunnyHardaway]

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Bud Norris to Baltimore for L.J. Hoes and another piece, says Ken Rosenthal.

[CameRoN0407]

Bud Norris to Baltimore for L.J. Hoes and another piece, says Ken Rosenthal.

Was just about to post it. Called it!

[BunnyHardaway]

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A left handed minor league pitcher and a Comp B draft pick are the other two pieces, allegedly. Love the deal. Hoes can hit for average and get on base at a good rate, but has very little power and is an average fielder. His value would've been much higher had he been able to stick at 2B.