MLB Off-Topic

[ShowTyme15]

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San Diego has been awarded the 2016 All Star Game.

[Mabster]

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In a NL league park two years in a row? That shouldn't be allowed. Especially when the game determines something.

[TheMatrix31]

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I can't stand the idea of a pitch clock. Can't. Stand. It. The beauty of baseball is that it's not timed. The Braves constantly have games going under 3 hours and the pace of the game is *never* as painstaking as, say, sitting through an NBA game. Not to mention that those who whine about the time it takes to complete a game would never just suddenly start watching again. That's just an excuse people throw out when talking about why they don't like baseball. If you straight up don't watch a sport unless it's 10 minutes shorter than it is, then that's on you. Not to mention that there's variance in the time it takes to complete a game *because* it's not timed.

And the worst part would be is if it's constantly displayed on-screen while watching.

Ugh. Leave it the **** alone.

[JODYE]

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Matrix pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

Another thing a clock does is remove some of the angst and tension in late game situations. The beauty of baseball is the slow methodical pace it possesses IMO. A pitcher staring down a batter in the bottom of the 9th, waiting, not knowing when the pitch will be delivered. You can't beat that.

This is also a knee jerk reaction to the lack of an attention span our society possesses now. It's a joke. Stop trying to fix **** that ain't broken.

[ShowTyme15]

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Randy Johnson going into the HOF as a Dback

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/16/randy-johnson-will-wear-a-diamondbacks-hat-in-the-hall-of-fame/

[SPTO]

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Randy Johnson going into the HOF as a Dbacks
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-hall-of-fame/

Crap, I guess i'll have to see what DrJones wants me to put up as my avatar LOL.

[slickdtc]

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Crap, I guess i'll have to see what DrJones wants me to put up as my avatar LOL.

Never bet against DrJones.

[DrJones]

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I can't stand the idea of a pitch clock. Can't. Stand. It. The beauty of baseball is that it's not timed. The Braves constantly have games going under 3 hours and the pace of the game is *never* as painstaking as, say, sitting through an NBA game. Not to mention that those who whine about the time it takes to complete a game would never just suddenly start watching again. That's just an excuse people throw out when talking about why they don't like baseball. If you straight up don't watch a sport unless it's 10 minutes shorter than it is, then that's on you. Not to mention that there's variance in the time it takes to complete a game *because* it's not timed.

And the worst part would be is if it's constantly displayed on-screen while watching.

Ugh. Leave it the **** alone.

I don't like the idea of a pitch clock either. AL games (particularly involving the Yanks/BoSox) can occasionally be excruciating to watch, but there are organic, unobtrusive ways to speed up play if necessary:

1. Batters shouldn't be allowed to step out of the batter's box between pitches unless there's a damned good reason (getting buzzed by a fastball, insect flying into batter's eye, etc.). Step in the box, stay in the box. Quit wasting everyone's time adjusting your gloves and wristbands.

2. Catcher (or other infielder) visits to the mound should count as a manager/pitching coach visit. Two in the same inning and the pitcher has to go. Catcher and pitcher aren't on the same page? Too bad. Figure it out on your own time.

3. No more of this "manager goes out to stall umpire while other coaches check the replay to decide whether to use a challenge" crap. Managers should only leave the dugout during an inning to a.) visit the mound/call for a reliever, b.) ask for a replay review, or c.) check on an injured player. That's it.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I can't stand the idea of a pitch clock. Can't. Stand. It. The beauty of baseball is that it's not timed... Not to mention that those who whine about the time it takes to complete a game would never just suddenly start watching again. That's just an excuse people throw out when talking about why they don't like baseball. If you straight up don't watch a sport unless it's 10 minutes shorter than it is, then that's on you.

And if the average game clocked in at under 2 hours, people would complain they don't get their money's worth. When games reach an average of 4 hours to complete, I'll agree something needs to change. As it stands now, I'm hundo% fine with game time length. Anywhere in the 2 to 3 & 1/2 hours range (not counting extra innings & rain delays) is perfect.

[Perfect Zero]

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I must be in the minority, but I don't think the pitch clock will be a bad thing. Yeah, there will have to be a time to adapt, but there are many times during non-clutch situations where I've seen a pitcher waste everybody's time by going through signs, walking around the mound, staring into space, and asking the catcher to come back up to discuss whether or not they're going to Tony Roma's after the game. I love Baseball, but we've got to do something to increase the pace.

I've heard people claim that they won't get their money's worth at the Ballpark, but I've had many times where during blowouts or non-competitive games where players are just going through the motions and I have to be at an appointment the next day at 8:00am. I hate leaving the game early, but when Matt Garza was on the mound for the Rangers I almost would guarantee that I'd have to leave before the game was over.

I think that having a pitch clock along with having the batters stay in the box will help to make the game flow better. And much in the same way that the Designated Hitter came into being, and the way we've adjusted the mound over the years, and the way we've decided that the color of the jersey matters more than the color of one's skin, we will adapt and find it is better for the game. Baseball, contrary to popular belief, is not static.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Pitch Clock leads to Mound Visit Clock leads to Pickoff amount clock leads to Foulball amount clock leads to runs per inning amount clock.
Please no Clocks in baseball, at least til I'm dead & buried.

[Perfect Zero]

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Pitch Clock leads to Mound Visit Clock leads to Pickoff amount clock leads to Foulball amount clock leads to runs per inning amount clock.
Please no Clocks in baseball, at least til I'm dead & buried.

No it doesn't. Nobody is advocating your slippery slope theory because that's not the issue. I do think in the future that Major League Baseball will look toward Japan when it comes to mound visits, but nobody is advocating that we radically change the game.

In the AFL (and I'm just going by memory here), there were only two pitch clock violations. If any pitcher goes against the clock, they are already in violation of rule 8.04. This is just something to enforce the rule in the book.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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No it doesn't. Nobody is advocating your slippery slope theory because that's not the issue.

I didn't mean to imply a pitch clock would quickly change the game radically

but it's been suggested here:

I do think in the future that Major League Baseball will look toward Japan when it comes to mound visits, but nobody is advocating that we radically change the game.

So pitch count clocks WILL lead to talk of clocks for mound visits, and, it may be 10 or 15 years down the line, but that will lead to another clock.
That's just the progression of "We already have this clock, at this point, what difference does it make if we add another?" Of course, that's just my opinion.

[Majingir]

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San Diego has been awarded the 2016 All Star Game.

The plus side about MLB ASG is that they actually spread it out. You don't see franchises who've hosted multiple ASGs within a 15-20 or so year period. Unlike in NBA where we've had many cities host the ASG multiple times within a 10 year timeframe.


2017 should be in Baltimore(last had it in 93). 2018 in Washington(never had it). 2019 in Toronto(last had it in 91,and by 2019,they'd have real grass at stadium). 2020 in Chicago(at Wrigley. Last held it in 1990)

[SPTO]

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So pitch count clocks WILL lead to talk of clocks for mound visits, and, it may be 10 or 15 years down the line, but that will lead to another clock.
That's just the progression of "We already have this clock, at this point, what difference does it make if we add another?" Of course, that's just my opinion.

Mound visits don't last THAT long that it'll lead to talk of mound visit clocks but rather they're already talking about limiting the amount of visits to the mound which is a far more economical and simpler way of solving that issue. The AFL also experimented with a clock between commercial breaks. I think it was a minute and a half between the breaks though that rule got tweaked after one game when they players came on the field too late or the TV coverage was late. I think they expanded the time to 2 minutes.

Something like that....