2013 Regular Season Awards

[DamnYanks2]

Re: MVP

Ummm what?

I'm joking, saying that Trout and Miggy are too good to be human basically.

[DamnYanks2]

Re: MVP

One plays half his games in the best hitters park in the league while playing a mediocre-to-poor defensive corner outfield with no added value on the bases, the other is an excellent defensive centerfielder without the aid of a hitter's paradise with tons of baserunning value as icing.

Cuddles isn't getting overlooked, he doesn't belong in the conversation.

Agreed, and I laughed at Cuddles.

[snepp]

Re: MVP

and I laughed at Cuddles.

Bit of a pet name from his time with the Twins. He's just so likeable, like a big ol' teddy bear.

[jth1331]

Re: MVP

WAR is a good stat now to be honest. And yes, Trout deserved the AL MVP award last year as much as Cabrera deserved it. What amazes me is Trout actually has a -0.8 Defensive WAR this year. Defensive WAR is a little harder to judge, as evidenced by Simmons 5.4 Defensive WAR which puts him #8 for WAR of position players. Basically, WAR is saying he's the best defensive player by far in baseball but his hitting is average at best.

I gotta give the MVP to McCutcheon in the NL this year, and in the AL Cabrera. McCutcheon for being the catalyst to turn that team around and Cabrera for being a God as the plate.

I wonder where Jose Fernandez will finish in the CY voting though to be honest. Kershaw will win definitely, just curious how many votes will go Fernandez's way for 2nd, 3rd, etc.

[1stpitchhacker]

Re: MVP

I'm joking, saying that Trout and Miggy are too good to be human basically.

Oh I see. Haha.

[1stpitchhacker]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

NL MVP - McCutchen/Carpenter/Goldschmidt (any one of 'em)
AL MVP - Cabrera/Trout
NL Cy Young - Kershaw
AL Cy Young - Scherzer/Darvish
NL ROY - Fernandez
AL ROY - Myers

[goh]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

AL - Cabrera...but it'll go to Trout because the people that vote treat it as best player instead of most valuable.

NL - McCutchen or Freeman.

[Chip Douglass]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

AL - Cabrera...but it'll go to Trout because the people that vote treat it as best player instead of most valuable.

Trout isn't going to win. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me to see Chris Davis finish ahead of him in the voting.

And "it'll go to Trout because the people that vote treat it as best player instead of most valuable" implies that a) there is a difference between being the best player in the sport and being the most valuable and b) Cabrera was more valuable than Trout, which he most certainly was not.

[55]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

This isn't who I WANT to win, but who I THINK will win:

AL MVP- Cabrera
NL MVP- McCutchen
AL Cy Young- Scherzer
NL Cy Young- Kershaw
AL RotY- Myers
NL RotY- Fernandez
AL CPotY- Rivera
NL CPotY- Liriano
AL MotY- Farrell
NL MotY- Hurdle

[1stpitchhacker]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

AL - Cabrera...but it'll go to Trout because the people that vote treat it as best player instead of most valuable.

Huh????????

[1stpitchhacker]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

NL Manager - Hurdle
AL Manager - Francona

[DrJones]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

And "it'll go to Trout because the people that vote treat it as best player instead of most valuable" implies that a) there is a difference between being the best player in the sport and being the most valuable and b) Cabrera was more valuable than Trout, which he most certainly was not.

It also implies that goh isn't familiar with the work of the BBWAA.

[pittsburgher86]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

My top 3 votes for each award:

AL MVP
(1) Miguel Cabrera - Detroit Tigers
(2) Josh Donaldson - Oakland A's
(3) Mike Trout - Los Angeles Angels

AL Cy Young
(1) Max Scherzer - Detroit Tigers
(2) Yu Darvish - Texas Rangers
(3) Anibal Sanchez - Detroit Tigers

AL Reliever of the Year
(1) Mariano Rivera - New York Yankees
(2) Tanner Scheppers - Texas Rangers
(3) Cody Allen - Cleveland Indians

AL Rookie of the Year
(1) Wil Myers - Tampa Bay Rays
(2) Jose Iglesias - Boston Redsox, Detroit Tigers
(3) Chris Archer - Tampa Bay Rays

AL Comeback Player of the Year
(1) Mariano Rivera - New York Yankees
(2) James Loney - Tampa Bay Rays
(3) Scott Kazmir - Cleveland Rays

AL Manager of the Year
(1) John Farrell - Boston Redsox
(2) Terry Francona - Cleveland Indians
(3) Bob Melvin - Oakland A's

NL MVP
(1) Andrew McCutchen - Pittsburgh Pirates
(2) Matt Carpenter - St. Louis Cardinals
(3) Paul Goldschmidt - Arizona Cardinals

NL Cy Young
(1) Clayton Kershaw - Los Angeles Dodgers
(2) Jose Fernandez - Miami Marlins
(3) Matt Harvey - New York Mets

NL Reliever of the Year
(1) Mark Melancon - Pittsburgh Pirates
(2) Craig Kimbrel - Atlanta Braves
(3) Jason Grilli - Pittsburgh Pirates

NL Rookie of the Year
(1) Jose Fernandez - Miami Marlins
(2) Yasiel Puig - Los Angeles Dodgers
(3 - Tie) Hyun-Jin Ryu - Los Angeles Dodgers
(3 - Tie) Shelby Miller - St. Louis Cardinals
(3 - Tie) Julio Teheran - Atlanta Braves

NL Comeback Player of the Year
(1) Francisco Liriano - Pittsburgh Pirates
(2) Mark Melancon - Pittsburgh Pirates
(3) Jorge De La Rosa - Colorado Rockies


NL Manager of the Year
(1) Clint Hurdle - Pittsburgh Pirates
(2) Don Mattingly - Los Angeles Dodgers
(3) Mike Matheny - St. Louis Cardinals

[55]

Re: 2013 Regular Season Awards

AL Comeback Player of the Year
(1) Mariano Rivera - New York Yankees
(2) James Loney - Tampa Bay Rays
(3) Scott Kazmir - Cleveland Rays

Cleveland Rays all the way in 2014!

[mb625]

Re: MVP

One plays half his games in the best hitters park in the league while playing a mediocre-to-poor defensive corner outfield with no added value on the bases, the other is an excellent defensive centerfielder without the aid of a hitter's paradise with tons of baserunning value as icing.

Cuddles isn't getting overlooked, he doesn't belong in the conversation.

McCutchen would get my vote, to be clear. But, you would be incorrect as far as Cuddyer's value on the basepaths. Those smarter than I have determined that Cuddy and McCutchen are worth the exact same number of runs on the basepaths: 3.

Next point, ballparks:
Cuddyer and McCutchen have very similar numbers in the way of HRs and RBIs (20/84 for Cuddy and 21/84 for McCutcheon)... now, your Coors Field argument might rear it's ugly head... until you take a look at road numbers. Nearly identical:

Cuddyer: .311 AVG, .367 OBP, .485 SLG, 9 HR, 39 RBI
McCutchen: .298 AVG, .381 OBP, .478 SLG, 12 HR, 38 RBI

Now, to be fair, when looking at OPS+ (which is adjusted by ballpark), McCutchen has a 158-137 advantage. Which is pretty significant. But with numbers that similar on the road, and numbers slightly favoring Cuddy at home, I think the argument could be made that Cuddyer would have faired just as well as McCutchen in Pittsburgh. You can't fault a guy for what park he plays in.

Now, all that having been said, if I had a vote I would go:

1. McCutchen
2. Carpenter
3. Cuddyer or Goldschmidt; leaning toward Goldschmidt

So, Cuddy wouldn't probably even be in my top three, but in my mind he's definitely there.