Boston Red Sox - 2006

[Thrasha]

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At Pauley's reaction.


The dude pitched a greta game btw... gotta give him credit for coming up big when your bullpen is depleted. He had some good stuff. What ever happened to Dinardo being in the rotation?

On the DL

I forgot about the Damon AB, I agree, that would have probably been the a good time to remove him as well.

What sucky loss.

[Beantown]

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Sucky loss...but at least Pauley had a good start...might be a good sign...hopefully.

[Misfit]

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How do you spell Seanez? G-O-A-T. That was pathetic. The sad thing is I told my buddy it was going to happen too, Seanez cannot be counted on to throw strikes so he should never be brought in in that situation. Wasted an otherwise excellent start by Pauley.

[Thrasha]

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You can't possibly blame Seanez for what happened.

Tito's slow hook is what cost the Sox that run and inevitably the game.

[Misfit]

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No way, Seanez should get most of the blame. A major league pitcher should be able to at least throw a strike in that situation, not walk in the go-ahead run. That is just inexcusable.

And btw, Nomar just homered off Pedro. I wish I could watch that game.

[Stu]

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I can't blame Seanez for that loss. Coming out of the bullpen with the bases loaded is an impossible situation, not to mention they didn't score enough runs to win, which is what's being overlooked here. If you want to blame anyone, blame the offense.

[Thrasha]

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No way, Seanez should get most of the blame. A major league pitcher should be able to at least throw a strike in that situation, not walk in the go-ahead run. That is just inexcusable.

And btw, Nomar just homered off Pedro. I wish I could watch that game.

Seanez threw a strike. Two or more to be exact. He went to a full count on the HGH using prick and walked him on a low, inside breaking pitch.

[Misfit]

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Actually he threw one strike, the ump really helped him out on the 3-0 count.

No one's going to convince me that a major league pitcher shouldn't be expected to at least force the hitter to put the ball in play in that situation. Yes Francona should get some blame for waiting that long to put him in, but ultimately most of the blame falls on the players not getting the job done.

[heavyXBLLN]

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How do you spell Seanez? G-O-A-T. That was pathetic. The sad thing is I told my buddy it was going to happen too, Seanez cannot be counted on to throw strikes so he should never be brought in in that situation. Wasted an otherwise excellent start by Pauley.

WHAT? Would you rather he throw a fat one to Giambi in that scenario? Seanez was put in as tough a situation for a middle-reliever as he could be-- bases loaded, heart of the Yankee order, and a tie ball game. This is a situation where not having a healthy Timlin and Foulke REALLY HURT. You'd much rather bring in a guy with closer experience, but obviously there was no way Papelbon was coming in in the 7th.

The loss is horrible for many reasons, but not because of the Boston pitching staff for once. Pauley showed really good stuff and composure in only his second start, and Seanez didn't totally tank. Boston just left too many on and didn't take advantage of Wong early. And they had some bad luck, too. Trot's line-out to first that doubled up Manny right after Ortiz's homerun was proof of that. That was looking to be the big inning. Then there was Melky's catch.

Check the date, fellas. They don't call them the Evil Empire for nothing. We'll get em tomorrow.

[Misfit]

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If Seanez throws a strike he has a better chance of getting an out than he does if he throws a ball. The best hitters are only successful about 30% of the time, so make a guy like Giambi put the damn thing in play by at least throwing a strike. If he gets a hit then he gets a hit, at least he earned it.

[heavyXBLLN]

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If Seanez throws a strike he has a better chance of getting an out than he does if he throws a ball. The best hitters are only successful about 30% of the time, so make a guy like Giambi put the damn thing in play by at least throwing a strike. If he gets a hit then he gets a hit, at least he earned it.

Wait a minute, I'm not suggesting he TRY to throw a ball... All I am saying is that he would be a fool to pitch him straight up in that situation. He's got to try to hit the corners as best he can, which you are right, he didn't. But damn, you saw Giambi crush Beckett last night, so did I. Last thing you want is 4 runs on the scoreboard. I'll take my chances with the corners...

[Thrasha]

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If Seanez throws a strike he has a better chance of getting an out than he does if he throws a ball. The best hitters are only successful about 30% of the time, so make a guy like Giambi put the damn thing in play by at least throwing a strike. If he gets a hit then he gets a hit, at least he earned it.

If he gets a hit you'd be on here complaining about what a sucky pitcher he is.

Can't win.

[Stu]

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You'd much rather bring in a guy with closer experience, but obviously there was no way Papelbon was coming in in the 7th.

Score another point for closer by committee. We lost a 1 run game in the late innings and our best reliever never got into the game.

[Thrasha]

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Score another point for closer by committee. We lost a 1 run game in the late innings and our best reliever never got into the game.

Here, here.

[Misfit]

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If he gets a hit you'd be on here complaining about what a sucky pitcher he is.

Can't win.

Actually I probably wouldn't. Within this thread, I've probably been the Sox fan with the most patience for Rudy Seanez than anyone else. A tie game in the late innings though, you can't walk a guy with the bases loaded in that situation. He should get heat for that.