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  • #20026
    Ghost Of The Year
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    • Mar 2014
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    Sounds like Nelson Cruz's sister was killed too. Just awful.
    All Things 4:13

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    • #20027
      Ghost Of The Year
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      • Mar 2014
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      Ex-Washington Nationals Tony Blanco died in the roof collapse also.
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      • #20028
        Ghost Of The Year
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        • Mar 2014
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        Ex-Washington Nationals Tony Blanco died in the roof collapse also.
        All Things 4:13

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        • #20029
          Majingir
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          • Apr 2005
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          Dotel at one point held the record for most teams played for, only passed by Edwin Jackson. But funny enough, he was traded with Edwin Jackson by the Jays in the Colby Rasmus trade.

          Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
          Ex-Washington Nationals Tony Blanco died in the roof collapse also.
          An original Washington National too. He played in the Nats first ever game.

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          • #20030
            Majingir
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            • Apr 2005
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            Dotel at one point held the record for most teams played for, only passed by Edwin Jackson. But funny enough, he was traded with Edwin Jackson by the Jays in the Colby Rasmus trade.

            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
            Ex-Washington Nationals Tony Blanco died in the roof collapse also.
            An original Washington National too. He played in the Nats first ever game.

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            • #20031
              Madden08PCgmr
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              • Feb 2017
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              Probably less so for many teams, but Victor Robles is a gigantic blow to the Mariners offense.

              I didn't expect him to maintain his level of play from the second half last year, but he was definitely a fire starter for the offense.

              Polanco is injured as well, should be announced today, I'm guessing.

              This really feels like a last place team. I don't care how good the pitching is, they can't salvage this mess.
              You want free speech?
              Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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              • #20032
                DrJones
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                • Mar 2003
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                Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                Probably less so for many teams, but Victor Robles is a gigantic blow to the Mariners offense.

                I didn't expect him to maintain his level of play from the second half last year, but he was definitely a fire starter for the offense.

                Polanco is injured as well, should be announced today, I'm guessing.

                This really feels like a last place team. I don't care how good the pitching is, they can't salvage this mess.
                Absolutely criminal work by the Mariners to waste the prime years of that rotation through cheapness.
                Originally posted by Thrash13
                Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                Originally posted by slickdtc
                DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                Originally posted by Kipnis22
                yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                • #20033
                  Majingir
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                  • Apr 2005
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                  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/10/mlb-...out-looms.html

                  I could see this being the key issue going into the next CBA.

                  League wants salary cap AND floor

                  PA doesn't want the cap.

                  I could at least see the PA being in favour of the floor. I know in baseball it's harder at times because you can have so many younger guys with lower salaries, but as we see, most of the lower salary teams are the ones not spending to keep their own guys or sign FAs.

                  The 03 Marlins are the only team the last 25 years to win the WS with a bottom 10 payroll, so clearly that's a sign on the shape of the bottom spending teams.

                  Spending doesn't equal titles, but it obviously helps a lot. Even if you don't get world series wins out of spending, you can boost revenue with winning during the season.

                  The article says top 10 payroll teams average 89 wins while bottom 10 averages 74 wins.

                  But this could also lead to teams just adopting the NHL loophole where big spending teams dump bad contracts (plus a prospect or draft pick as an incentive) on the teams trying to reach the floor. Though in the NHLs case, player cap hits are determined by AAV, not their salary for a specific year, so that's where the loophole works (a low spending team could add a basically retired guy with a 7m cap hit but they only pay him 500k since that's his salary for the year).

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                  • #20034
                    Master Live 013
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                    And I don't want to pay any taxes, but alas. Baseball will either have both a cap and a floor or neither of them.

                    This is posturing by the MLBPA, they can't say out loud they would be willing to accept something the Union has historically fought against (a cap). But they would, for a price.
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                    • #20035
                      DrJones
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      MLBPA's pain tolerance is far higher than the other 3 NA sports. It'd probably take the loss of two full seasons for MLB to get a hard cap.
                      Originally posted by Thrash13
                      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                      Originally posted by slickdtc
                      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                      Originally posted by Kipnis22
                      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                      • #20036
                        Ghost Of The Year
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                        • Mar 2014
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                        Originally posted by DrJones
                        Absolutely criminal work by the Mariners to waste the prime years of that rotation through cheapness.
                        This is the M's MO. I would like to say its the curse of King Felix but it started before him. Until Seattle wins it all, the M's are snakebit. Wasted Griffey, ARod, Edgar, the Big Unit, Ichiro. Probably missing someone, but at this point its overkill anyway. Seattle just needs to make sure it wins a WS before either Tampa, Colorado or San Diego, or even Vegas, lol.
                        All Things 4:13

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                        • #20037
                          Madden08PCgmr
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                          Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                          This is the M's MO. I would like to say its the curse of King Felix but it started before him. Until Seattle wins it all, the M's are snakebit. Wasted Griffey, ARod, Edgar, the Big Unit, Ichiro. Probably missing someone, but at this point its overkill anyway. Seattle just needs to make sure it wins a WS before either Tampa, Colorado or San Diego, or even Vegas, lol.
                          Seattle would have been better off if 1995 never happened and the Ms moved to Tampa. We could have kept the Sonics!

                          Ownership should hit their knees every morning thankful Junior didn't keep up his historic pace to claim the homerun record. They would have traded arguably the best lefty of all-time AND the homerun king within 18 months of eachother...

                          Clock is already ticking on Gilbert, Kirby.. this was the year to move Castillo.. no chance in hell Kirby inks an extension, even if they offer him the moon

                          Gilbert-Miller-Woo is still formidable.. but thats assuming Woo can stay healthy, which hasn't happened so far

                          They're putting all their faith in the farm.. they'll need to hit on at least 3 of their bats or there's no chance they'll compete for a WS.

                          Rockies and Rays have already been to the WS. COMBINED are they even half as old as the Ms?

                          (not sure why I do this to myself, kinda bizarre I want to love something that won't ever love me back)
                          You want free speech?
                          Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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                          • #20038
                            Ghost Of The Year
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                            • Mar 2014
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                            Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                            Seattle would have been better off if 1995 never happened and the Ms moved to Tampa. We could have kept the Sonics!

                            Ownership should hit their knees every morning thankful Junior didn't keep up his historic pace to claim the homerun record. They would have traded arguably the best lefty of all-time AND the homerun king within 18 months of eachother...

                            Clock is already ticking on Gilbert, Kirby.. this was the year to move Castillo.. no chance in hell Kirby inks an extension, even if they offer him the moon

                            Gilbert-Miller-Woo is still formidable.. but thats assuming Woo can stay healthy, which hasn't happened so far

                            They're putting all their faith in the farm.. they'll need to hit on at least 3 of their bats or there's no chance they'll compete for a WS.

                            Rockies and Rays have already been to the WS. COMBINED are they even half as old as the Ms?

                            (not sure why I do this to myself, kinda bizarre I want to love something that won't ever love me back)
                            Lol. The M's could have moved to Tampa before the last expansion and fast forward thirty years later, maybe they would be ready to move back to the great Pacific Northwest and the Kingdome. I love alt-history like this.
                            All Things 4:13

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                            • #20039
                              Master Live 013
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                              I totally Men-in-Black-ed Rockies ever getting to the WS. Went back and saw the last out, yep, I remembered.
                              OSHA Inspector for the NBA.

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                              • #20040
                                DrJones
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 9206

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                                Originally posted by Master Live 013
                                I totally Men-in-Black-ed Rockies ever getting to the WS. Went back and saw the last out, yep, I remembered.
                                Rocktober! I have a Jeff Francis autographed SI cover from that run.

                                Looking back at his career, was Francis the worst "ace" to ever start G1 of the World Series?
                                He also had perhaps the worst start of any WS G1 ever.
                                Originally posted by Thrash13
                                Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                                Originally posted by slickdtc
                                DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                                Originally posted by Kipnis22
                                yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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