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  • Crookid
    Pro
    • Dec 2013
    • 885

    #211
    Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

    Originally posted by ChrisCP3Paul
    Definitely looks like 2K implemented it wrong, but to you guys arguing it shouldn't be in the game are dead wrong.
    Shot fatigue/normal fatigue/leg fatigue whatever you wanna call it, any real baller who actually plays the game will tell you is a real thing.

    I play drop in ball 4 nights a week 2-3 hours per night, and my shot percentage is noticeably higher first hour or two compared to the last hour, obviously your legs get tired, and it messes up your whole mechanics, everything from arc to whatever else muscle memory is responsible for.

    They should implement it properly next year or leave it out completely, we can all agree it's better to leave out a broken system out of the game
    I agree. Read my post if you missed it. It was a bit of a rant and we won the game so it's not really complaining.

    My whole point is they should fix the ridiculous need for offense in 12 minute quarters, your minutes as a player (in entire 4th quarter when you're up by 30? Playing with 4 other generated rookies), allow the CPU the same cheese etc... Before even considering it.
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    • SolidSquid
      MVP
      • Aug 2014
      • 3159

      #212
      Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

      So is there any fixes to shot fatigue? I'm so sick of giving up 4th quarter leads bc my guys cannot make the easiest open jumpers.

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      • JohnRocket
        Rookie
        • Nov 2014
        • 80

        #213
        Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

        Yeah, the fix is super easy, you just keep scoring. LMAO, I score 90+ all the time with one person.

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        • TheProphecy23
          Just started!
          • Nov 2014
          • 3

          #214
          Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

          Loving NBA 2k15 this year. But this shot fatigue thing is really killing me. I play offline MyLeague with my buddies at school and the amount of shots that get missed are unbelievable. Now I am not saying players should be making 70 to 100 percent of their shots. My frustrations are percentages being to low and very inconsistent. I know teams percentages can differ at any night but this is a little crazy

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          • ManiacMatt1782
            Who? Giroux!
            • Jul 2006
            • 3982

            #215
            Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

            Originally posted by Sundown
            No team benches their stars in a close game. Because they don't magically become unable to hit the easiest of shots after taking a certain number. Also resting a player doesn't recover shot fatigue, so even if you were to bench a player before the end of the game cause he's gassed, it doesn't help.
            exactly, Overall fatigue just needs a hefty bump into the effect of shots, and overall fatigue should have a cap recovery from sitting on the bench. If you played 90% of the minutes in the 1st 3 quarters, sitting for a 1/4th of the 4th quarter should not get you back to 100% fresh.

            Shot fatigue is BS, Fatigued shooting is not. The bump needed to be made into overall fatigue effecting all ratings, particularly shooting, And the ability to recoup stamina needed to be greatly nerfed. Guys Turboing up and down the court and playing all minutes should be sucking wind in the 4th, and even sitting them for a few minutes should not have them back to fresh. Also the deeper you deplete your stamina the harder it should be to recover. playing guys till they hit 40-35% left should never recoup back to 100 in the same game.
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            • Aviator S
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 105

              #216
              Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

              Hoping the dev can look into this and tweak it in the next patch. Shooting this year is very inconsistent.

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              • CRIP4LIFE
                Zero Finger Movement
                • Apr 2007
                • 504

                #217
                Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                shot fatigue 1000000% exists in real-life...

                anyone who argues opposite is just lacking knowledge -- just go watch any 3point contest from any all-star game since it was introduced.

                they talk about shot fatigue NON-STOP during these contests.

                now... debating whether or not you like how 2k devs implemented shot fatigue in a videogame is another debate altogether. but all you have to do is watch one 3point contest from any year to hear retired nba players discuss shot fatigue.
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                • Bruce1975
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 102

                  #218
                  This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                  Originally posted by CRIP4LIFE
                  shot fatigue 1000000% exists in real-life...



                  anyone who argues opposite is just lacking knowledge -- just go watch any 3point contest from any all-star game since it was introduced.



                  they talk about shot fatigue NON-STOP during these contests.



                  now... debating whether or not you like how 2k devs implemented shot fatigue in a videogame is another debate altogether. but all you have to do is watch one 3point contest from any year to hear retired nba players discuss shot fatigue.

                  I've watched 3 point contests. I have heard them talk about many things. Shot fatigue, However, is not one of them.

                  People need to start bringing proof of these "facts" they bring up.


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                  • Sundown
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3270

                    #219
                    Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                    Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                    exactly, Overall fatigue just needs a hefty bump into the effect of shots, and overall fatigue should have a cap recovery from sitting on the bench. If you played 90% of the minutes in the 1st 3 quarters, sitting for a 1/4th of the 4th quarter should not get you back to 100% fresh.



                    Shot fatigue is BS, Fatigued shooting is not. The bump needed to be made into overall fatigue effecting all ratings, particularly shooting, And the ability to recoup stamina needed to be greatly nerfed. Guys Turboing up and down the court and playing all minutes should be sucking wind in the 4th, and even sitting them for a few minutes should not have them back to fresh. Also the deeper you deplete your stamina the harder it should be to recover. playing guys till they hit 40-35% left should never recoup back to 100 in the same game.

                    I don't actually think "shot fatigue" should be lumped into normal fatigue. 2K already had fatigue affecting shots but it wasn't enough.


                    Shot Fatigue should be renamed something more like Offensive Focus-- to suggest it's more mental than merely getting physically tired from shooting 30-40 shots. It should also be implemented so that shot quality factors in (difficult shots drain Focus/Fatigue more, and are affected by it more).

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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #220
                      Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                      Originally posted by Bruce1975
                      I've watched 3 point contests. I have heard them talk about many things. Shot fatigue, However, is not one of them.

                      People need to start bringing proof of these "facts" they bring up.


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                      Players talk losing their legs on shots all the time late in game. But that's defining not the same thing as currently implemented.

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                      • javicd21
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 368

                        #221
                        Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                        At first I liked shot fatigue, but how can they explain a player with 47 points on 57% shooting can't hit any of his shots in the 4th with 5 mins left. Smh

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                        • CRIP4LIFE
                          Zero Finger Movement
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 504

                          #222
                          Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                          Originally posted by Bruce1975
                          I've watched 3 point contests. I have heard them talk about many things. Shot fatigue, However, is not one of them.

                          People need to start bringing proof of these "facts" they bring up.


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                          a rose by any other name, is still a rose.

                          call it focus. call it shot fatigue. call it haffajujubee.

                          2k implemented a system in a videogame to attempt to replicate a real-life situation. like i said, debating how it was implemented makes sense. debating it's existence in real-life displays ignorance of the subject.

                          3point contests (all of them that were played at nba all-star games) are on youtube. go watch 1 or 2. kenny "the jet" smith mentions players getting tired throughout the contests almost every year.
                          Last edited by CRIP4LIFE; 11-10-2014, 11:05 PM.
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                          • El_Poopador
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2624

                            #223
                            Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                            Originally posted by thedream2k13
                            He was tired he should have been benched THATS THE POINT!
                            That should be worked into the overall fatigue, then. There is no visual indication of when a player has "shot fatigue" in the game, so if the fatigue bar under the player isn't drained, it is assumed they are not tired.

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                            • El_Poopador
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2624

                              #224
                              Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                              Originally posted by ChrisCP3Paul
                              Definitely looks like 2K implemented it wrong, but to you guys arguing it shouldn't be in the game are dead wrong.
                              Shot fatigue/normal fatigue/leg fatigue whatever you wanna call it, any real baller who actually plays the game will tell you is a real thing.

                              I play drop in ball 4 nights a week 2-3 hours per night, and my shot percentage is noticeably higher first hour or two compared to the last hour, obviously your legs get tired, and it messes up your whole mechanics, everything from arc to whatever else muscle memory is responsible for.

                              They should implement it properly next year or leave it out completely, we can all agree it's better to leave out a broken system out of the game
                              But is your shot the only thing that gets worse the more you play? I'm willing to bet your defense isn't as tight in that third hour versus the first. You probably don't run as fast for the same period of time either. The point is that your ability to shoot isn't the only thing to take a hit. With the shot fatigue mechanic, it is. That is not realistic.

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                              • VDusen04
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 13028

                                #225
                                Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                                Originally posted by CRIP4LIFE
                                shot fatigue 1000000% exists in real-life...

                                anyone who argues opposite is just lacking knowledge -- just go watch any 3point contest from any all-star game since it was introduced.

                                they talk about shot fatigue NON-STOP during these contests.

                                now... debating whether or not you like how 2k devs implemented shot fatigue in a videogame is another debate altogether. but all you have to do is watch one 3point contest from any year to hear retired nba players discuss shot fatigue.
                                Cranking out 25 shots non-stop spread across the court in under a minute is an aerobic endeavor, undoubtedly. Body fatigue can exist if taken to wild extremes while shooting. On top of shooting as many 24 foot jumpers as possible in a minute's time, shooting at one's own pace for 24 hours straight would also bring about fatigue.

                                However, there is a huge, huge difference between those examples and anything that occurs within an NBA game. Moreover, once NBA players finish their first round in a 3pt. Competition, their body takes little time to recover before it's ready to go for round 2. A 3pt. round is more akin to a turbo bar slow depleting then recovering at the conclusion of the round. This would be in contrast to 2K15's apparent initial setup of taking away shot accuracy the moment a fixed number of attempts was met.

                                In short, the shot fatigue being referenced in 3pt. Competitions varies greatly from what has been at play in 2K15.

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