2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

[TripleCrown9]

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Last season, Miami became just the 10th team ever to have 3 outfielders reach base safely at least 250 times.

They traded all 3.

For reference, the other teams were the 99 Orioles, 96 Indians, 35 Giants, 32 Indians, 32 Yankees, 31 Yankees, 29 Cubs, 21 Browns, 21 Tigers.

EDIT: I was curious so I looked up those OF trios.

Spoiler

2017 Marlins: Yelich, Ozuna, Stanton
1999 Orioles: BJ Surhoff, Brady Anderson, Albert Belle
1996 Indians: Kenny Lofton, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle
1935 Giants: Mel Ott, Jo-Jo Moore, Hank Leiber
1932 Indians: Joe Vismik, Earl Averill, Dick Porter
1932 Yankees: Earle Combs, Babe Ruth, Ben Chapman
1931 Yankees: Combs, Ruth, Chapman
1929 Cubs: Riggs Stephenson, Kiki Cuyler, Hack Wilson
1921 Browns: Ken Williams, Jack Tobin, Baby Doll Jacobson
1921 Tigers: Harry Heilmann, Ty Cobb, Bobby Veach

[Hammerhunker]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

Last season, Miami became just the 10th team ever to have 3 outfielders reach base safely at least 250 times.

They traded all 3.

For reference, the other teams were the 99 Orioles, 96 Indians, 35 Giants, 32 Indians, 32 Yankees, 31 Yankees, 29 Cubs, 21 Browns, 21 Tigers.

EDIT: I was curious so I looked up those OF trios.

Spoiler

2017 Marlins: Yelich, Ozuna, Stanton
1999 Orioles: BJ Surhoff, Brady Anderson, Albert Belle
1996 Indians: Kenny Lofton, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle
1935 Giants: Mel Ott, Jo-Jo Moore, Hank Leiber
1932 Indians: Joe Vismik, Earl Averill, Dick Porter
1932 Yankees: Earle Combs, Babe Ruth, Ben Chapman
1931 Yankees: Combs, Ruth, Chapman
1929 Cubs: Riggs Stephenson, Kiki Cuyler, Hack Wilson
1921 Browns: Ken Williams, Jack Tobin, Baby Doll Jacobson
1921 Tigers: Harry Heilmann, Ty Cobb, Bobby Veach

Nice research. This is another statistic that drives home my frustration with the MLB's system. The poor Marlin fanbase that this is affecting is almost criminal, especially those that are paying for that stadium.

[TripleCrown9]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

Finally, some Machado news.

He and Tim Beckham are switching positions, with Machado moving to shortstop and Beckham to 3rd.

[DamnYanks2]

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Nice research. This is another statistic that drives home my frustration with the MLB's system. The poor Marlin fanbase that this is affecting is almost criminal, especially those that are paying for that stadium.

Well its not like the marlin fanbase ever showed up anyway.

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[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

Good move for the Brewers...this is the kind of team that should be making a deal for Yelich. They are only a piece or two short of being a legit contender, so a move where you give up prospects makes a ton of sense.

The NL Central is going to be a lot of fun...the Cardinals, the Brewers, and the Cubs are all legit.

It's crazy how quickly fortunes change in baseball...the Cubs may be the 3rd best team in their division now (pending their own moves).

Nah. The Cubs are still the top dog in the NL Central even if they do nothing else this offseason. The Brewers have major questions in their pitching staff. Much moreso than the Cubs. Adding a couple of outfielders isn't moving the needle that far for them. Here's Milwaukee's projected starting rotation at this point:

Chase Anderson
Zach Davies
Jhoulys Chacin
Brent Suter
Yovani Gallardo
Junior Guerra
Brandon Woodruff

They're going to score plenty of runs, but they need to recapture the roll they were on last year and sign a guy like Darvish or Arrieta, or trade for someone like Salazar to really matter. They finished 6 games back of an underperforming 92-win Cubs team last season even getting a career year from Jimmy Nelson (who will be out until TBA).

Interesting to see that FanGraphs is projecting the Brewers to be below .500 (77-85) this season, although I think that projection was from before Milwaukee's recent spate of activity.

St. Louis scares me a bit more if Ozuna plays well and Pham repeats last year. With Alex Reyes coming back at some point, they could get hot. On the other hand, losing Grichuk is a big blow for them in the head-to-head matchups against the Cubs. He was a certified Cub killer.

It'll be an interesting 3-horse race in the NL Central, but ultimately the Brewers and Cardinals should be more in the wild card mix.

[The Kid 24]

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Nah. The Cubs are still the top dog in the NL Central even if they do nothing else this offseason. The Brewers have major questions in their pitching staff. Much moreso than the Cubs. Adding a couple of outfielders isn't moving the needle that far for them. Here's Milwaukee's projected starting rotation at this point:

Chase Anderson
Zach Davies
Jhoulys Chacin
Brent Suter
Yovani Gallardo
Junior Guerra
Brandon Woodruff

They're going to score plenty of runs, but they need to recapture the roll they were on last year and sign a guy like Darvish or Arrieta, or trade for someone like Salazar to really matter. They finished 6 games back of an underperforming 92-win Cubs team last season even getting a career year from Jimmy Nelson (who will be out until TBA).

Interesting to see that FanGraphs is projecting the Brewers to be below .500 (77-85) this season, although I think that projection was from before Milwaukee's recent spate of activity.

St. Louis scares me a bit more if Ozuna plays well and Pham repeats last year. With Alex Reyes coming back at some point, they could get hot. On the other hand, losing Grichuk is a big blow for them in the head-to-head matchups against the Cubs. He was a certified Cub killer.

It'll be an interesting 3-horse race in the NL Central, but ultimately the Brewers and Cardinals should be more in the wild card mix.

Still room in the payroll to add top SP according to Attanasio.

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[Master Live 013]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

As I understand it that FanGraphs projection already accounts for the recent moves by the Brewers.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

As I understand it that FanGraphs projection already accounts for the recent moves by the Brewers.

Then I'd question the validity of it. That projection says the Pirates will finish 1 game ahead of Milwaukee. That doesn't make any sense unless the data is from before Pittsburgh traded McCutchen and Cole.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

Dbacks sign Neftali Feliz.

[DamnYanks2]

Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

OK hot stove back to being boring I see.

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[ShowTyme15]

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Sounds like Ryan Braun will be playing LF, 1B, and 2B this season.

[Sportsforever]

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Sounds like Ryan Braun will be playing LF, 1B, and 2B this season.

2B? Has Craig Counsel lost his mind?

[ShowTyme15]

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2B? Has Craig Counsel lost his mind?

Apparently, He hasn't played the middle infield since he was a SS at Miami.

[Sportsforever]

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Apparently, He hasn't played the middle infield since he was a SS at Miami.

He was awful at 3B...I don't see it going any better at 2B. I think this is something they might try in Spring Training...and then shelve it.

[ShowTyme15]

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He was awful at 3B...I don't see it going any better at 2B. I think this is something they might try in Spring Training...and then shelve it.

I would assume the only way he actually plays 2B is if the Brewers hold onto Santana, Phillips, and Broxton (Broxton has a minor league option though). He will play 1B though for sure from what CC said, but he did also say if they can't find a 2B in the open market they will plug him in at 2B from time to time. I'm with you though, they give it a try in Spring Training and realize it's a waste of time and move on.