MLB Off-Topic

[SPTO]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

Russell Martin's not a big fan of the new IBB rule and the whole speeding up the game ideas. He sounds like Matrix actually LOL


A couple quotes (you can read the full article via the link)

"By no means are intentional walks automatic, until now. Now they are. So they’re speeding up the game," said Martin. "My thing is, if they really want to speed up the game, then when a guy hits a home run, to speed up the game should a guy, just like in softball, when he hits it, should he just walk to the dugout? It’d be quicker. I’m just wondering, at what point do we just keep the game, the game? Or, how about this calculation: take all the intentional walks that were made in the last couple years and calculate – or maybe just ask to see if they have that information, to see if they really did their homework. Is it really that important to speed up the game (with this rule)? Because how many games did we play last year where we didn't have one intentional walk? That’s something I’d like to know."

It’s called getting your bullpen ready so the guy doesn’t blow out his arm on the mound," said Martin. "‘Speed up the game, speed up the game.’ How about we just give guys – the human being – time to warm up on the mound after maybe something’s happened in the game? I’m not a manager, but I’m just trying to put myself in the position of a manager. OK, we’re up by one run or two runs and our bullpen’s been taxed and we’re trying to save their arms, and then the other team walks, ball gets away, guy gets to second base. When the coach visits the mound to talk to his player, it’s not like the player necessarily needs somebody to talk to him.

"It’s because the guy (in the bullpen) needs time to warm up, man. It’s the same thing when you throw over to first base, like, eight times in a row. It’s not like we’re trying to keep the guy close. The guy maybe has two stolen bases in 18 years. It’s because the guy needs time to warm up. At what point does that become a problem with guys warming up in the bullpen? Sometimes it’s just strategy to give guys a little bit of time to warm up."

[Majingir]

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That's how you do it Majingir. You flood the media with big names, Trout, Harper, Sanchez, Bryant, Betts. and yes you unfortunately cater to the big markets.

That's what the nba does so well. They flood you with James Harden, Russel Westbrook, Kyrie, etc.. especially the footlocker commercials are genius.

And of course it helps with the nba, they have the massive shoe crowd.

I'm not sure anyone will ever line up to buy Bryce Harper and Manny Machado cleats. But they've got to start pushing these players hard, that they are cool, and you want to wear their gear.

Plenty of kids don't watch Rockets games religiously but they do know Harden well, and they will watch. NBA markets their players so well, and then there's the MLB lol.





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Ya,and like I said, NHL starting to do it too, at least in Canada. Matthew,Laine,McDavid getting hyped up like crazy,even those guys think it's ridiculous, but it needs to happen. You need to have faces of the league,and certain guys known so much.

There's many big name players from past eras I don't even know what team they played for among all leagues, but at least I know of them. For modern and future fans, you have to make names today mean something.

NBA big names like Kobe,LeBron,curry,Durant,Iverson,Shaq and many more the past 15 years alone. NFL markets their QB so much too. MLB, to me at least I find people often hear about teams like Yankees more than players like Cabrera,Kershaw,Harper.

[redsox4evur]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

Yeah they've been guilty of taking their fan base for granted for years and years now. They just assume that because of all the tradition, and families passing the sport down for generations, that they'll be fine. The social media era/generation has been a bit of a swing and miss for them. (*crickets*)

Yep this is exactly how I feel as well. Kids these days don't have the patience or attention span to wait 30-40 seconds before seeing little action for nearly 3 hours upwards of 5-6 times a week. Thats why they need to move forward with implementing changes to get the games back down to the 2:30 game time that they used to have.


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[DamnYanks2]

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Ya,and like I said, NHL starting to do it too, at least in Canada. Matthew,Laine,McDavid getting hyped up like crazy,even those guys think it's ridiculous, but it needs to happen. You need to have faces of the league,and certain guys known so much.

There's many big name players from past eras I don't even know what team they played for among all leagues, but at least I know of them. For modern and future fans, you have to make names today mean something.

NBA big names like Kobe,LeBron,curry,Durant,Iverson,Shaq and many more the past 15 years alone. NFL markets their QB so much too. MLB, to me at least I find people often hear about teams like Yankees more than players like Cabrera,Kershaw,Harper.

Exactly for purists like us we don't need any of that fluff. But for the casuals and newcomers, they have to have a push.

I'd love the world to learn about Nolan Arenado, Corey Kluber, Giancarlo Stanton etc... But I don't see it happening.

And I think baseball has one more serious flaw, that many people just have shorter attention spans in the U.S

You can turn on a football game, or basketball game, and get instant gratification. You can't do that with baseball.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Yep this is exactly how I feel as well. Kids these days don't have the patience or attention span to wait 30-40 seconds before seeing little action for nearly 3 hours upwards of 5-6 times a week. Thats why they need to move forward with implementing changes to get the games back down to the 2:30 game time that they used to have.


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We just need to show every pitch two extra times, once from a different angle and once in slow motion like the NFL to convince people they aren't doing that already [emoji38]

[kehlis]

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I don't think there is anything wrong with pace of the game.

I just think it's bad parenting for not teaching the next generation about the intricacies of the game.

It's their loss, don't punish me.

[TheMatrix31]

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MLB isn't "popular" because media outlets which people rely on for sports coverage treat it as a joke instead of something awesome.

Simple as that. No other explanations needed.

[DamnYanks2]

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We just need to show every pitch two extra times, once from a different angle and once in slow motion like the NFL to convince people they aren't doing that already [emoji38]

Then we need the John Madden of baseball.

"If you want to win, you have to score runs".

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[Money99]

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You can turn on a football game, or basketball game, and get instant gratification. You can't do that with baseball.

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Bingo.
Not only that, but chances of seeing a star player put-up his average stats in a game are much higher in those sports than baseball, where an 0-3 is more likely than a 3-3 with a HR.

People today want to see YouTube highlights every time they go to the stadium.



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[DamnYanks2]

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Bingo.
Not only that, but chances of seeing a star player put-up his average stats in a game are much higher in those sports than baseball, where an 0-3 is more likely than a 3-3 with a HR.

People today want to see YouTube highlights every time they go to the stadium.



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Time to bring back steroids! Sadly though, that really did get casual fans and newcomers interested.

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[Sportsforever]

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I actually thought the IBB thing had been approved last year, so my outrage over it already passed last year. That said, I'd rather see the IBB actually removed. You want to walk the guy, fine...but the catcher must remain in his crouch behind the plate.

It puts a risk/reward aspect to it...you pitch around the guy hoping he won't beat you as you try and put him on, but maybe you make a mistake and he crushes it. Or maybe you are trying to put a guy on and he's expanding his zone and gets himself out. That is much more entertaining than what they are implementing...

[TheMatrix31]

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Bingo.
Not only that, but chances of seeing a star player put-up his average stats in a game are much higher in those sports than baseball, where an 0-3 is more likely than a 3-3 with a HR.

People today want to see YouTube highlights every time they go to the stadium.



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That's when you tell them baseball doesn't quite work that way, but here's some players that are doing all-time level things and that your chances of seeing ridiculous have never been higher given the talent around the league right now.

Then you explain to them why it's beautiful that baseball doesn't work that way. They watch some of those acclaimed TV shows for the story, right? Baseball is a story too. The action is in the details.

If they tell you they're not interested, then perhaps the sport isn't for them. In that case, no amount of pace of play changes or anything like that will get them to change their mind.

Address the premise. Always.

[DamnYanks2]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

Baseball has alot of things that work against it with the general public.

162 game season's water down the meaning of individual games. Nobody is lining up at local sports bars to watch the full slate of MLB games that day.

Nba neither. But the NFL, Sunday's especially are huge days for them, everyone is there to watch football and drink beer.

MLB doesn't have that pull.


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[Money99]

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Time to bring back steroids! Sadly though, that really did get casual fans and newcomers interested.

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Lol!
It's true though.
The sport was hugely popular when all those gladiators were slamming balls out of the park every other game.

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[Majingir]

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Lol!
It's true though.
The sport was hugely popular when all those gladiators were slamming balls out of the park every other game.

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Because people like offense.
NBA, you want to see these highlight reel dunks. NFL you want to see touchdowns. NHL you want to see goals(something they've lacked in past 20 years and it's hurting them). And MLB people want to see home runs.

That's just how it is. Casuals don't care about complete game shutouts or things like that.