MLB Off-Topic

[Blzer]

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Speaking of which, Mark Buehrle is proof of how much time pitchers waste. His games ended in under 2.5hrs on many nights, cause he never wastes any time. Just one pitcher of the two sides not wasting time shortens game lengths that much, can you imagine how quick games would go if both sides did that?

Same with pitchers like Johnny Cueto and Mike Leake (problem with Leake these days is he can't end innings quickly, if you know what I mean).

The exact opposite end is Jorge De La Rosa. Holy moly would I hate to play center field with him pitching...

[CBoller1331]

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Everyone keep on saying Chris Sale is tired of losing. Cheez I am a Braves fan and our star player Freddie Freeman isn't cutting up throwback jersey's and being a malcontent to the front office.
The White Sox were leading the central the first quarter of the season by the way. There's nothing like being a sore loser..

Pitchers are a different breed.

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy"
--Nolan Ryan

Im not condoning Sale's behavior, just trying to possibly explain it

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Just in case you're wondering how Mookie Betts comps to previous Mookies...


<iframe src="http://www.fangraphs.com/graphframe.aspx?config=0&static=0&type=comparison& num=3&h=640&w=640&position=OF&page=8&players=13611 ,1014096" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="640" width = "640" style="border:1px solid black;"></iframe><br /><span style="font-size:9pt;">Source: <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/comparison.aspx?playerid=13611&position=OF&page=8& players=1014096">FanGraphs</a> -- <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=13611&position=OF">Mookie Betts</a>, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1014096&position=OF">Mookie Wilson</a></span>


Looks like Betts has a nice head start.

[l3ulvl]

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Sale has to have huge cojones to pull a stunt like that....

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I actually read it differently, his cojones aren't functioning properly

[redsox4evur]

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Sale speaks out.

http://es.pn/2aqHQqg

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[Blzer]

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Sale speaks out.
http://es.pn/2aqHQqg

Doesn't sound much like an apology.

[CMH]

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I wonder how Sale hopes to make a lot of money next year if teams were to stop focusing on the business aspect of the game.

[Money99]

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My apologies if this has already been discussed here:
Report: Reducing MLB season to 154 games has 'gained momentum'

Sounds like this will be something the PA is going to heavily pursue in the next CBA - which expires December 1st.

[SPTO]

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I wonder how Sale hopes to make a lot of money next year if teams were to stop focusing on the business aspect of the game.

How is he supposed to "make more money" next year when he's still under team control on a very cheap deal. Does he have an opt out clause or something?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I wonder how Sale hopes to make a lot of money next year if teams were to stop focusing on the business aspect of the game.

How is he supposed to "make more money" next year when he's still under team control on a very cheap deal. Does he have an opt out clause or something?

I don't think you interpreted the original comment quite right. He didn't say "more money." He said "a lot of money."

He's not saying that Sale's salary next year is floating and directly tied to revenue this year. What he's saying is the fact that a $12MM yearly salary is even considered "very cheap" is largely due to progress MLB has made in marketing/selling its product and hence generating revenue that creates an environment that can pay out enormous wages. The business side of the game (and the MLBPA's fights against collusion/reserve clause etc..) has given Sale the means to be a millionaire.

It might be silly for the club to deny a uniform request of their ace pitcher, but it's equally naive to think that business and winning are not related to one another. In that way, Sale is showing that he's a bit of a meathead quite frankly (and especially in the way he went about it).

[SPTO]

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I don't think you interpreted the original comment quite right. He didn't say "more money." He said "a lot of money."

He's not saying that Sale's salary next year is floating and directly tied to revenue this year. What he's saying is the fact that a $12MM yearly salary is even considered "very cheap" is largely due to progress MLB has made in marketing/selling its product and hence generating revenue that creates an environment that can pay out enormous wages. The business side of the game (and the MLBPA's fights against collusion/reserve clause etc..) has given Sale the means to be a millionaire.

It might be silly for the club to deny a uniform request of their ace pitcher, but it's equally naive to think that business and winning are not related to one another. In that way, Sale is showing that he's a bit of a meathead quite frankly (and especially in the way he went about it).

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I think I did misread the comment a bit and I agree with you totally about Sale.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Reading Ben Linbergh's article today on The Ringer about A-Rod and Ortiz...

It really is crazy the fork they took. The one thing that I'll never get over is A-Rod admitting to the failed 03 test, had no reason to in retrospect, I think his PR people screwed up there. We still dont have the damn list, he should've just acted pissed off and like it wasn't possible, maybe people would have looked the other way like Ortiz. The way they're perceived now is hilarious to me. I just want the whole era where steroids existed to be erased from my mind.

[Money99]

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Reading Ben Linbergh's article today on The Ringer about A-Rod and Ortiz...

It really is crazy the fork they took. The one thing that I'll never get over is A-Rod admitting to the failed 03 test, had no reason to in retrospect, I think his PR people screwed up there. We still dont have the damn list, he should've just acted pissed off and like it wasn't possible, maybe people would have looked the other way like Ortiz. The way they're perceived now is hilarious to me. I just want the whole era where steroids existed to be erased from my mind.

I liken this to the conversation that took place in Pulp Fiction between Samuel Jackson and John Travolta when discussing eating pork.
"It better be one charmin' bleeping pig..".

If people like the person who took PEDs they give them a pass. If they're an ahole like A-Rod, they're strung up by their ears.

Ortiz seems like a cool guy, but I loathe any ball player who's been associated with PEDs.
I wouldn't be shocked if he's on them right now.
MLB's testing has gotten better and its punishments more severe, but it still seems to easy for cheaters to dodge the system.
A-Rod was on roids for the entire 2015 season and still passed every test.
If not for a disgruntled Bosch investor, nobody would have known he was on the juice.

EDIT: Link to Lindbergh's article:

https://theringer.com/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-career-paths-57bb828239db#.tq5mel3sr

[CMH]

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How is he supposed to "make more money" next year when he's still under team control on a very cheap deal. Does he have an opt out clause or something?

Not to continue on this because the answer was given but I was definitely vague with my comment.

I wanted the open endedness of when and how he will get paid. Whether it's his current contract, new contract, or prior contracts.

The end point being, Sale gets paid because of business and to act as if it doesn't matter to the team (or himself) is beyond silly in his part.

[Blzer]

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Interesting numbers on Heyward:

• According to Inside Edge, Heyward’s 22.9 percent line-drive percentage this season is the highest of his career. Baseball Reference has it even higher, at 27 percent.
  
• According to ESPN Stats and Information, Heyward is hitting .563 when he hits a line drive, a career low, and 156th out of 159 qualified hitters. For comparison, last year he hit .686 on line drives, a previous career low.
  
• Heyward’s batting average on balls in play is just .273. That ranks 135th in baseball. The league average is .311.

Talk about an unlucky hitter. Now I know, he's still swinging at some pitches he shouldn't be, pulling some pitches he shouldn't be, fouling off pitches he shouldn't be, and his swing is long and sucks. Thankfully it's flat, but he's also just not hitting the ball out either. Even still, these numbers are pretty telling as well... though I'm willing to bet his speed-off-bat numbers are lower on average this year as well.