So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

[The 24th Letter]

So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Were those missed dunks supposed to prove comeback code exists?....shouldn't he have posterized you those 3 times despite you being in the lane since he was down to 'keep the score close'?

Personally I think the 3rd interaction and all like it should be fouls since he got there late....really hope 2k reworks the foul logic next year...

[TheBallGuru]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

This is great, I love this.

FIRST ATTEMPT: The commentary on that first dunk attempt talks about the Rockets getting steals and making stops.

TRANSLATION: You've been turning the ball over and playing sloppy, giving up the ball, and now the Rockets have momentum.

SMART RESPONSE: Call time out or change up your offensive plan and style of attack, preferably both. Maybe make some smart substitutions to support a new approach.

YOUR RESPONSE: Nah, I think I'll keep going the same thing and attack the guy who just got another momentum boost by blocking my dunk attempt.

SECOND ATTEMPT: What you did before didn't work, and your guys are cold while the defense is hot. Same result from the same offensive approach. More momentum to the defender and the defense as a whole.

SMART RESPONSE: Ok, I guess now I really need to do something different because clearly what I am doing is not working and the game has gotten away from me.

YOUR RESPONSE: Adjustments are for wimps. I AM POSTERIZER THOR I WILL PREVAIL!

THIRD ATTEMPT: Game to user: you are not Thor. Sit down, son.

SMART RESPONSE: I really have to try a new approach. And for God's sake, I hope no one ever sees this series of offensive decisions I just made!

YOUR RESPONSE: I'll post this to OS to prove how broken the game is with rhythm/momentum, because clearly outlier events do not make the highlights on ESPN every night of the week. Because I AM THOR I DON'T NEED NO BASKETBALL SMART FANCY ADJUSTMENTS!

Seriously, this video doesn't show what you think it shows, but it's absolutely great you posted it. It gives the community something concrete to review together. The set up to those events was your sloppy offensive play and turnovers, as the commentary makes perfectly clear.

You're not playing smart and you're blaming the game for recognizing and taking advantage of your poor play and decision making. Consider adjusting the difficulty/sliders down to better match your game skill set or learn to play the game smarter.

By the way, what difficulty level were you playing on? If you say HOF sim then what you're seeing is exactly what you get on that level when you play badly and make bad decisions. The game level is cheese by admission from the devs.

I agree with your points as far as their being no momentum code, but he was on Defense here so wasn't him sucking it was his opponent.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

I agree with your points as far as their being no momentum code, but he was on Defense here so wasn't him sucking it was his opponent.

Well that's the second time I've made that mistake when commenting on a video recently.

Hopefully I can take my own advice and learn from my mistakes.

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Were those missed dunks supposed to prove comeback code exists?....shouldn't he have posterized you those 3 times despite you being in the lane since he was down to 'keep the score close'?

Personally I think the 3rd interaction and all like it should be fouls since he got there late....really hope 2k reworks the foul logic next year...

That's what I'm saying, no fouls and late to contest 2 of those dunks. These are the weird things that happen during momentum swings. I'm not saying anything about a comeback code.

Brooke should have made at least one of those dunks.

[Boilerbuzz]

So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

That's what I'm saying, no fouls and late to contest 2 of those dunks. These are the weird things that happen during momentum swings. I'm not saying anything about a comeback code.

This statement is a contradiction. It's the whole point of the thread. If you want to complain about general bugs, get in line. When you attach it to momentum switches, then you are crying comeback code. As someone pointed out with your last video, if there was comeback code, Lopez would have MADE those dunks. Not miss them. Weird things happening in the game is life. We all know this. But they have nothing to do with momentum. But you were trying to say it does until this last post. From your first post, to your Twitter rant, you've been the champion of the Bigfoot Brigade. Make up your mind. Which is it?

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

This statement is a contradiction. It's the whole point of the thread. If you want to complain about general bugs, get in line. When you attach it to momentum switches, then you are crying comeback code. As someone pointed out with your last video, if there was comeback code, Lopez would have MADE those dunks. Not miss them. Weird things happening in the game is life. We all know this. But they have nothing to do with momentum. But you were trying to say it does until this last post. From your first post, to your Twitter rant, you've been the champion of the Bigfoot Brigade. Make up your mind. Which is it?

Well people and the devs cleary said there is no comeback code and that it's a mixture of momentum swings, bugs and whatever else. I'm just going off what they said. Yeah a team misses 3 dunks in a row in the NBA, ok buddy.

[mfixnvvr]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

basketball is a game of runs. i enjoy the fact that no lead is comfortable, as is so in real life.

[Boilerbuzz]

So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Well people and the devs cleary said there is no comeback code and that it's a mixture of momentum swings, bugs and whatever else. I'm just going off what they said. Yeah a team misses 3 dunks in a row in the NBA, ok buddy.

First, I never said that it happens in the NBA. Second, even though I've seen some crazy things in the NBA, I'm sure it has happened at some point. I can remember quite a few sequences where a team has missed a series of really easy, point blank basket attempts. But none of that matters. I didn't say it happens. I said measuring what happens in the game to real life is a fallacy because users try to do more unrealistic **** in a video game than players do in real life. If you're confused by my "is life" statement, I'm saying that weird things happen in games. That's life. Report and get over it. No game is even close to perfect.

But none of that addresses your contradictory post. So are you off of the comeback code pedestal now or not? If you are, why are you still arguing?. What is the point you're trying to make?

[Merize]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Hello! First time posting here.

There is zero code that encourages games to be close or buzzer beater scenarios. These situations, as well as any other run in the game, is just the game playing out naturally with the ebbs and flows of a real basketball game. It's art imitating life. Now I haven't seen you play but there's also the user factor. I'm sure everybody has certain tendencies when they play the game... For example I tend to lose my concentration mid way through the 3rd quarter. So try to be aware of that and you might see a trend in your games that you can change to prevent blowing leads.

From what I understand... so there is something to balance the games? This means that if there is almost no time to end the game and some AI players haven't scored yet... these will do hard shots like turnaround fadeaways or drive in double layups against both the C/PF?

I'm not completaly sure that 3rd quarter momentum shift exist but there is a hard way to balance games. This balance should be natural... this means skill. The team you choose will determine the handicap only. For example in Fifa 2015, good players can use low ranking teams against top tier teams and win.

Skill + good team = 1 1
No skill + good team = 0 1
Skill + bad team = 1 0,5
No skill + bad team = 0 0,5

So if we have 2 skilled players using 2 good teams, this should be a draw but here the difference will be the runs, adapting the strategy in-game and the hot/cold streaks.

Sorry about my english, it's not my native language
Btw, great post!

[LorenzoDC]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Hello! First time posting here.



From what I understand... so there is something to balance the games? This means that if there is almost no time to end the game and some AI players haven't scored yet... these will do hard shots like turnaround fadeaways or drive in double layups against both the C/PF?

I'm not completaly sure that 3rd quarter momentum shift exist but there is a hard way to balance games. This balance should be natural... this means skill. The team you choose will determine the handicap only. For example in Fifa 2015, good players can use low ranking teams against top tier teams and win.

Skill + good team = 1 1
No skill + good team = 0 1
Skill + bad team = 1 0,5
No skill + bad team = 0 0,5

So if we have 2 skilled players using 2 good teams, this should be a draw but here the difference will be the runs, adapting the strategy in-game and the hot/cold streaks.

Sorry about my english, it's not my native language
Btw, great post!

Welcome to OS!

Beluba is saying that the game does not include any code or programming to cause games to balance based on the score or the time on the clock or the quarter of the game. So the answer to your question below is "No."

". . . if there is almost no time to end the game and some AI players haven't scored yet... these will do hard shots like turnaround fadeaways or drive in double layups against both the C/PF?"

I tried to explain how it all works in this comment earlier, which Beluba later pointed out was correct.

[Taer]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

I don't think I'm some Uber player or whatever the hell you're talking about.

If you think an NBA player capable of dunking the ball is gotta rim out a dunk 3 times in a row, then you need help or need to stop playing NBA2K.

Unless his name is Matt Barnes. Oh, wait - that was only 2 times in a row... maybe next year.

[Gosens6]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

There's some real comeback cheese going on in this Bulls Vs. Heat game on TNT.

That 33-8 third quarter was hardcoded to happen. Thats some real BS

[Vni]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

There's some real comeback cheese going on in this Bulls Vs. Heat game on TNT.

That 33-8 third quarter was hardcoded to happen. Thats some real BS

Was just saying in the game thread. So true.

[Gosens6]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Was just saying in the game thread. So true.

Clearly the Bulls players have more badges, so it's messing with the NBA game engine and it's making the Bulls ratings boosted to superhuman levels.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

Clearly the Bulls players have more badges, so it's messing with the NBA game engine and it's making the Bulls ratings boosted to superhuman levels.

Nah. I think the Heat are just lagging out...