So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

[zrohman]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

When I'm covered well I'll shoot 30%. When I get open shots and play great I can shoot 60%. Computer shoots over 60% when I don't play defense, and under 50% when I do play good defense

[blues rocker]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

haha - people still complaining about this? it's been put to bed. there is no "forced momentum". it's all based on how you are playing. yes, players can get hot and teams can get hot, but 2k has provided us with ways to combat those runs and stop them. you have to make adjustments to shut down hot players (change your defensive settings, and manually double team when a hot player is isolating). eventually they'll cool off and if you continue making good decisions you will come out on top.

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Shooting/scoring is screwed up, players are making over 95% of contested layups and shots under the rim while in contested animations. Shots from further behind the 3 point line now go in with ease. Players are now making highly contested 3's with 2 defenders running at them, but will miss wide open. Shots like turn arounds, leaners and floaters are damn near going in 98 % of the time.

The whole system needs to be redone and badges and all that extra stuff need to be removed.

These offline guys play the CPU so much they don't know what's realistic and what isnt. Don't question someone's skill while your playing with everything tweaked the way you like it. Get online with humans to see what's really going on when the ai starts to have an influence on the game.

[Merize]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Im not even going to start breaking this bull**** programming down

game play and momentum is ridiculous period

ever played a bum wiyh no skill who picks the cavs ?
Cpu does evrything for him and everything against you

im done with 2k since january game looks good but the gamrplay gets worse every year

ridiculous how 2k glamourizes this crap and people backin it up..
You know somethings wrong wenn u can predict the oucome of the game

im done with 2k and oh yeah no online leagues next year ? Im completely done for ever .bet on that

Sadly, it's the way the game have to balance those matches with lots of difference in the skill and to don't have games over 40+ points between them.

[TheBallGuru]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

This has happened a bunch but in 3 of my last 4 games it will prove my point

I use Shady Mikes sliders. I play as the Celtics.

First game I got hot early and was able to sustain a lead from 7 at end of 1Q to 13 after 2Q. Then in 3rd I pushed lead to 22 and had lead up to 32 before putting the bench in and winning by 27 over the Magic.

Next game I played the healthy thunder and from the jump they pummeled me, have played them close and have beaten them in the past but this game was all KD and Russ and I lost by 17. Was never close.

And my 4th game I played the Clippers. Game was a battle back and forth the whole way ton of lead changes think the largest lead for either team was 8. Got to OT and pulled out a win by 3.

Point being that this comeback code nonsense is absurd. Is momentum maybe too strong? Maybe but I'd say no. Game 1 I played a team that stinks and whacked them, game 2 I played a team that had way more talent then me and got overpowered by KD and Russ no matter what I tried scheme wise (sounds like an Okc game). Then game 4 at home vs LAC I was able to pull out a big win due to hitting a few more threes when it mattered then LAC. But people always blame the game when they lose. I'm a basketball coach so my iq of the game is very high in past games I thought 2K brought nothing to the table from the CPU. But this year they have a semblance of an offense. Watching these videos some post about the comeback code glitch makes me laugh. Not to brag or say my stick skills would win out but with the way some of you execute offense in half court and play d is amazing you don't get killed every game just due to a guy who has a high ball iq picking you apart. Again not saying I'm better at the game but if you get good shots and no what's a good shot then very rarely if ever will a team whose gunning and jacking threes beat you or make the game close. What you guys don't mention is that after your opponent hits a BS shot, instead of making sure you run good offense on the other end you get frustrated and try to match or blame the game and it takes you out of what you wanted to do (talking from experience in real basketball and 2k).

Did anyone watch the CLE-BOS series? The cave through up 4-5 shots a game that were iso 12 dribbles three in the defenders face (who played great d). NBA players are great they can hit a tough shot, %s won't be high on them but they do go in, same in 2k you just have to weather the storm and continue to run good offense and those gunning bums won't beat you cause they will take low % shots while you get high % shots.

[Jrocc23]

So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Shooting/scoring is screwed up, players are making over 95% of contested layups and shots under the rim while in contested animations. Shots from further behind the 3 point line now go in with ease. Players are now making highly contested 3's with 2 defenders running at them, but will miss wide open. Shots like turn arounds, leaners and floaters are damn near going in 98 % of the time.

Hit it on the head with this post. People in the Park and other modes is making stuff that would have rarely went in prepatch with ease now.

For example, I know we all had that moment when we try to attack the rim but instead we accidentally do it too far away or whatever happens and we shoot a silly jumper. Yeah, now that goes in with ease when you'd usually miss it. Prepatch you could tell if someone could actually shoot. Now you have to respect EVERYONE.

Anyone try the step backs, spinning jumpers, hop shots and etc since the patch? money now. Please go try out the hop shots. I used to never make these but now I am even hitting them from 3. This silly type of stuff rarely went in. And man, if you have a decent post game and player now, it's deadly. Post fade aways and hooks go in at an extreme rate but most people don't utilize it. The patch just made all type of shooting go in a lot more mainly around the mid range area.

Don't even get me started on that little fall back floater thing lol. It was going in a lot prepatch but now...smh

[zrohman]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

I had kahwi leonard on melo all game ...made no difference
the amount of threes droppin is crazy even with lock down defender contestin the **** out of melo

I was playin this dude and he had a little run going with the clippers
and I almost forced the shot clock on him but guess what lol

I swear he drilled a 3 with jordan lolololol thats 2k if **** goes it goes for you and vice versa

the problem I have is the cpu interferes between your rebound contest jump anumations
where it glues you to the floor untill the offense gets it in thats the most hated t hing for me

why limit my defense ?? Im done with 2k I hope they bring a polished game next year

Translation: I think I'm better than I am, I lost to a better opponent, but I don't see it that way. I can't play defense and I blame everyone but myself, I quit.

Yes, 2k needs to improve defense, players slide around too much, but this thread is full of people complaining because they are losing. Even more proof that while momentum may swing a little too much, there is no "comeback code"

[quitdabull]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

i got a question for the people saying that people complaining are losing to better players

Are you playing online ranked or myteam?

There are people that should be getting blew out by 30 plus, whooping .... on a daily .

Im talking catch the ball at the free throw line and sprinting to the corner with Durant for a 3 all game , type players are beasts in 2k15

Sprinting back and forward along the arc of the 3 point line until the opponent bites giving up a lil space for a 3 = gold

What ever happened to that great new feature ''shot fatigue''??? Or fatigue all together for that matter.

I think it actually was 2k11 where bad play was punished and you could torch scubs into submission with mid range jumpers from rip hamilton and good defense

Now bad play is rewarded and everybody is Richard Hamilton in his prime with a MJ fadeaway...

Post up with an average big man and watch as Mozgov pulverizes your dude into the hardwood with a JBL clothesline for a no call turnover fastbreak alley oop to Lebron

/rant

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

this is the bottom line . Its like the better player you are the harder it is for you to win ... Open shots clanking that you worked hard for while your opponent drills 3 after 3 in your face . If its a brick forget about boards and there u go anotherr 3 in the bucket.

Its like the game reads that 1 user needs help so it lets them wreck havoc on rookie while you are battling a hall of fame cpu assisted bum that shoots 40 threes a game with no regrets

Just lost to a dude that made 11 3 pointers with chris paul...

Funny how you guys can sit there and proclaim how some people have no skill, yet you lose to them. What's that say about you? Blame the game all you want - the other dude is playing the SAME game. The ONLY difference is the teams and you. Guess which one is actually the problem...

Bruh i play on ball D...

let me keep this short . I just made a 3 with Pondexter a shot i usually dont take well contested the meter was red but The shot was money

So? Every squirrel gets a nut. Take a video of 10 of those "red" shots and post it. How much you want to bet you'll maybe make 2. 3 of you're lucky.

Fully agree with quit da bull ...we are all different type of players with our own level of criticisn and the way we enjoy ball games

the thing I hate is wenn your defenders cant contest a jumper or three and seeing it go in all the time

Of course you agree with him. He's just echoing your primary point and you're going to back each other up. And you both come at this as if every contested jumper goes in "all the time". Yet, there are hundreds of Youtube and Twitch videos of people playing the game that says that's nowhere near true. And why is that whenever someone disproves a point of your's, you try to play the "play online ranked" card as if these people don't. And THEN you have the people complaining about Park play, not acknowledging that pretty much EVERY player has attributes on the level of Michael Jordan! Of COURSE more tough shots go in in The Park. Everyone is a GOAT!!!

But you are right with your bottomline - if the game is not fun to you, why buy it? Why play it in April? Why play it online? I give you credit though - at least you didn't try to play the pitiful "NBA Live" card. I'll wager, however, that the hot/cold system isn't going anywhere and there are thousands of players much better than you online. So, don't expect anything to change in your results... In ANY game.

[Pokes404]

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I think it actually was 2k11 where bad play was punished and you could torch scubs into submission with mid range jumpers from rip hamilton and good defense

/rant

And yet, spin dunks, eurosteps, and hopsteps were practically unstoppable in that game. Much, much more difficult to stop than the left-right 3 cheese in 2K15. It was a great game and I played the Hell out of it. But at the same time, it had it's flaws too. There were plenty of people complaining about the cheese and exploits being used by people online back on 2K11 (spin dunks and charges at halfcourt being the most seen).

Bottom line, we are a long ways off from being able to replicate a sport with 100% accuracy in a video game. That means that there will always be cheese moves/plays/tactics. There will always be things in the game that are more or less effective than they are in real life. And people who don't care about anything other than winning, they are going to find those cheese tactics and exploit them.

[quitdabull]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

This guy...

Let me rephrase my interpretation of obvious bad play

You ever played against a lil kid umm lets say 9 to be fair

This 9 year old just knows how to run with turbo , pass and shoot

hes not a bad player just not old enough to fully utilize the controls

Now have you played anybody online and went hmm this guy is playing like a a friggin 9 year old i mean no use of basic crossovers no pick n rolls just full blasted sprint left sprint right not open yet sprint left again ok im open threeeeeeeeeee

Those guys didnt last a day on 2k11 even 12 . 2k15 its almost normal behavior... thats all you see in mypark

I dont have a problem with euros hop steps and such but this is an all time low

[Shady Mike]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

This guy...

Let me rephrase my interpretation of obvious bad play

You ever played against a lil kid umm lets say 9 to be fair

This 9 year old just knows how to run with turbo , pass and shoot

hes not a bad player just not old enough to fully utilize the controls

Now have you played anybody online and went hmm this guy is playing like a a friggin 9 year old i mean no use of basic crossovers no pick n rolls just full blasted sprint left sprint right not open yet sprint left again ok im open threeeeeeeeeee

Those guys didnt last a day on 2k11 even 12 . 2k15 its almost normal behavior... thats all you see in mypark

I dont have a problem with euros hop steps and such but this is an all time low

[luijo]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

I'll have to agree with some guys stating that bad play is highly rewarded in this game. The feeling of losing against a player that clearly played a better game is completely different when you lose against a guy that didn't apply the most simple basketball fundamental in the game.

My conclusion is that you don't need to know how to play basketball to win in this game, you just need to learn to know how 2K15 behave in some situations and use that in your favor.

As for comeback code, I'll try to explain what I'm experiencing. When I'm playing against the CPU I'm noting that my teammates don't have the same awareness of my opponent. That gives the CPU a lot of scoring opportunities that tend to start runs.

Note: When I'm playing against the CPU I defend with my PG unless the player with the ball is posted up.

[Shady Mike]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

I'll have to agree with some guys stating that bad play is highly rewarded in this game. The feeling of losing against a player that clearly played a better game is completely different when you lose against a guy that didn't apply the most simple basketball fundamental in the game.

My conclusion is that you don't need to know how to play basketball to win in this game, you just need to learn to know how 2K15 behave in some situations and use that in your favor.

As for comeback code, I'll try to explain what I'm experiencing. When I'm playing against the CPU I'm noting that my teammates don't have the same awareness of my opponent. That gives the CPU a lot of scoring opportunities that tend to start runs.

Note: When I'm playing against the CPU I defend with my PG unless the player with the ball is posted up.

Ok, first of all the dude said the guy hit 11 threes on him...that's not "rewarding bad play" that's not knowing wtf you are doing on defense...learn to play on-ball defense...cmon people.

And on the CPU, you like everyone else in this thread are complaining about basic concepts that can easily be altered by sliders...How are you going to say your teammates aren't as aware as the CPU when there are 2 sets of awareness sliders? If the CPU is too aware, turn their's down...if your defenders aren't aware enough...turn yours up...If that's not working, then turn the difficulty down...is there still a "comeback code" on Rookie? lol I just don't understand how THAT can be used as evidence to a "comeback code..."

The way I see it, the "comebacks" online result from a lack of skill (and people thinking they are better than they really are) and the "comeback code" offline is just a result of laziness and people feeling like they shouldn't have to tweak sliders...If only there was a section on operation sports...a collection of sorts of sliders developed by people who are dedicated to making the game more realistic....Oh wait.

[QNo]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

You can't adjust sliders online. There are indefensible, super cheesy moves that can't be defended. Somebody abusing these with no basketball IQ can win games. Somebody abusing these with basketball IQ will win almost every game. This is especially evident in MyTeam, where lots of people construct teams in a way to have the cheesiest lineup possible.

They just released a dunkers pack made of 10 players that all have 99 dunking, speed, (lat) quickness, vertical. This includes Blake Griffin, Shawn Kemp, and Darryl Dawkins, making them the 3 best big men in the game.

There are also other players like buffed versions of Steph Curry that are simply indefensible. They will sprint along the 3 point line for 24s until they get an open look and make it with high percentage. Doesn't help to put prime Gary Payton or Artest on those guys, on or off-ball. People win like this without even calling for a single PnR the entire game, let alone something more complicated. The guys who know to call a 4-1, put 4 3 point shooters on the floor and do this with some patience WILL get an open look on almost every possession. And this is only the most obvious, easiest to learn form of cheese.