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[kehlis]

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No thanks to scheduled double headers or expansion.

[Majingir]

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If they want to reduce the amount of games played, they should do it in a way which gives teams 1 day off every 7-10 days. The way the current schedule is, some teams play like 2-3 weeks straight with no days off, and then randomly have some stretch where they have 2 days off in a 4 day timespan.

And for interleague, why not have "home and home" series? Even if it's a 4 game series(meaning 2 played in one city,2 in the other), that still wouldn't be a horrible idea.

There's 25 weeks in the season approximately(not including ASW),meaning about 175 days. If they reduced the schedule to something like 150 games, that'd allow teams to have a day off every week on average(barring makeup dates).

As for expansion, like MLB keeps on saying, the A's/Rays situation needs to be resolved first.

[SPTO]

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No thanks to scheduled double headers or expansion.

No to expansion IMO but I wouldn't mind scheduled day/night doubleheaders. That could be fun for people going to the ballpark and making a whole day of it. They could hold a concert or have events between games.

[kehlis]

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No to expansion IMO but I wouldn't mind scheduled day/night doubleheaders. That could be fun for people going to the ballpark and making a whole day of it. They could hold a concert or have events between games.

People are complaining about 3 hour games being too long.

May not apply to the masses here but I don't think there is a loud audience of people who want to spend all day at the park.

I loved it as a kid with nothing to do but when I was in college they sucked. That is a long day playing, I have even less desire to watch 2 games in a day.

[Majingir]

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No to expansion IMO but I wouldn't mind scheduled day/night doubleheaders. That could be fun for people going to the ballpark and making a whole day of it. They could hold a concert or have events between games.

It'd only work for weekends of course, but maybe even have a special doubleheader deal. You could buy tickets for both games and get a discount, or just buy for one.

But that'd be a long day for sure. Big fans might love it, but casuals won't. Arriving at around 12:30pm for game 1, and by time game 2 is over, it's 10pm? That's a long time spending in one location.

[Jr.]

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People are complaining about 3 hour games being too long.

May not apply to the masses here but I don't think there is a loud audience of people who want to spend all day at the park.

I loved it as a kid with nothing to do but when I was in college they sucked. That is a long day playing, I have even less desire to watch 2 games in a day.

Double headers are the worst. There is no reason to schedule them at the MLB level.

[redsox4evur]

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People are complaining about 3 hour games being too long.

May not apply to the masses here but I don't think there is a loud audience of people who want to spend all day at the park.

I loved it as a kid with nothing to do but when I was in college they sucked. That is a long day playing, I have even less desire to watch 2 games in a day.

Yea I went to some college baseball double headers and for me that was a long day. I was there from 12:30 until 8:30 or so. Most casual fans will probably leave in between games or by the 7th inning of the 2nd game at the latest. That is just too long of a day. Let's say somehow you get lucky and the each game goes 3 hours that's 6 hours plus the wait in between, downtime. That's around 7-7:30 at the ballpark.


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[Majingir]

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Yea I went to some college baseball double headers and for me that was a long day. I was there from 12:30 until 8:30 or so. Most casual fans will probably leave in between games or by the 7th inning of the 2nd game at the latest. That is just too long of a day. Let's say somehow you get lucky and the each game goes 3 hours that's 6 hours plus the wait in between, downtime. That's around 7-7:30 at the ballpark.


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2nd game? I see people leaving in 7th inning in a regular 9 inning game. Doubleheader, they'd leave before gm1 is done. Some people just don't care about staying for an entire game,regardless of the sport. Whether the reason is that they want to beat traffic, don't care to see entire game, have to go somewhere else, or some other reason.

That's always a pet peeve of mine, people leaving a game,specifically if it's close, early. Especially when those people are in/Infront of your row. Close game, middle of play, and people are just like "this is a great time to leave, let's just get up and block people's view during an important moment in the game, while I just get my things and leave"

[DieHardYankee26]

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Doesn't bother me when people leave early, I dont do it but there could be circumstances that require it, none of my business really.

It also opens up seats closer to the field so that's a plus. I think it bugs me more when people show up late. Like you're sitting there and someone rolls up in the 3rd inning. Like dude, you didn't realize the game started at 1? Same as before with possible circumstances though, may have had to put their baby to sleep or something you know? It's just too much for me to get upset without knowing what's happening. Does make you wonder though

[Majingir]

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Doesn't bother me when people leave early, I dont do it but there could be circumstances that require it, none of my business really.

It also opens up seats closer to the field so that's a plus. I think it bugs me more when people show up late. Like you're sitting there and someone rolls up in the 3rd inning. Like dude, you didn't realize the game started at 1? Same as before with possible circumstances though, may have had to put their baby to sleep or something you know? It's just too much for me to get upset without knowing what's happening. Does make you wonder though

Same can really be said about about life in general lol. You never know why someone says/does certain thing,cause you don't know the circumstances they're dealing with.

Back on topic...
Arriving late definitely is annoying too. I went to a game a few months back and half my row(they didn't come together/knew each other) came late. I got up like a dozen times at least in an hour or so timespan. I know the ushers only allow people to enter during breaks in play, but by time the people get to you, play resumes, and you miss a play cause you had 3-4 people in your way entering the aisle.

[CMH]

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I could see it working in outside locals like a Vegas weekend or in Japan.

The tickets will buy themselves. But in most MLB cities, fans won't do it and teams would lose out on money.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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No thanks to scheduled double headers.

Thank the maker Mr. Cub never said that.
No one says you have to watch both games, just catch one of them. It's a special day where endurance factors in heavily to the game. I doubt the majority of fans go to a Wednesday game, then turn around & go right back to the Thursday game as well.

No thanks to expansion.

Expansion is inevitable.
With the first expansion in 1961, the previous longest length between expansions was 15 years (1977-1993), with the expansion of Toronto & Seattle, then Colorado & Florida. It has now been 18 years since the expansion of Tampa & Arizona. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. You want to deny two more fine cities the joy & heartache of having their own major league team?

[Speedy]

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I'm not a fan of double-headers.

I am a fan of shortening the season...hopefully, that means expanded playoff series, which I've advocated in the past (both WC teams play a best of 3 with no rest in between, the division series is a best of 5 and the LCS/WS is a best of 7).

I also think they could make the ASG week have no games...possibly move it around where the festivities are on a Saturday and the ASG is on Sunday. In addition, I'd like the HOF ceremony moved to that week also to where it's before the ASG stuff starts. Really make it a week/time all about baseball.

As far as expansion...the NHL did even though barely any of their teams seem to be reporting any profit. I wouldn't doubt baseball would try to expand further - although they should try to move Tampa before doing anything else.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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No thanks to scheduled double headers or expansion.

Totally agree on the scheduled doubleheaders. I see them as a last resort, not something you actually plan on in advance. Nobody has time for 6-8 hours of baseball per day, especially not the players.

As for expansion, I wouldn't mind seeing the league go to 32 teams by bringing back the Montreal Expos and trying out a franchise in Mexico (Mexico City or Monterrey is probably the better option). Monterrey has a lower population (1.1 million), but is also more middle class than Mexico City (lots of potential sponsors) and is also closer to Texas and the border. In fact, Monterrey is closer to Dallas than it is to Mexico City. Monterrey is at 6,000 feet lower altitude than Mexico City, which would make it play mostly like a traditional ballpark (no humidor needed). A series between, say, the Texas Rangers and the 'Monterrey Queso' wouldn't be much travel at all. Some problems with a Mexican team include: (1) security and (2) border/immigration issues with fans travelling back and forth.

32 teams would allow for divisional restructuring and the elimination of interleague play/unbalanced schedule. Both of which I would like gone. Expansion is inevitable if baseball's revenues keep growing, but becomes more likely in the 5-10 years from now window than immediately. In the meantime, the A's and Rays can hopefully relocate/get new parks within their own regions like what happened with the Braves.

[Speedy]

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As for expansion, I wouldn't mind seeing the league go to 32 teams by bringing back the Montreal Expos and trying out a franchise in Mexico (Mexico City or Monterrey is probably the better option). Monterrey has a lower population (1.1 million), but is also more middle class than Mexico City (lots of potential sponsors) and is also closer to Texas and the border. In fact, Monterrey is closer to Dallas than it is to Mexico City. Monterrey is at 6,000 feet lower altitude than Mexico City, which would make it play mostly like a traditional ballpark (no humidor needed). A series between, say, the Texas Rangers and the 'Monterrey Queso' wouldn't be much travel at all. Some problems with a Mexican team include: (1) security and (2) border/immigration issues with fans travelling back and forth.

32 teams would allow for divisional restructuring and the elimination of interleague play/unbalanced schedule. Both of which I would like gone. Expansion is inevitable if baseball's revenues keep growing, but becomes more likely in the 5-10 years from now window than immediately. In the meantime, the A's and Rays can hopefully relocate/get new parks within their own regions like what happened with the Braves.

I don't think there is any hope for Tampa; if they have a winning team that goes to the WS and a continual division contender (when Maddon was there), yet they still cannot pack the place out, there is no hope. Regardless if they build a new stadium, I just don't see it.

Your point about a team in Mexico is intriguing and would certainly be a first in US sports with a team in Mexico. One sticking point in my mind though is whether the revenue from ticket sales/concessions that would be in pesos can offset player salaries based which are USD. NHL franchises in Canada are facing difficulties with the declining Canadian dollar so an MLB franchise in Mexico would have to be able to make a sizable profit, in case of a declining market.