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[CBoller1331]

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I mean, he can play the outfield right? The only reason he is DH is because they didn't want him to pitch and play the field.

I'm sure he could pick a corner spot and be at least passable, but if he has to get TJ he still won't be able to play outfield for all of next year and likely most of 2025. Maybe he can pick up 1B like Bryce?

That still eats up 2 of his remaining "prime" years that teams were presumably going to be willing to overpay in the back half of a Mega-deal for. It's tough to make a case that a primary DH (even an elite one like Ohtani) is worth $30M+ annually

All that to say, even though this is all certainly a bit of an overreaction before we know the full scope of his injury (i.e. does he need TJ again), there's definitely a lot more questions to be answered this offseason

[reyes the roof]

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Or maybe it's a partial tear and he won't need TJ. There are other procedures out there that have shorter recover time-lines if that is the case

I’d actually be more reluctant to give him big money if he has a non TJ procedure. I feel like his arm will be a time bomb and it’s just delaying an inevitable TJ surgery

[CBoller1331]

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I’d actually be more reluctant to give him big money if he has a non TJ procedure. I feel like his arm will be a time bomb and it’s just delaying an inevitable TJ surgery

Yeah those are less proven, but I think Tanaka got a PRP injection for a partial tear and didn't need to get TJ.

There's also a newer procedure they can do for partial tears where they can implant a collagen "brace" around a partially torn ligament instead of replacing it with one from your wrist/knee (which I believe is what TJ is). I actually had that procedure done when I tore my UCL in college and only missed 1 season instead of 2 because of it. I want to say Rick Ankiel had that surgery as well when he was trying to make his comeback as a pitcher a few years ago. Doesn't have the track record of succes as Tommy John but it nearly cuts recovery time in half

[Sportsforever]

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Stat of the day: there is only one player in baseball history with at least one stolen base without being caught in 10 seasons.

That player…Greg Maddux.


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[reyes the roof]

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How to **** up your pending free agency in one night

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1698747733987803274?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Majingir]

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Ohtani likely getting TJS, does that mean he's gone for the 2024 season?

I wonder how this would impact his free agency. When he comes back, you don't know how he will be. Does he continue being a SP, a reliever, just a hitter?

Either way, Angels not trading Ohtani at the deadline could go down in history as the worst "non trade" ever. Especially when you know in a few years we'll hear reports about Angels turning down deals for prospects who in 5-10 years from now, there's bound to be rejected offers for guys who became stars.

[countryboy]

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Ohtani likely getting TJS, does that mean he's gone for the 2024 season?

No...Bryce Harper had TJS in November of 2022 and returned in May of 2023 as a DH.

I wouldn't expect Ohtani to pitch next year if he does indeed get TJS, but there's no reason to believe he couldn't return to the lineup as a DH at some point in the 2024 season.

[kehlis]

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Either way, Angels not trading Ohtani at the deadline could go down in history as the worst "non trade" ever. Especially when you know in a few years we'll hear reports about Angels turning down deals for prospects who in 5-10 years from now, there's bound to be rejected offers for guys who became stars.

It's more than possible I'm out of the loop but do we even know if the Angels received a realistic offer?

No team would give up would it would take to get him without the guarantee of him re-signing with that team and from what I read it didn't seem like he was willing to make that guarantee.

[steelerfan]

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All I know is that I want no part of Ohtani and the anchor that is likely to be his contract.

Great guy and a phenomenal player who is easy to root for. I wish him the best, and I'll be rooting for him, but I don't want any part of that contract. No thanks, hard pass.

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[l3ulvl]

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All I know is that I want no part of Ohtani and the anchor that is likely to be his contract.

Great guy and a phenomenal player who is easy to root for. I wish him the best, and I'll be rooting for him, but I don't want any part of that contract. No thanks, hard pass.

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It would be cool to have him, but, when's the last time an astronomical baseball contract worked out?


(and yeah, I say this as a Tigers fan finally at the end of the Cabrera contact)

[DrJones]

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It would be cool to have him, but, when's the last time an astronomical baseball contract worked out?

One could argue that, based on (regular season) production, the 1st 7 years (2001-07) of A-Rod's megadeal with Texas provided good value to both the Rangers and Yankees. The subsequent 10-year contract he signed with the Yankees after opting out? Not so much.

[Blzer]

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I always argued during the Giants' down years after Bonds was "forced out," that if they resigned him they would've made all that money back and then some by attendance and merchandising alone.

If your team signs Ohtani, you're getting guaranteed sellouts every time that he pitches (whenever that happens again), and of course everyone is buying his merch as well. Is it $500 million worth of returns? No, but you need to weigh everything in that you can. He comes with bonuses that no other player can, including possible playoff hopes.

The Angels are just cursed, is all. Much like the Mets. And it's hilarious.

[Majingir]

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I always argued during the Giants' down years after Bonds was "forced out," that if they resigned him they would've made all that money back and then some by attendance and merchandising alone.

If your team signs Ohtani, you're getting guaranteed sellouts every time that he pitches (whenever that happens again), and of course everyone is buying his merch as well. Is it $500 million worth of returns? No, but you need to weigh everything in that you can. He comes with bonuses that no other player can, including possible playoff hopes.

The Angels are just cursed, is all. Much like the Mets. And it's hilarious.

One reason I do wonder how much interest Jays would have.

Unlike the US teams, their games are on the network owned by the same company who owns the team. So instead of losing local games due to Fox or whoever getting them, you might boost your own viewers and get more advertising money in on your own network.

[Majingir]

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https://twitter.com/BSmile/status/1699033334733553985?t=MWQltncDxlRYK-BldkbT6w&s=19

It's weird to think how/where Babe Ruth hit his first pro HR.

That place obviously no longer exists, but it's weird to imagine a baseball field on an island with an amusement park. That's Create a Stadium level of cool.

[Speedy]

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One of the less talked about World Series is 1992.

Game 1 - ATL wins
Game 2 - TOR scores 2 in the top 9th to win
Game 3 - TOR scores 1 in the bottom 8th to tie, 1 in the bottom 9th to win
Game 4 - TOR wins by 1 run (ATL threat in the 8th stopped)
Game 5 - ATL wins
Game 6 - ATL ties in the bottom 9th, TOR scores 2 in top 11th, ATL scores 1 in bottom 11th but loses

1991 WS felt like it was really back/forth but ATL was better all around. It's one of the few 6-game WS where the winning team was outscored in the series.