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  • Magnus1959
    MVP
    • Apr 2013
    • 1997

    #31
    Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

    There is shooter fatigue and there is this stuff.
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    • BBallcoach
      MVP
      • Dec 2012
      • 1524

      #32
      Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

      Originally posted by Bruce1975
      I see where he is coming from kinda. A lot of other things will make you tired before shooting.

      When shots usually start going off is when legs get tired, and that is not main consequence of shooting.


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      Thank you for confirming you've never played either. Any good shooter will tell you, you shoot with your legs. And your legs are the first thing that go when you shoot a lot.
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      • mrchiggs
        Pro
        • Sep 2005
        • 511

        #33
        Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

        Originally posted by 24ct
        This is all true. But the real/main problem which is unrealistic is it doesn't effect the CPU. At all. Which is cheap when my player can't score but Westbrook is 30/30 on HOF when I have Lockdown Defender, lol...
        LOL @ 30/30... I'd be like, "I'm not even mad yo..." CTHU

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        • pdx_24
          Rookie
          • Jan 2010
          • 213

          #34
          Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

          Originally posted by BBallcoach
          Thank you for confirming you've never played either. Any good shooter will tell you, you shoot with your legs. And your legs are the first thing that go when you shoot a lot.
          And that's fatigue. It's not the shot that tires you out, it's the effort of creating space to get a good shot up that tires you. Give a spot up shooter like Kyle Lodger open looks and he can easily put up 30 shots in a game without breaking a sweat. But ask him to create shots for himself and I'd bet he gets tired quickly.

          I really hate this "shot fatigue" nonsense. Just keep it simple and incorporate it into the current fatigue mechanic.
          Last edited by pdx_24; 10-23-2014, 09:27 PM.

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          • Ownal0t
            MVP
            • Jul 2014
            • 1244

            #35
            Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

            as a baller, i can say i have NEVER gotten tired off shooting alone. and hell, i had 4 hour shoot arounds. if and when i do get tired while balling, its while im on defense. i honestly use most of my energy on Defense since thats what my thing is. where is a reason why most high profile scorers seem to give no ****s on defense. cause it makes them tired and they cant do the thing they get paid to do the most, be scorers.

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            • BBallcoach
              MVP
              • Dec 2012
              • 1524

              #36
              Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

              Originally posted by pdx_24
              And that's fatigue. It's not the shot that tires you out, it's the effort of creating space to get a good shot up that tires you. I really hate this "shot fatigue" nonsense. Just keep it simple and incorporate it into the current fatigue mechanic.
              You also don't play... Wow. You can get tired shooting, you're legs don't have it but be fine in defense and other aspects. I'm sorry, it's a real thing. Anyone who disagrees, shows me they don't play or they are terrible shooters. Either case. Your legs tiring in your shot is a thing and it's not just overall fatigue.
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              • Bruce1975
                Rookie
                • Sep 2014
                • 102

                #37
                This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                Originally posted by BBallcoach
                Thank you for confirming you've never played either. Any good shooter will tell you, you shoot with your legs. And your legs are the first thing that go when you shoot a lot.

                I guess since your Bballcoach your end all. I play hoops 4 times a week.

                I'm the one that said legs are the most important part of shooting. I also said allot of other parts of basketball tire your legs out before shooting does.

                But whatever, your the coach.


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                • alabamarob
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3340

                  #38
                  Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                  2k did a great job with shot fatigue this year.

                  1. You are required to play to the strength of your team, and shoot with the guys who shoot alot in real life.

                  2. It takes a ton of energy to get up 20 shots a game. That is why most scorers guard the other teams weakest defender to save energy on defense.

                  3. Even in 3 point shooting contests with the nba's best shooters those dudes get worn down after they put up a certain amount of shots and they arent even working for those shots.

                  4. I think they should factor in things like whether or not someone is a set or jumpshooter and the set shooter should fatigue slower.

                  5. In real life you cant jack shots up with one guy the whole game. Even melo has jr smith taking up shot attempts.
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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #39
                    Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                    An argument that it is realistic or "sim" can be made but in the end I think it is 90% a game design decision to force gamers to play the game in a more sim fashion.

                    It is a unrealistic mechanic designed to make gamers play realistically.

                    I'm cool with that.

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                    • nry20
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 149

                      #40
                      Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                      No shooters fatigue? Are you kidding me? I'm doing the all-star break on mycareer doing the 3 pt contest, I've restarted 15x now and my arm is tired as hell, and I'm not even really doing anything.

                      Rofl.

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                      • Crookid
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 885

                        #41
                        Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                        I agree. 2K still can't make 12 minute quarters feel realistic. Especially in MC. They want to limit the score, stop making the coach have you subbed in so much and stop allowing heavily contested mids drop.

                        I understand this year they wanted to make it more realistic where if a hand is not up or close it's considered an open shot, but poor AI, ridiculous shooting %s, forced drives during fast breaks, second chance points and too much reliance on momentum is what causes the issue. Tweak those and the game will be more on point.
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                        • aimlessgun
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 160

                          #42
                          Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                          Originally posted by alabamarob
                          2k did a great job with shot fatigue this year.

                          1. You are required to play to the strength of your team, and shoot with the guys who shoot alot in real life.

                          2. It takes a ton of energy to get up 20 shots a game. That is why most scorers guard the other teams weakest defender to save energy on defense.

                          4. I think they should factor in things like whether or not someone is a set or jumpshooter and the set shooter should fatigue slower.
                          To me its more of a problem in mycareer, where you cannot control any other player, so once you hit that shot fatigue you cannot try to make any clutch shots in the 4th and have to rely on AI controlled teammates.

                          It takes energy but it should be a combined fatigue system, not 2 seperate ones. If I don't rebound or play D, I should be able to take more shots before my shot quality tanks. Take Oscar Schmidt for example, ("best player to never play in the NBA"), 50k career points and a shameless gunner, said his secret to dropping 40+ decent shots a game is "don't start playing defense until the 2nd half".

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                          • Necrosis
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 107

                            #43
                            Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                            Shot fatigue wouldn't be a big deal if your teammates in MyCareer could actually hit their shots.

                            Once your guy's shot fatigue kicks in you're left relying on your teammates that shoot around 20% it seems like.

                            And it doesn't help that the cpu seems to have the opposite of " Shot Fatigue ", the longer the game drags on, the more deadly they become when shooting the ball.

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                            • Kamikaze1201
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 37

                              #44
                              Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                              One part that I think everyone can agree on is that whether you think shot fatigue is realistic or not, it limits youre ability to set records and make history which is a huge draw for games like this.

                              I watched LeBron drop 60+ on the Bobcats last year, at one point it was clear we were going to win but Spo kept LeBron in the game, why? Because one of his assistant coaches said this is a special night for him, hes feeling it just let him see what he can do.

                              It wasn't about the game anymore, LeBron was just chasing his own greatness. This factor limits those special moments.

                              Kobe having that stretch of dropping 50+ multiple times in a week? I can't do it. Jordan dropping 60+ in the playoffs? I can't do it.

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                              • pdx_24
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 213

                                #45
                                Re: This 'Shot fatigue' thing is the most ridiculous mechanics for 2k15

                                Originally posted by BBallcoach
                                You also don't play... Wow. You can get tired shooting, you're legs don't have it but be fine in defense and other aspects. I'm sorry, it's a real thing. Anyone who disagrees, shows me they don't play or they are terrible shooters. Either case. Your legs tiring in your shot is a thing and it's not just overall fatigue.
                                You don't seem to comprehend what I and a lot of other people are saying. I'm not saying that taking a lot of shots doesn't tired you out. It does! But it's from the effort of creating space to get the shot up that tires you out, not from the mere act of raising your arms and bending your knees to shoot. Like I said, give Kyle Korver open spot up shots and he'll knock it drown all day without breaking a sweat.

                                This "shot fatigue" thing doesn't seem to distinguish fatigue from creating shots and the mere act of shooting, which is a flaw. It seems that it doesn't matter how you got the shots, if you shoot a certain amount you hit this arbitrary "shot fatigue". If all of my shots came by spotting up and not because I created space, I should be able to put 50 shots without breaking a sweat (assuming I'm not running around like crazy to find an open spot).

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