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  • zrohman
    Pro
    • Nov 2013
    • 834

    #256
    Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

    Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
    Buddy I'm not being rude but if you want to say someone sucks from a small sample expect some reaction.

    If anyone is being rude it's @Rashdi. Everyone knows this guy is obnoxious.
    From the sample size of this conversation I think he was just pointing out how you lost that quarter. He's stating opinions to help shed light on what happened. From my limited time here I think Rashdi is a well respected OP Sports member. He has been on both sides of the coin so he can give great perspective regarding things we can't always see.

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    • LorenzoDC
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1857

      #257
      Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

      Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
      I didn't want to put emphasis on stopping the outside shot because that's not what his game plain was through 3 quaters. He literally tried to dunk all game.
      Ok, but I didn't actually ask about setting POE to defend the perimeter.

      Maybe you just don't know - do you know the difference between Points of Emphasis and Defensive Settings? If you don't know look at 1:40 in this video.

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      • apollooff320
        Banned
        • Oct 2007
        • 1456

        #258
        Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

        Wait are ppl actually trying to defend the game and say there's no 3rd quarter momentum? It's easy to spot if you play the game everyday for hours espcially if you're up a decent amount. The CPU's offensive and defensive awareness seems to get bumped up and yours go down.

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        • LorenzoDC
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 1857

          #259
          Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

          Originally posted by apollooff320
          Wait are ppl actually trying to defend the game and say there's no 3rd quarter momentum? It's easy to spot if you play the game everyday for hours espcially if you're up a decent amount. The CPU's offensive and defensive awareness seems to get bumped up and yours go down.
          Have you even read the thread?

          Start at about page 20.

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          • JerzeyReign
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 4847

            #260
            Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

            Originally posted by apollooff320
            Wait are ppl actually trying to defend the game and say there's no 3rd quarter momentum? It's easy to spot if you play the game everyday for hours espcially if you're up a decent amount. The CPU's offensive and defensive awareness seems to get bumped up and yours go down.
            Not ONE PERSON has provided FULL GAME EVIDENCE of this happening. Could you please be the first?

            Originally posted by LorenzoDC
            Have you even read the thread?

            Start at about page 20.
            Page 20? Need to support the site, I'm only on page 13
            #WashedGamer

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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27738

              #261
              Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

              Originally posted by JerzeyReign
              Page 20? Need to support the site, I'm only on page 13
              Don't need to be a supporter to switch to 40 ppp.

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              • apollooff320
                Banned
                • Oct 2007
                • 1456

                #262
                Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                Not ONE PERSON has provided FULL GAME EVIDENCE of this happening. Could you please be the first?



                Page 20? Need to support the site, I'm only on page 13
                because know one wants to go through the trouble of making a video for 2 or 3 ppl to watch something ppl that play the know is there. I know it's probably a lot easier for console users but I'm not on console. Also there's millions of videos on youtube that show it anyways.

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                • JerzeyReign
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 4847

                  #263
                  Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                  Originally posted by apollooff320
                  because know one wants to go through the trouble of making a video for 2 or 3 ppl to watch something ppl that play the know is there. I know it's probably a lot easier for console users but I'm not on console. Also there's millions of videos on youtube that show it anyways.
                  If you post it in here, people will watch. Could you link me to one of the million of videos boss?

                  Only asking because I've posted my game in here to prove it didn't exist. I just want to see what guys are talking about as I've never seen it. I know I don't play the game much more differently than others or am I better than others. Would just like to see what guys are talking about.
                  #WashedGamer

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                  • apollooff320
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1456

                    #264
                    Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                    Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                    If you post it in here, people will watch. Could you link me to one of the million of videos boss?

                    Only asking because I've posted my game in here to prove it didn't exist. I just want to see what guys are talking about as I've never seen it. I know I don't play the game much more differently than others or am I better than others. Would just like to see what guys are talking about.
                    ahh...you know you could just go to youtube and type NBA 2K15 right? Which I just did and noticed most videos show up as mycareer. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time looking for a better video but here's a mycareer I clicked on and fast forward to the 3rd qt and watched the magic of 2K cheese system do its work. Yes dude plays arcadish but regardless you get the point
                    Last edited by apollooff320; 03-29-2015, 03:09 PM.

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                    • LorenzoDC
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1857

                      #265
                      Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                      Originally posted by apollooff320
                      because know one wants to go through the trouble of making a video for 2 or 3 ppl to watch something ppl that play the know is there. I know it's probably a lot easier for console users but I'm not on console. Also there's millions of videos on youtube that show it anyways.
                      Show us one. Post the link. One guy in this thread already shared one of his and it actually showed the opposite of what he thought it would show.

                      As this thread started, I believed as you do (also here and here). But then I learned, especially from Beluba (and here).

                      What's actually happening is laid out here.

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                      • ForeverVersatile
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3498

                        #266
                        Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                        Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                        Ok, but I didn't actually ask about setting POE to defend the perimeter.

                        Maybe you just don't know - do you know the difference between Points of Emphasis and Defensive Settings? If you don't know look at 1:40 in this video.
                        lol just because I said the world emphasis does not mean I don't know the difference between point of emphasis and defensive settings. They both tie into each other.

                        Most users do not try to shoot much with rudy Gay and only try to dunk so that's why my defensive settings were set to double team on the drive play moderate on ball and off ball.

                        On ball didn't really matter because i normally don't play off ball defense.
                        PSN: ForeverVersatile
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                        • LorenzoDC
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1857

                          #267
                          Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                          Originally posted by apollooff320
                          ahh...you know you could just go to youtube and type NBA 2K15 right? Which I just did and noticed most videos show up as mycareer. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time looking for a better video but here's a mycareer I clicked on and fast forward to the 3rd qt and watched the magic of 2K cheese system do its work. Yes do plays arcadish but regardless you get the point
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0S4QCPQnDE
                          As has been said a bajillion times, MC is not a sim mode.

                          Where does this happen in quick matches, or in MyGM or MyLeague? Show us the Sasquatch comeback rubber band AI in action.

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                          • LorenzoDC
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1857

                            #268
                            Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                            Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
                            lol just because I said the world emphasis does not mean I don't know the difference between point of emphasis and defensive settings. They both tie into each other.

                            Most users do not try to shoot much with rudy Gay and only try to dunk so that's why my defensive settings were set to double team on the drive play moderate on ball and off ball.

                            On ball didn't really matter because i normally don't play off ball defense.
                            Ok, I just wasn't sure we were starting from the same understanding of the tools available.

                            Well, then you just failed completely for a whole quarter to adapt to the changes in the way your opponent was playing in the fourth quarter. You intentionally kept your defensive game plan the same as it was when you were beating him through three quarters. He adapted, you rigidly didn't, and then you blamed the game for using imaginary hidden juju to engineer a comeback.

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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #269
                              Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                              Originally posted by apollooff320
                              ahh...you know you could just go to youtube and type NBA 2K15 right? Which I just did and noticed most videos show up as mycareer. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time looking for a better video but here's a mycareer I clicked on and fast forward to the 3rd qt and watched the magic of 2K cheese system do its work. Yes dude plays arcadish but regardless you get the point
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0S4QCPQnDE
                              Don't think you're gonna convince many people with that kind of videos honestly. Personnaly I don't really know what to think about the 3rd quarter comebacks. Definately never experienced them against another human. The AI can be pretty cheesy when it comes to rebounding and stuff at times but not sure I agree with the whole 3rd quarter come back theory.
                              Last edited by Vni; 03-29-2015, 03:21 PM.

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                              • apollooff320
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1456

                                #270
                                Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                                Originally posted by Vni
                                Don't think you're gonna convince many people with that kind of videos honestly. I don't really know what to think about the 3rd quater comebacks. Definately never experienced them one v one. The AI can be pretty cheesy when it comes to rebounding and stuff at times but not sure I agree with the whole 3rd quater come back theory.
                                hey I tried...I didn't even watch the video much until after I posted it lolz. That's why I mention it being a mycareer video.



                                I know how to fix this problem...bring back the clutch slider and clutch option to turn off. Don't know why it was removed in the 1st place.

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