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[dickey1331]

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It's dumb either way.

Public money should not goto stadiums.

That's a whole other convo though.

Well it's either pay or they moved to Dallas.

[Perfect Zero]

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Boy, I'd hate to be living in that area.

At least Texas doesn't have state income tax.

I live in Arlington, the cost of living here is no different from any other City in the Metroplex. The team tried to retrofit the Ballpark in Arlington and it wasn't mechanically feasible.

In order to understand the local thought process, you have to understand the history. Former Mayor Tom Vandergriff nearly single handedly brought the Senators here after years of trying. Any Mayor that squanders that legacy will be voted out in the next cycle. I will vote yes in November as this is still a good deal for my hometown

[CMH]

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Looks like the strike zone is changing. I swear I thought they already did this.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I don't have a problem with changing the zone, I doubt I'll even notice. Im not sure on the intentional walk thing, I saw a good example on another site of it being like a coach walking to a ref in an NBA game and saying "we want that guy to shoot free throws" and not having to actually commit the foul. I like the few odd chances where there's a wild pitch, or when Miggy got that hit. And I don't think it'll do anything toward cutting time so it's pointless in that regard as well.

[SPTO]

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Looks like the strike zone is changing. I swear I thought they already did this.

SMH

Maybe they should just go back to the way it was called in the '80s and be done with it.

[Blzer]

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FanGraphs broadcaster rankings. A novel concept.

Rankings #20-11

[dickey1331]

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Yeah the Rangers haven't been the same since Josh Lewin left

[redsox4evur]

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Rankings #20-11

I like Dave better than Don. Both great guys but Dave is better.

[55]

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Rankings #20-11

Glad to see that the Rays made into at least the top ten. Dewayne Staats is such a joy to listen to and Brian Anderson (whom I didn't like much at first) has really come a long way since getting the full time gig in 2011.

[TheMatrix31]

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No idea, 55 said it to me when I said there was a good chance Matt Bush didn't intentionally hit Jose Bautista. Since he avoided 2 people asking him what he meant by that, I'm going to assume that he was calling me an uneducated redneck cowboy since I live in Texas.

That's what we'll have to presume, I guess.

[rkwittem]

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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2016-...kings-tv-10-1/

I am still amazed that Dick Enberg is still calling games. He's always been one of my favorites across the NFL, NCAA, and the few MLB games I get to hear him call. I wish the Padres were better so their games would generate more national interest.

My big gripe is their insistence that the announcers talk about analytics. I get it- it's fangraphs- baseball nerds love talking about crazy numbers with wacky abbreviations, but frankly, that's what sites like FanGraphs are for. I just don't like when the analytics crowd pushes it on everyone or act like you're a moron/clueless dinosaur for not appreciating fancy stats as much as they do. They're just not for everyone and they don't have to be.

I apologize for the mini-rant but the ability to talk about analytics is not the hallmark of a great announcer in my humble opinion.

[Chip Douglass]

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Well, they did rank Vin Scully #1 on their list, and Vin Scully is a guy who's more likely to talk about Madison Bumgarner chopping up snakes than he is about DIPS theory or wRC+.

[rkwittem]

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Well, they did rank Vin Scully #1 on their list, and Vin Scully is a guy who's more likely to talk about Madison Bumgarner chopping up snakes than he is about DIPS theory or wRC+.

That's true, but it was also a no-brainer.

They seemed to be a little more lenient towards the older announcers as long as you didn't ever say anything bad about stats, which is why they crapped on Dick Bremer and Hawk Harrelson. Didn't seem terribly consistent.

[CMH]

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That's true, but it was also a no-brainer.

They seemed to be a little more lenient towards the older announcers as long as you didn't ever say anything bad about stats, which is why they crapped on Dick Bremer and Hawk Harrelson. Didn't seem terribly consistent.

There's a difference between talking analytics and craping on them. You make mention of both scenarios.

[Blzer]

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Given the list, I do hope people give the Giants' announcing crews, for radio or TV, a solid listen someday. I just knew somehow they would be behind Scully though for the top spot though.

Call me biased for the Giants guys, but they really do have the best. I've had MLB.TV for ten years now and literally taken time to hear every radio and TV broadcast from every team before, and no other guys touch their TV or radio. There isn't much homerism outside of emotion for a particular moment, either.

The only caveat is for it to be best, Duane Kuiper must be with Mike Krukow on TV.

As far as radio, they have Jon Miller (come on!) and Dave Fleming. What I fear most is that Fleming might leave for full-time national broadcasting someday (he's that good), and the other three are getting up there in age and may retire soon.

I cannot go back to Joe Angel, please no, never! Even Ted Robinson was not my favorite. These guys are the best, but they are only here and now. I might not be able to say that in 2020.

Keep in mind, there are other TV guys that I really do like, just not as much as SF. Unfortunately, I'm not a big Scully fan, though I will admit he's really good at keeping a conversation going with himself for a full game.

(regarding people just listing their home announcers)

On the contrary: I have already mentioned my displeasure of past Giants announcers, as well as possible future Giants announcers. I also couldn't care less about Kruk without Kuip, and the other way around (and they also are terrible in the MVP Baseball video game series). Finally, Miller is a national broadcast phenom, and Fleming is soon to be one (which most everyone agrees about who have heard them, and cannot say the same for one Joe Morgan).

Most other people also haven't heard the other announcers. I have. I have not given them all 20+ games or anything like that, and as I said I do like a lot of others... but there are also a lot that I dislike.

Can't wait to see where the Giants are, though I think somehow legacy will trump actuality (or my form of it haha). I wonder if they'll count Jon Miller and Dave Flemming though since they do more radio, instead of just Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow.

Yup, called that one early haha.