Official Boston Red Sox 2005 Thread

[deeman11747]

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Yup, Anaheim is the real challenge on this road trip. I'd be happy with a split there and a sweep of KC. We'd come home 6-4 heading into the stretch run where we play 24 at home and only 12 on the road.

Who are the pitchers going for you and them in Anaheim?

[Thrasha]

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I didnt say that.... but neither of them are the '98 Yankees if you know what I mean.

Yankees fans are sounding alot like Cowboys fans these days

[deeman11747]

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FYI the Blue Jays are closer to the Yankees than the Yankees are to the Red Sox.

By a half a game.... lets just drop it the whole arguemnet is stupid.

[Stu]

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Who are the pitchers going for you and them in Anaheim?

Wakefield vs Colon
Clement vs Lackey
Arroyo vs Santana
Papelbon vs ?

[deeman11747]

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Yankees fans are sounding alot like Cowboys fans these days

Not really... I'm just in a bad mood today and I feel like coming in and enjoying the loss.

Nothing but some clean fun.

[Thrasha]

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Wakefield vs Colon
Clement vs Lackey
Arroyo vs Santana
Papelbon vs ?

Hopefully we can jump on Lackey and get into that bullpen early to tire them out some for the series

[Thrasha]

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Not really... I'm just in a bad mood today and I feel like coming in and enjoying the loss.

Nothing but some clean fun.

lol yeah i know, i'm just riding along with it

[deeman11747]

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Wakefield vs Colon
Clement vs Lackey
Arroyo vs Santana
Papelbon vs ?

You should win 2 & 3 but Colon is tough if he keeps the bullpen off the field and is Papelbon going against Washburn maybe?

Edit: Or Paul Byrd maybe? Neither of those guys are too tough.

[Stu]

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Hopefully we can jump on Lackey and get into that bullpen early to tire them out some for the series

We missed Lackey in the previous series this year, but as a team hit him very well. Manny has 4 HR's against him in 11 career at bats.

Colon allowed 5 runs in a 13-6 Red Sox win the only time we faced him this year.

[deeman11747]

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We missed Lackey in the previous series this year, but as a team hit him very well. Manny has 4 HR's against him in 11 career at bats.

Colon allowed 5 runs in a 13-6 Red Sox win the only time we faced him this year.

Can anyone tell me how he is Top 3 in K's this year? Lackey's stuff isnt that great. When I saw him at the Stadium... he was getting all of his outs from his defense and just letting us put the ball in play.

[GBrushTWood]

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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

Exactly. I am forever appreciative of his clutch hits last year, and any WS member of the team who broke the curse will be seen differently as any other player by Sox fans, but does that give him an excuse to be garbage? NO! See : New York Yankees. Bernie Williams is sucking now, and despite being a CORNERSTONE of their dynasty, they are not picking up his contract, and he isnt sucking enough as Bellhorn even. You notice other WS members form this team dont get racked on, Damon, V-Tek, Mueller, Ortiz....but hey, thats cuz they produce in the now. If the kid who complained about giving Bellhorn heat had his way, we'd see Fisk behind the plate, Boggs at 3rd, and Ted Williams head floating around in left.

We've learned 3 things since I last posted in this thread.

1. Add one obsessed fan to the mix and a thread can quickly go to hell.

2. People who responded to my earlier post clearly have little reading comprehension skills, or , inexplicably, are trying to prove a point that I don't disagree on.

3. These same people enjoy building up a strawman to beatdown.

I never suggested that I want Bellhorn back at 2B. In fact, I stated that it would be absurd to play Bellhorn right now over Graffanino (even though Graffanino is likely not truly as good as he is playing right now, hot streaks happen). Let me reiterate myself for those slow ones: me no say Bellhorn better than Graffanino.

How my earlier post correlates into me desiring an infield of Fisk, Boggs, and Ted Williams is beyond any form of understanding to me.

I merely mentioned that the pitchfork wielding disgruntled masses (the same that literally wanted to bludgeon BK Kim) got what they asked for, which is a sad statement about the influence that fans have over a player. I think it's likely that the constant harrassment, booing, and general hatred for Bellhorn strongly contributed to his downfall this year, though I have no way of proving it. He has even said how the hatred from his home fans genuinely got to him.

If I'm Bellhorn, I'm thinking to myself "Damn, I hit 2 of the most important home runs in the team's history, that should be enough to prove myself to these people that I can play and contribute". Clearly, it wasn't, as the fans were literally on him from day one this year. In fact, I've read reports that even on road games while with AAA Pawtucket, these sickening members of "Red Sox Nation" lustily booed Bellhorn. The man deserved better than this treatment.

[DuffysCliff]

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I merely mentioned that the pitchfork wielding disgruntled masses (the same that literally wanted to bludgeon BK Kim) got what they asked for, which is a sad statement about the influence that fans have over a player. I think it's likely that the constant harrassment, booing, and general hatred for Bellhorn strongly contributed to his downfall this year, though I have no way of proving it. He has even said how the hatred from his home fans genuinely got to him.

If I'm Bellhorn, I'm thinking to myself "Damn, I hit 2 of the most important home runs in the team's history, that should be enough to prove myself to these people that I can play and contribute". Clearly, it wasn't, as the fans were literally on him from day one this year. In fact, I've read reports that even on road games while with AAA Pawtucket, these sickening members of "Red Sox Nation" lustily booed Bellhorn. The man deserved better than this treatment.

Unfortunately, Keith Foulke was also a victim to this. Hell, we even booed Manny. But hey, everyone wants to play in Boston, I mean, we are the best fans ever, right?

[GBrushTWood]

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Unfortunately, Keith Foulke was also a victim to this. Hell, we even booed Manny. But hey, everyone wants to play in Boston, I mean, we are the best fans ever, right?

Yep, they're the greatest. Not only did they (I refuse to group myself in with these demented people) boo Manny, they cheered him more than ever a mere 2 days later! Now, THAT is f'ed up. Nobody will turn on you quicker than a Boston crowd, nobody. Boston fans might be the biggest front runners along with the most surly I have ever witnessed.
How common is it to see people relishing and literally taking delight in Nomar Garciaparra's injury situtation and recent struggles? I see it all the time and it's really pathetic. The guy was literally worshipped, yet his name is pissed on all the time. We should really be remembering all the good stuff that players like Garciaparra and Martinez brought to the franchise.

Instead, people can't accept the fact that a player would ever not want to play in Boston (even for financial reasons), and hate them for it.

[Stu]

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We've learned 3 things since I last posted in this thread.

1. Add one obsessed fan to the mix and a thread can quickly go to hell.

2. People who responded to my earlier post clearly have little reading comprehension skills, or , inexplicably, are trying to prove a point that I don't disagree on.

3. These same people enjoy building up a strawman to beatdown.

Enough with the holier than thou attitude. Your original post was in response to VTek simply expressing happiness that Bellhorn is no longer part of the mix. You're the one who chose to twist that into a crusade against fans who choose to boo the Bellhorns of the world. I respect your opinion on the Red Sox but your condescending posts are tiresome.

[GBrushTWood]

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It's not exactly a crusade, it's an observation I began to notice a couple months ago. Given the nature of this thread in the last day ("DAMN! He almost got that pitch"), I'd say it's as relevant as anything else posted on August 17th.