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  • Stu
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    • Jun 2004
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    #106
    Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

    Originally posted by FootballForever
    I hear where your coming from, but I don't think a curtain call is showboating.
    I don't think it's showboating, but I can see why he wouldn't want to come out and give a curtain call to the same fans that were booing you earlier. Granted, NY is a tough place to play but that doesn't give the fans carte blanche to act like morons.
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    • cjonesfan921
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      • Jan 2005
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      #107
      Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

      If Beltran didn't take the curtain call, his Met career would be over. It is a big deal. He is lucky Franco was there and he listened to him. If he didn't do it, he would've been booed all year long, doens't matter if he produced or not. BTW, I have no problems with fans booing, we do it because we want you to succeed.

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      • cjonesfan921
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        • Jan 2005
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        #108
        Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

        Originally posted by camulos
        I don't think it's showboating, but I can see why he wouldn't want to come out and give a curtain call to the same fans that were booing you earlier. Granted, NY is a tough place to play but that doesn't give the fans carte blanche to act like morons.
        So the fans are morons for booing a player who is getting paid 17 mil to produce and didn't have not 1 hit in the first 3 games?(is the a fragment?)

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        • Stu
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          • Jun 2004
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          #109
          Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

          Originally posted by cjonesfan921
          So the fans are morons for booing a player who is getting paid 17 mil to produce and didn't have not 1 hit in the first 3 games?(is the a fragment?)
          Absolutely. Any fan that boos a player not named Barry Bonds after 3 games in a 162 game season, is a moron. Especially when that guy is one of your best players. The thing that annoys me, is they'll ask for the curtain call after his HR, then go back to booing him the next game.
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          • cjonesfan921
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            • Jan 2005
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            #110
            Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

            Originally posted by camulos
            Absolutely. Any fan that boos a player not named Barry Bonds after 3 games in a 162 game season, is a moron. Especially when that guy is one of your best players. The thing that annoys me, is they'll ask for the curtain call after his HR, then go back to booing him the next game.
            I disagree. They're booing him because they want him to do good. On a side note, I was listening to the Stephen A show and both Stephen A and the other guy said the fans weren't morons in booing and that if Beltran didn't come out, he wouldn't be a Met too long. I agree it's too early to boo but when your making 17 mil, they expect a lot.

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            • Stu
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              • Jun 2004
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              #111
              Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

              Originally posted by cjonesfan921
              I disagree. They're booing him because they want him to do good. On a side note, I was listening to the Stephen A show and both Stephen A and the other guy said the fans weren't morons in booing and that if Beltran didn't come out, he wouldn't be a Met too long. I agree it's too early to boo but when your making 17 mil, they expect a lot.
              So if he didn't come out for a curtain call, the Mets would suddenly be compelled to trade him, or the fans would turn on him? It's just a stupid way for fans to somehow feel like they're involved. I guess I just never understood booing a player on your own team based on his performance, unless he isn't putting in the effort.
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              • bkrich83
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                #112
                Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                I disagree. They're booing him because they want him to do good. On a side note, I was listening to the Stephen A show and both Stephen A and the other guy said the fans weren't morons in booing and that if Beltran didn't come out, he wouldn't be a Met too long. I agree it's too early to boo but when your making 17 mil, they expect a lot.
                Stephan A. is a complete moron. The fact that he says that, leads me to believe the exact opposite to be true.

                And he will be a Met for sometime. No one else is going to take his contract for the kind of production he generates.
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                • bkrich83
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                  #113
                  Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                  Originally posted by camulos
                  So if he didn't come out for a curtain call, the Mets would suddenly be compelled to trade him, or the fans would turn on him? It's just a stupid way for fans to somehow feel like they're involved. I guess I just never understood booing a player on your own team based on his performance, unless he isn't putting in the effort.
                  The mere fact that they were booing him in his 2nd AB of the season raises questions on the general baseball IQ of typical Met fan.
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                  • cjonesfan921
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                    • Jan 2005
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                    #114
                    Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                    Originally posted by camulos
                    So if he didn't come out for a curtain call, the Mets would suddenly be compelled to trade him, or the fans would turn on him? It's just a stupid way for fans to somehow feel like they're involved. I guess I just never understood booing a player on your own team based on his performance, unless he isn't putting in the effort.
                    Trust me, fans would turn on him like nothing. I think the main reason he is being booed, not just this year but last year, is because he came here with so much expectations(way overhyped) and didn't come close to any of it. That and the fact that he made it clear he wanted to be a Yankee probably has somehting to do with it.

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                    • Fiddy
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                      #115
                      Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                      Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                      If Beltran didn't take the curtain call, his Met career would be over. It is a big deal. He is lucky Franco was there and he listened to him. If he didn't do it, he would've been booed all year long, doens't matter if he produced or not. BTW, I have no problems with fans booing, we do it because we want you to succeed.

                      no his career as a met wouldnt be over and IMO its not a big deal. all the announcers etc blew it all up for no reason!!

                      yeah he makes big bucks and all but IMO all players are overpaid!!
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                      • Misfit
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #116
                        Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                        Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                        Trust me, fans would turn on him like nothing. I think the main reason he is being booed, not just this year but last year, is because he came here with so much expectations(way overhyped) and didn't come close to any of it. That and the fact that he made it clear he wanted to be a Yankee probably has somehting to do with it.

                        So what? The fans don't field a position on the field. The fans turning on him has no true affect on how the Mets play. Would they rather still have Mike Cameron out there? If I'm Beltran, I wouldn't show them any respect if they aren't giving me the same. I bet he wouldn't mind being traded out of there right now. I can't say I feel bad for him though, he went to the highest bidder and could be in Houston right now.

                        I agree with camulos, I think booing your own is absurd, unless they're proven to be a bad human being (and even in that case, I wouldn't boo, just wouldn't cheer).

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                        • NYJets
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 18637

                          #117
                          Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                          Originally posted by FootballForever
                          Beltran gets his first hit wich is a two Run HR, then refuses to come out to a curtian call, until J.Franco tells him to get his *ss out there and take it, the he does. They say the Boo's have been getting to Beltran. Well guess what Beltran this is NY, get used to it and stop crying. I love having Franco on this team, he a one of the best guy's to have on the bench, I love him...
                          He should have come out and flipped all the fans off.

                          Booing him on opening day is rediculous.
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                          • Rod_Carew29
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                            • Apr 2004
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                            #118
                            Re: No Curtain Call for Beltran @ FootballForever

                            Check it.....take off your ROSE COLORED glasses. You REALLY didnt read what I wrote...to grasp ALL that I said. And if the only thing you can see fit to reply to, is my calling those booing fans stupid (remember under what context I said it), then you have not been paying attention.

                            I'll repeat, those IDIOTS that were booing Beltran...and I am going to make a correction here...booing Beltran after his FIRST AT BAT IN 2006 are ALL IDIOTS!!! It's inexcuseable, counterproductive and once again shows...that there are a ton of 'so called' fans who simply arent educated about the game-end of siscussion.

                            If you tell me that after a month of not getting it done, Beltran is booed unmercilessly, you get absolutely NO argument. But after his FIRST AT BAT....it's stupid and I'll keep on saying it till you understand. That first at bat nonsense is what home fans should do with OPPOSING batters.

                            And don't give me this garbage about, "...you know you will get booed in NY when your not playing well..." Not playing well after ONE AT BAT in 2006?!?!?!? You call that not playing well...Please...

                            And oh yeah, you're OUT alright...out of touch

                            I'm out.....

                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            come on man, you know you will get booed in NY when your not playing well, so I have nothing wrong with fans booing, thats just how it is here, and you should know this. For you to call Mets fans that are booing stupid, I say that comment is straight up stupid. If it the first 3 games of the season or the last 3, if your not playing well you will get booed, and if you are playing well, you will be cheered, thats how sports go here in NY period.

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                            • Rod_Carew29
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                              • Apr 2004
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                              #119
                              Re: The 2006 New York Mets...@ NYJets

                              LOL! While I won't agree he shoulda flipped the fans off (ala' Jack McDowell), I totally agree that booing him or any other player on OPENING day is ridiculous...and to boo after ANY players' FIRST AT BAT, is moronic......



                              Originally posted by NYJets
                              He should have come out and flipped all the fans off.

                              Booing him on opening day is rediculous.
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                              • Rod_Carew29
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                                • Apr 2004
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                                #120
                                Re: The 2006 New York Mets...@ Misfit

                                Misfit, I agree with you..and the funny thing with too many of these 'so-called' Mets fans....is when Cameron was here...they were booing his azz out of town...and then when he was traded for Nady this past off-season, you should have heard the outcry...you would thought it was David Wright or someone of that stature that was dealt away.....

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                                Originally posted by Misfit
                                So what? The fans don't field a position on the field. The fans turning on him has no true affect on how the Mets play. Would they rather still have Mike Cameron out there? If I'm Beltran, I wouldn't show them any respect if they aren't giving me the same. I bet he wouldn't mind being traded out of there right now. I can't say I feel bad for him though, he went to the highest bidder and could be in Houston right now.

                                I agree with camulos, I think booing your own is absurd, unless they're proven to be a bad human being (and even in that case, I wouldn't boo, just wouldn't cheer).
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