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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #9271
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    I don't want to re-open any old, stale debates, but I already miss throwing an actual 4-pitch intentional walk. Just imagine the latest ESPN crew droning on about 'so and so's gonna have to worry about the pitch clock' on one of their broadcasts this season.

    Then we're kicking PATs from farther back. A decade from now, who knows? And, yes, I wear the "slippery slope" argument like a comfortable, old suit.
    Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 01-18-2018, 09:28 PM.
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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52897

      #9272
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      I miss the intentional walk too. I never got used to it and I don't think I will. It's part of the psychology of the game. Not a *poof* he's at first now. It's so cheesy.

      Rob Manfred is already worse than Selig and Stern combined. I'm not sure why these sports commissioners insist on being such immense pieces of ****.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #9273
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
        I miss the intentional walk too. I never got used to it and I don't think I will. It's part of the psychology of the game. Not a *poof* he's at first now. It's so cheesy.
        Half the time I don't realize someone's been IBB'ed until the announcer mentions it! It's annoying as hell.
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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #9274
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Y'awl can scream all you want, I think it needs to be done. 4+ hour games are insane for normal 9 innings.

          It annoys me to watch the batter and pitcher stand there doing dumb nuances for 30 seconds each pitch, leading to an unnecessary 10 minute AB sometimes. Get in the box, get on the rubber and play.

          Same thing goes for the bullpen delaying mound visits by the catcher or putting coach, not to mention why the relief pitcher needs 8 pitches after warming up at least 10 minutes in the pen...the mound is always 60'6".

          Everyone here screamed about replay and it has helped the game. I feel making these players actually play the game instead of thinking how to play the game before EACH MOVE is great in my book. For that matter, I'd welcome an automated strike zone too.
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          • BleacherBum2310
            All Star
            • Aug 2010
            • 7107

            #9275
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            I'm so hyped that a 4 hour baseball game will now take 3 Hours and 45 minutes. That will really bring the fans in.

            if you want to fix the real issue to increase pace of play that would be the strike zone.

            but still Pace of play isn't a problem. (This is a scheduled post)
            Last edited by BleacherBum2310; 01-19-2018, 12:02 AM.
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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42509

              #9276
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Speedy
              Y'awl can scream all you want, I think it needs to be done. 4+ hour games are insane for normal 9 innings.

              It annoys me to watch the batter and pitcher stand there doing dumb nuances for 30 seconds each pitch, leading to an unnecessary 10 minute AB sometimes. Get in the box, get on the rubber and play.
              I'll meet you halfway in saying that some nuances like very wasted motions. I mean I personally stayed in the box and was mind-prepping for the next pitch visually, or if getting a sign or something I'd have one foot out only. Yet still, when watching on TV I'm taking in a lot of what the broadcasters are talking about plus the cutaways, and at the ballpark I would love for that venture to last for a lifetime. Short games are not as great of a time out at the park to me.

              There aren't too many four hours games these days, either.

              Same thing goes for the bullpen delaying mound visits by the catcher or putting coach, not to mention why the relief pitcher needs 8 pitches after warming up at least 10 minutes in the pen...the mound is always 60'6".
              Undoubtedly this has to change. I don't know how many people are in disagreement with this one. Strategy is one thing (though I think visit one per inning is all that should be allowed, coach and/or catcher... and I'm not a fan of the headset idea or whatever), and the stalling tactic is a blatant travesty.

              Everyone here screamed about replay and it has helped the game. I feel making these players actually play the game instead of thinking how to play the game before EACH MOVE is great in my book. For that matter, I'd welcome an automated strike zone too.
              It has made the game more interesting regarding our conversations about it (as well as the media), but I think some replay reviews are kind of destroying the spirit of the rule that they're reviewing against. If we are looking for micrometers of space between a lifted foot and a bag on a slide, I think we're doing it all wrong. Plus, why are some plays not reviewable? I'm not talking balls and strikes, but other ones in general.

              It also looks babyish to me now that players don't really confront umpires anymore. When an umpire calls a runner out, the runner then turns toward their dugout like a child summoning their parent. I liked the bickering and arguments, even at the cost of an ejection. It ramped my blood up even more when it went against us. I also liked the breaks our team has gotten in the past. Armando Galaragga is more famous than not because there was no system in place to reverse Jim Joyce's call.

              I'm not saying replay is a bad part of the game, but the current way that it is really hampers the natural experience I grew up with. I know why it had to be put in, but I still think there are better ways to go about it. Coaches should not be allowed to have any contact outside of their dugout for approval, umpires at the field should be able to determine an overruling if they deem it so from the scoreboard replay without New York's approval, there should be more transparency regarding the way these calls are made, and if a determination can't be made in less than a minute then frankly I think they should be satisfied with keeping the original call.
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              • l3ulvl
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2009
                • 17229

                #9277
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by countryboy
                I will never understand the wanting to speed up the game


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                • l3ulvl
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 17229

                  #9278
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Speedy
                  Y'awl can scream all you want, I think it needs to be done. 4+ hour games are insane for normal 9 innings.

                  It annoys me to watch the batter and pitcher stand there doing dumb nuances for 30 seconds each pitch, leading to an unnecessary 10 minute AB sometimes. Get in the box, get on the rubber and play.

                  Same thing goes for the bullpen delaying mound visits by the catcher or putting coach, not to mention why the relief pitcher needs 8 pitches after warming up at least 10 minutes in the pen...the mound is always 60'6".

                  Everyone here screamed about replay and it has helped the game. I feel making these players actually play the game instead of thinking how to play the game before EACH MOVE is great in my book. For that matter, I'd welcome an automated strike zone too.
                  While we're at it, golf needs a shot clock, quit wiggling your hips and repositioning your feet, and how many practice swings you really need? Just swing the damn club already
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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42509

                    #9279
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by l3ulvl
                    While we're at it, golf needs a shot clock, quit wiggling your hips and repositioning your feet, and how many practice swings you really need? Just swing the damn club already
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                    • l3ulvl
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 17229

                      #9280
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      About 72% of OS probably read this post with this movie moment in their head:


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                      • dubcity
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • May 2012
                        • 17872

                        #9281
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by l3ulvl
                        While we're at it, golf needs a shot clock, quit wiggling your hips and repositioning your feet, and how many practice swings you really need? Just swing the damn club already
                        Even just for financial sake, I think baseball is okay with not being the team sport equivalent of golf.

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                        • Jr.
                          Playgirl Coverboy
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #9282
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by l3ulvl
                          While we're at it, golf needs a shot clock, quit wiggling your hips and repositioning your feet, and how many practice swings you really need? Just swing the damn club already
                          Golf has pace of play rules, so in essence they do have a shot clock.


                          I don't get all the fuss over a pitch clock. The clock was present last year, it just wasn't enforced. I'm sure there will be strict enforcement for the first month, then everyone will adjust and no one will think about it anymore.
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                          • l3ulvl
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 17229

                            #9283
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Jr.
                            Golf has pace of play rules, so in essence they do have a shot clock.


                            I don't get all the fuss over a pitch clock. The clock was present last year, it just wasn't enforced. I'm sure there will be strict enforcement for the first month, then everyone will adjust and no one will think about it anymore.
                            I know this is OT even for OT but what's the name of the golfer who kept getting slow play warnings/violations a couple years ago? I can't think of his name and it's killing me

                            I wanna say he was of asian descent but I'm not sure -it just occurred to me while typing this that it's Kevin Na-

                            sorry for the distraction lol carry on
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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #9284
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by l3ulvl
                              While we're at it, golf needs a shot clock, quit wiggling your hips and repositioning your feet, and how many practice swings you really need? Just swing the damn club already
                              It's being introduced this year on the European tour and has already been used on the Web.com tour.

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47444

                                #9285
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Found some details on the proposed changes:

                                PITCH CLOCK RULES

                                Clock starts when the pitcher has the ball on the mound and stops when he begins his windup or comes set.
                                Should the pitcher step off the rubber, the clock resets.
                                Hitters must be in the batter's box five seconds after the clock starts.
                                Pitchers receive one warning per game.
                                A second violation results in a ball being awarded to the hitter.
                                The rule would come into effect on Opening Day.
                                MOUND VISIT RULES

                                Any visit from a manager, coach, or player to the mound, or if a pitcher leaves the mound to speak with another player, counts as a mound visit.
                                More than one visit in the same inning results in the pitcher being removed from the game.

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