MLB Lockout

[Jr.]

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Players who are on the 40 man roster are part of the MLBPA and are expected to promote solidarity with the union and not play for MLB affiliated minor league teams.

They can play in other leagues, however.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In fact, players on the 40-man MLB roster can play anywhere in the world while there is a lockout in MLB. <a href="https://t.co/y32CcMYD91">https://t.co/y32CcMYD91</a></p>&mdash; Enrique Rojas/ESPN (@Enrique_Rojas1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Enrique_Rojas1/status/1493248597110009860?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2022</a></blockquote> ******** async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ninertravel]

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You Don't need 4 weeks of ST. 2020 is no reflection. they played 3 weeks stopped for 4 months then played 3 weeks. the injuries happened because of 4 months more of a off season which the 2 sides wasted 2 months on insetting a deal done for a 100 game season that turned into 60 games. I don't want to hear the covid excuse they could have started baseball in June that year not late July.

[Majingir]

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That article mentions how the owners are all on the same page and I really wonder how that’s possible with the way a large group of teams just don’t spend money. I would think that would cause dissension when so many teams are collecting revenue sharing and not put it back in to the team.

Exactly.

I'm surprised in a revenue sharing league that the top teams have no problem with bottom feeders not spending.

There needs to be a payroll floor (with the penalty being a reduction of money from revenue sharing if you are below it). Its a win win for most. The teams above the floor have nothing to worry about, and the players know that teams in the league are spending money.

[countryboy]

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I wonder what the chances are, if even possible, the two sides agree to extend the current CBA by one year to ensure regular season games aren't lost and then have the entire calendar year to hammer out the details of a new CBA?

[reyes the roof]

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I wonder what the chances are, if even possible, the two sides agree to extend the current CBA by one year to ensure regular season games aren't lost and then have the entire calendar year to hammer out the details of a new CBA?

I feel like if they did that they’d wait until next January to start negotiating

[countryboy]

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I feel like if they did that they’d wait until next January to start negotiating

Probably which is what is so damn frustrating.

[reyes the roof]

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Probably which is what is so damn frustrating.

Yeah it seems like both sides want to win the negotiations so they want to use the threat of missing games as one of their weapons

[CBoller1331]

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Yeah it seems like both sides want to win the negotiations so they want to use the threat of missing games as one of their weapons

Yeah it definitely seems like this is the case. I typically try not to criticize people for looking out for their own interests, but when both sides seem far more eager to try to get the public on their side instead of negotiating in good faith, its becoming increasingly harder to have any sympathy for either side

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[reyes the roof]

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Yeah it definitely seems like this is the case. I typically try not to criticize people for looking out for their own interests, but when both sides seem far more eager to try to get the public on their side instead of negotiating in good faith, its becoming increasingly harder to have any sympathy for either side

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Yeah I don’t get the way both sides seem to be posturing towards the fans to make it look like the other side is the reason there is no agreement. It’s not like the fans have any say in the negotiation

[jasontoddwhitt]

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Yeah I don’t get the way both sides seem to be posturing towards the fans to make it look like the other side is the reason there is no agreement. It’s not like the fans have any say in the negotiation

And Im not getting the fans who side with the owners in this “ride or die” scenario.


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[Majingir]

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Yeah I don’t get the way both sides seem to be posturing towards the fans to make it look like the other side is the reason there is no agreement. It’s not like the fans have any say in the negotiation

A PR move, but also using the fans as pawns.

Each side wants the fans on their side to pit the others as the villains, so even if the other side gets their way, the one that had more fans behind them can be like "see, we tried, but they didnt want that."

And also, maybe they're trying to use fan reaction as a negotiation tactic too. If fans are mainly behind a certain side on certain topics, that side can use that as proof with a larger sample size of how that offer is a good one.

Imagine fans voting on each topic presented by the PA/MLB. That would be a chaotic but quick way to resolve things.

[kehlis]

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A PR move, but also using the fans as pawns.

Each side wants the fans on their side to pit the others as the villains, so even if the other side gets their way, the one that had more fans behind them can be like "see, we tried, but they didnt want that."

And also, maybe they're trying to use fan reaction as a negotiation tactic too. If fans are mainly behind a certain side on certain topics, that side can use that as proof with a larger sample size of how that offer is a good one.

Imagine fans voting on each topic presented by the PA/MLB. That would be a chaotic but quick way to resolve things.

Spoiler: Neither side cares what the fans think.

And the fans don't get a vote.

Each side is just being difficult to be difficult, there isn't anything beyond that going on.

[Jr.]

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Spoiler: Neither side cares what the fans think.

And the fans don't get a vote.

Each side is just being difficult to be difficult, there isn't anything beyond that going on.

I don't agree with that. If that were the case, players wouldn't be out on Twitter making statements about what's going on. The owners probably don't, though

[kehlis]

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I don't agree with that. If that were the case, players wouldn't be out on Twitter making statements about what's going on. The owners probably don't, though

What sway do fans have?

Pressure maybe? That comes from those close to the negotiations, not you or I.

Getting fans on their side is nice, but it doesn't solve the problem.

[Jr.]

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What sway do fans have?

Pressure maybe? That comes from those close to the negotiations, not you or I.

Getting fans on their side is nice, but it doesn't solve the problem.

I don't think players are doing it thinking it'll have an effect on the negotiations, but they don't want to hear boos from fans thinking they caused the season to be delayed/shortened