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  • The Kid 24
    It's Show Time!
    • Jan 2007
    • 14765

    #1066
    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
    Tigers sign Mike Pelfrey
    Damn that's a solid rotation they have now.

    Zimmermann
    Verlander
    Sanchez
    Norris
    Pelfrey
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    • bhurst99
      All Star
      • Aug 2003
      • 9137

      #1067
      Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

      Originally posted by AC
      He's just a Shapiro/LaCava yes man. They're doing something similar to the Leafs. Also, Cleveland on a $140 million budget is great. They did a lot of good things there without any money, at all.

      Anthopoulos' comments if he was still GM and Price turned him down:

      "Well, we made what we felt was a competitive offer to David, and unfortunately things didn't play out the way we wanted them to. We felt we offered a strong annual value in spite of the lack of years given, and were very surprised when David told us he was moving in another direction. However, we have lots of balls in the air right now, and we feel extremely confident in our internal options such as [insert 14 year old in Dominican Summer League.] I'm extremely excited about the team moving forward, and will look to address this through free agent deals that fit within our internal evaluations, or trades that help us improve as an organization."

      Likely offer made: 4 years, $78 million
      Brilliant analysis. I thoroughly agree.
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      • Money99
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2002
        • 12695

        #1068
        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

        Originally posted by The Kid 24
        Damn that's a solid rotation they have now.

        Zimmermann
        Verlander
        Sanchez
        Norris
        Pelfrey
        I may be too optimistic, but I think Shane Greene is going to have a good bounce-back year.
        I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Norris for a spot in the rotation.

        Now all Avila has to do is sign Holland.

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        • PhilliesFan13
          Banned
          • May 2009
          • 15651

          #1069
          Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

          Barry Bonds officially named Marlins hitting coach.

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          • Syce
            MVP
            • Dec 2012
            • 1386

            #1070
            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
            Barry Bonds officially named Marlins hitting coach.

            Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk
            hopefully hes not like "ok guys we need to score some runs so lets all pop some juice and start slugging like i did when i played" lol
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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #1071
              Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

              Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
              Barry Bonds officially named Marlins hitting coach.

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              He'll having him a good training regiment soon enough.
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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #1072
                Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                This isn't really rumored or otherwise based on any evidence, but I am starting to think that a Starlin Castro for James Shields trade might make sense. Castro has 4 more guaranteed years at $38MM overall and a pricey team option. Shields has 3 more guaranteed years at $63MM total and the same team option. Considering that the Cubs were rumored to be in on free agent Shields last year, I wonder if this might actually get discussed. If Theo and Jeddie have any faith in Javier Baez whatsoever to play 2B, they have to kick the tires on this one, right? Or plug in a Zobrist.

                The way I see it is why give 31-year-old Jeff Samardzija $18MM/year for 5 years ($90MM in new obligations) when you can get the rest of Shields' career (age 34-37 or so, which is a little worrisome) for $21MM/year for 3 years while dumping Castro's contract ($25MM in new obligations)? Shields and Samardzija were both off their game last year, but Shields had an astounding HR/FB% which should return to Earth this year.

                Think about it...if the Cubs deal a guy like Soler for Carlos Carrasco or Shelby Miller, deal Starlin Castro for James Shields and sign Jason Heyward, that's addition of 3 new veteran pieces to an NLCS team for about 3/4 the cost of 1 David Price in new money on the books. And a rotation of Lester/Arrieta/Shields/Carrasco or Miller/Hendricks or Hammel. I know I run the risk of sounding like 'ol Jim Hendry bringing in vets, but there's plenty of youth to mix it in with.
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                • ShowTyme15
                  LADetermined
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11853

                  #1073
                  Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  This isn't really rumored or otherwise based on any evidence, but I am starting to think that a Starlin Castro for James Shields trade might make sense. Castro has 4 more guaranteed years at $38MM overall and a pricey team option. Shields has 3 more guaranteed years at $63MM total and the same team option. Considering that the Cubs were rumored to be in on free agent Shields last year, I wonder if this might actually get discussed. If Theo and Jeddie have any faith in Javier Baez whatsoever to play 2B, they have to kick the tires on this one, right? Or plug in a Zobrist.

                  The way I see it is why give 31-year-old Jeff Samardzija $18MM/year for 5 years ($90MM in new obligations) when you can get the rest of Shields' career (age 34-37 or so, which is a little worrisome) for $21MM/year for 3 years while dumping Castro's contract ($25MM in new obligations)? Shields and Samardzija were both off their game last year, but Shields had an astounding HR/FB% which should return to Earth this year.

                  Think about it...if the Cubs deal a guy like Soler for Carlos Carrasco or Shelby Miller, deal Starlin Castro for James Shields and sign Jason Heyward, that's addition of 3 new veteran pieces to an NLCS team for about 3/4 the cost of 1 David Price in new money on the books. And a rotation of Lester/Arrieta/Shields/Carrasco or Miller/Hendricks or Hammel. I know I run the risk of sounding like 'ol Jim Hendry bringing in vets, but there's plenty of youth to mix it in with.
                  Could very well happen. Both teams match up on paper.

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42520

                    #1074
                    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                    Barry Bonds officially named Marlins hitting coach.

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                    Originally posted by Sycecg
                    hopefully hes not like "ok guys we need to score some runs so lets all pop some juice and start slugging like i did when i played" lol
                    He's the perfect hitting coach for professional athletes. This isn't like Little League where he's teaching them how to squish the bug (although he has a fine-tuned philosophy regarding the synchronization of the front and back sides), he preaches a mantra of good bat speed, getting good pitches to hit, eliminating the pitcher's best pitch early, owning the inner half of the plate, etc. I'd like to see what comes of this, but especially for guys like Stanton for obvious reasons (with a career 0.42 BB/K ratio), and power lefties like Bour (whose L/R OPS splits were .572/.845, respectively).
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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #1075
                      Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                      Regarding Cubs: If they make a deal for Shields they better hope that in some respects that his HR rate was an outlier because it's a bad sign when you're giving up bombs in the bigger ballparks in the NL West.


                      Bonds: As I've said in some ways I think he's the right guy for the job but I don't know about the temperment or patience will necessarily be there.
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                      • Chrisksaint
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19127

                        #1076
                        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                        I'm excited to see what he can do with Stanton, Yelich, Gordon, and maybe he can get Bour to be more then a 1 season wonder.


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                        • Mabster
                          Crunchy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 7659

                          #1077
                          Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                          It looks like the Cubs signed Lackey, 2 years 33 million ish.
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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #1078
                            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                            Originally posted by Mabster
                            It looks like the Cubs signed Lackey, 2 years 33 million ish.
                            Yep

                            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Lackey in agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a>, two years, $32M-$34M, pending physical.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/672902473951158272">December 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                            Nice pick up for the Cubs but man, the Cards are going to be scrambling for some arms especially now that they've lost the most consistent guy other than Wainwright.
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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #1079
                              Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                              Lackey is 37 years old with a lot of mileage so I get that STL may not have wanted to pony up >$15MM/year.

                              That said, he relies heavily on his sinker and his infield defense; should be a good fit in Chicago....as long as he can keep the ball down.
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                              • WaitTilNextYear
                                Go Cubs Go
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 16830

                                #1080
                                Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                So I was right about adding a veteran pitcher. Kind of surprised they went with someone even older than Shields though. Lackey is already 37. Overall I'm ok with it. It's better than giving 5 years to Shark and they hold onto Castro. Was Lackey really worth surrendering draft pick compensation to the Cards though?
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