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  • thaima1shu
    Robot
    • Feb 2004
    • 5598

    #256
    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

    Just Mariners things. Good times.

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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23703

      #257
      Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

      Just saw that he's ineligible for the postseason (I know, it's the Mariners. Hear me out).

      If a player gets suspended for anything, does that disqualify him for the postseason? Or is it just PEDs?

      UPDATE: it's not for steroids, but for the drug Furosemide. It was prescribed to him by a licensed doctor in the Dominican, and he didn't realize it was on the banned substance list.
      Last edited by TripleCrown9; 05-15-2018, 01:21 PM.
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      • BigOscar
        MVP
        • May 2016
        • 2971

        #258
        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

        Are we supposed to just believe a permanently healthy, hall of fame bound, 35 year old just now decided to risk his entire career and legacy by starting doing drugs? Seems a very strange time to start, surely brings into question the veracity of the testing procedures?

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        • TripleCrown9
          Keep the Faith
          • May 2010
          • 23703

          #259
          Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by BigOscar
          Are we supposed to just believe a permanently healthy, hall of fame bound, 35 year old just now decided to risk his entire career and legacy by starting doing drugs? Seems a very strange time to start, surely brings into question the veracity of the testing procedures?
          I just updated my post. It isn't for PEDs. It was a medication that was on the banned substance list.
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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52923

            #260
            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

            A diuretic not actual PEDs?

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            • thaima1shu
              Robot
              • Feb 2004
              • 5598

              #261
              Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

              Cano's Statement:

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              • BigOscar
                MVP
                • May 2016
                • 2971

                #262
                Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                Yeah he's obviously denied he's cheating and claimed he's taking the diuretic for medical reasons and not as a masking agent, as you'd expect regardless of the truth. Doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd take without thinking it might not be allowed though, you'd expect a veteran like him to know better than to take serious medication without asking the club if it's ok

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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23703

                  #263
                  Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IMPORTANT ON CANO: players are NOT automatically suspended for using diuretics. The suspension means MLB was able to prove he was using it to mask a drug. Cano tested positive before the season, appealed and dropped the appeal. <a href="https://t.co/3l47Mkya46">https://t.co/3l47Mkya46</a></p>&mdash; T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJQuinnESPN/status/996457442337873921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47638

                    #264
                    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                    (my post was basically ^)


                    So Cano conveniently dropped the appeal during his injury? Seems like a real cheap thing to have happen. He'll be suspended, but he's missing games with injury anyways so he's not missing as much time with the suspension?


                    Sucks with all this going on, Mariners still have to pay him ALOT for next handful of years. Maybe one day they can work out something like teams are able to void a contract with a player if something significant like this happens?

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                    • TripleCrown9
                      Keep the Faith
                      • May 2010
                      • 23703

                      #265
                      Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Majingir
                      (my post was basically ^)


                      So Cano conveniently dropped the appeal during his injury? Seems like a real cheap thing to have happen. He'll be suspended, but he's missing games with injury anyways so he's not missing as much time with the suspension?


                      Sucks with all this going on, Mariners still have to pay him ALOT for next handful of years. Maybe one day they can work out something like teams are able to void a contract with a player if something significant like this happens?
                      Well the good news for them is they don't have to pay him for the next 80 games, saving themselves around 11 million bucks.
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                      • BigOscar
                        MVP
                        • May 2016
                        • 2971

                        #266
                        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        (my post was basically ^)


                        So Cano conveniently dropped the appeal during his injury? Seems like a real cheap thing to have happen. He'll be suspended, but he's missing games with injury anyways so he's not missing as much time with the suspension?


                        Sucks with all this going on, Mariners still have to pay him ALOT for next handful of years. Maybe one day they can work out something like teams are able to void a contract with a player if something significant like this happens?
                        Angels will be spiking Pujols drink if that ever happens tbh

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                        • areobee401
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 16771

                          #267
                          Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          Are we supposed to just believe a permanently healthy, hall of fame bound, 35 year old just now decided to risk his entire career and legacy by starting doing drugs? Seems a very strange time to start, surely brings into question the veracity of the testing procedures?
                          No, I choose to believe most of these guys have used PEDs all along. Just so happens Cano was dumb enough to get caught this time.
                          http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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                          • DrJones
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 9109

                            #268
                            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by areobee401
                            No, I choose to believe most of these guys have used PEDs all along. Just so happens Cano was dumb enough to get caught this time.
                            Correct. Some fans seem to think that MLB testing procedures are foolproof, and that any time a player is caught, it means he just started using recently. Those fans are hopelessly naive.
                            Originally posted by Thrash13
                            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                            Originally posted by slickdtc
                            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                            Originally posted by Kipnis22
                            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                            • BigOscar
                              MVP
                              • May 2016
                              • 2971

                              #269
                              Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by DrJones
                              Correct. Some fans seem to think that MLB testing procedures are foolproof, and that any time a player is caught, it means he just started using recently. Those fans are hopelessly naive.
                              I don't think I've ever even heard anything about TUE's in baseball and that's an area absolutely rife with cheating. (that's how us Brits win all our cycling medals) If people think players just stopped cheating because they brought rules in and a bit of testing, they are living in denial.

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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #270
                                Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by areobee401
                                No, I choose to believe most of these guys have used PEDs all along. Just so happens Cano was dumb enough to get caught this time.

                                Exactly my thoughts. I’ll be damned if at least 50% of these athletes aren’t on some substance and just haven’t gotten caught yet.


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