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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42509

    #3286
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
    It's not that hard to imagine, as Stanton is only 175 away from that.
    I'm not laughing at you or your logic, I'm laughing at how ridiculous this sentence sounds.

    I wish I could make 1% of that in my lifetime!
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    • Speedy
      #Ace
      • Apr 2008
      • 16143

      #3287
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I'm not laughing at you or your logic, I'm laughing at how ridiculous this sentence sounds.
      Literally about to say the same thing until I scrolled down and saw your post.
      Originally posted by Gibson88
      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23663

        #3288
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Harper and Kris Bryant received keys to the city in Las Vegas.
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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #3289
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by TripleCrown9
          Harper and Kris Bryant received keys to the city in Las Vegas.
          And that's the sound of Pete Rose losing another bet. He was betting that Harper would get it first.
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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12694

            #3290
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Speedy
            Terrible decision.
            Agreed. I was really looking forward to seeing real grass at the Skydome (that's what I'll always call it).

            Hopefully this is still a possibility for the 2017 season.

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #3291
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Money99
              Agreed. I was really looking forward to seeing real grass at the Skydome (that's what I'll always call it).

              Hopefully this is still a possibility for the 2017 season.
              Dirt infield confirmed for next season. They're also looking at fortifying the concrete on the dome and replacing the scoreboard. (I'm guessing they mean the Jumbotron) Grass is still on the table but doesn't seem to be the #1 priority right now.
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              • Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12694

                #3292
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by SPTO
                Dirt infield confirmed for next season. They're also looking at fortifying the concrete on the dome and replacing the scoreboard. (I'm guessing they mean the Jumbotron) Grass is still on the table but doesn't seem to be the #1 priority right now.
                Just read that the University of Guelph is researching whether or not if grass if feasible:
                The Toronto Blue Jays are planning to have a dirt infield at the Rogers Centre for the start of the 2016 season, according to John Lott of the National Post.


                I'm glad they're at least doing the dirt infield, but I really hope they go full grass soon.
                Artificial turf and baseball do not mix, IMO. Its like an NHL team putting in that skateable plastic crap.

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                • Speedy
                  #Ace
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 16143

                  #3293
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Research further into that, Money.

                  Toronto is paying them $600K to look into it.

                  Quite a contract for the university, I'd say.
                  Originally posted by Gibson88
                  Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                  It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #3294
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    I'm pretty sure there's been stuff put out there that's said that Guelph stuff was just fluff and that they haven't actually made any progress whatsoever.

                    Beeston promised grass, AA promised Price, and neither had to stick around to see the consequences of either not happening, and stuck the responsibility on Shapiro. Pretty ****ty.
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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #3295
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by AC
                      I'm pretty sure there's been stuff put out there that's said that Guelph stuff was just fluff and that they haven't actually made any progress whatsoever.

                      Beeston promised grass, AA promised Price, and neither had to stick around to see the consequences of either not happening, and stuck the responsibility on Shapiro. Pretty ****ty.
                      LOL...stop it, man. AA isn't around directly BECAUSE of Shapiro.
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                      • TripleCrown9
                        Keep the Faith
                        • May 2010
                        • 23663

                        #3296
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        The Red Sox are retiring Wade Boggs' number in May.

                        About time.
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                        • AC
                          Win the East
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14951

                          #3297
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Sportsforever
                          LOL...stop it, man. AA isn't around directly BECAUSE of Shapiro.
                          No, Anthopoulos is no longer around because his ego was far too large to have a standard president-executive relationship. Do you think Hoyer doesn't get Theo's approval on every move? Zaidi and Friedman? Forst and Beane?

                          His relationship with Beeston was so atypical of the industry norms today, as people who follow the Jays day to day probably realize. He wanted to continue that style of relationship, but there aren't many front offices with that kind of situation.



                          He rejected a 5 year extension because he wasn't willing to work under a high position as is the norm in the industry. If he's unwilling to work as a GM, fine, but that doesn't mean the Jays should be willing to bend and give more power to someone who doesn't deserve it. It's not Shapiro's fault Anthopoulos is a special snowflake.

                          I'm sure he'll get his full autonomy as president of Miami or whatever.
                          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                          • Sportsforever
                            NL MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 20368

                            #3298
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by AC
                            No, Anthopoulos is no longer around because his ego was far too large to have a standard president-executive relationship. Do you think Hoyer doesn't get Theo's approval on every move? Zaidi and Friedman? Forst and Beane?

                            His relationship with Beeston was so atypical of the industry norms today, as people who follow the Jays day to day probably realize. He wanted to continue that style of relationship, but there aren't many front offices with that kind of situation.



                            He rejected a 5 year extension because he wasn't willing to work under a high position as is the norm in the industry. If he's unwilling to work as a GM, fine, but that doesn't mean the Jays should be willing to bend and give more power to someone who doesn't deserve it. It's not Shapiro's fault Anthopoulos is a special snowflake.

                            I'm sure he'll get his full autonomy as president of Miami or whatever.
                            You and I both know that Shapiro and AA weren't going to get along, period. This wasn't about AA wanting a special relationship as much as it was realizing the organization was moving in a different direction (this has been re-hashed on these very boards). AA was applauded when he got Price, he was applauded when he said they would go after Price in FA, and now you act like he left Shapiro with a tough situation? Please...Shapiro knew what he was getting into, which is exactly why AA left (he knew what he'd be getting into).
                            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #3299
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Sportsforever
                              You and I both know that Shapiro and AA weren't going to get along, period. This wasn't about AA wanting a special relationship as much as it was realizing the organization was moving in a different direction (this has been re-hashed on these very boards). AA was applauded when he got Price, he was applauded when he said they would go after Price in FA, and now you act like he left Shapiro with a tough situation? Please...Shapiro knew what he was getting into, which is exactly why AA left (he knew what he'd be getting into).
                              Of course they weren't going to get along.. because of Anthopoulos' ego, as I stated above.

                              Anyway, obviously Shapiro knew what he was getting into, I was literally just saying it's a damn tough situation. Good on him for welcoming a challenge I guess. If it's been rehashed at length (I'll take your word, I don't keep too close an eye anymore), I won't waste any further thread space making points that have probably been made already.
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                              • Master Live 013
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 12327

                                #3300
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                I don't know if it was ego, but I see as entirely legitimate for Alex Anthopoulos wanting to leave if his responsibilities were to change under Mark Shapiro.

                                Anthopoulos had final decision making ability as General Manager under Beeston.

                                This isn't comparable to Zaidi/Friedman or Frost/Beane since neither Zaidi or Frost ever held final decision making power in he first place.

                                Hoyer held decision making power in San Diego but he readily knew he wouldn't have that power in Chicago when he took the GM job, so again, that's different from what happened in Toronto.

                                What we are seeing through out the league is the so called "title inflation", GM's with decision making power taking that power up to the "President/Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations" role and hiring GM's which effectively serve as assistant GM's.

                                • Billy Beane was the GM and now is Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations.
                                • Andrew Friedman is President of Baseball Operations.
                                • Theo Epstein is President of Baseball Operations.
                                • Kenny Williams is another former GM which retains final say as Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations.

                                Since Beeston was on its way out it was inevitable some change was due; Anthopoulus probably thought he was going to go the President of Baseball Operations route and hiring a GM to work under him while retaining final say and the Blue Jays saw it differently.



                                When Anthopoulus understood that he was basically receiving a demotion (regarding decision making if not the title) then he wanted out.



                                Perfectly reasonable reaction in my opinion.
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