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  • STLRams
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    • Aug 2005
    • 2847

    #31
    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

    Originally posted by mauro78
    Thanks guys...my only wish is devs will post into this thread and explain what happened and when will be patched...still not sure how this was overlooked by devs and QA team...
    This is great. Also has anyone sent a message to the devs to let them know that the CPU off/def playcall is set to manual instead of Auto? Also what does the Pre-rotate setting do?

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    • mauro78
      Ion6 Studios
      • Jan 2006
      • 616

      #32
      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

      Originally posted by STLRams
      This is great. Also has anyone sent a message to the devs to let them know that the CPU off/def playcall is set to manual instead of Auto? Also what does the Pre-rotate setting do?
      I sent to devs and also Steve has...

      I didn't touch pre-rotate...just set everything to AUTO
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      • Thetruth9012
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        • Oct 2013
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        #33
        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

        So cpu poe set to auto too right?

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        • mauro78
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          • Jan 2006
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          #34
          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

          Originally posted by Chmielu9123
          So cpu poe set to auto too right?

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          yes exactly! And select a coach plan for every team POE......2K put all team with the same POE.....
          Last edited by mauro78; 11-09-2015, 11:12 AM.
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          • Insight23
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            • Aug 2010
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            #35
            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

            Originally posted by mauro78
            yes exactly! And select a coach plan for every team POE......2K put all team with the same POE.....

            So just select what you think is best for that team? I suppose MyLeague would be beneficial being able to edit POE for all teams without having to do that all the time. I know the initial tweak with the auto/manual would have to be done every time until 2k patches it


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            • mauro78
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              • Jan 2006
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              #36
              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

              Originally posted by Insight23
              So just select what you think is best for that team? I suppose MyLeague would be beneficial being able to edit POE for all teams without having to do that all the time. I know the initial tweak with the auto/manual would have to be done every time until 2k patches it


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              You can in roster editor for every team......they point is POE shoulde be dynamic IMHO...I don't think NBA teams have fixed POE they change them based on who they are playing on daily basis....

              I saw like "neutral" maybe is the best for every team....da Czar can help us on this for sure....but AUTO seems to be also here the best setting for CPU
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              • Insight23
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                • Aug 2010
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                #37
                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                Originally posted by mauro78
                You can in roster editor for every team......they point is POE shoulde be dynamic IMHO



                I mean Teams should select POE based on opponent

                Ahh I see in roster editor. I agree, it should be based on the opponent. I thought that was why coaches mattered so much. It should be tied to the coach.


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                • mauro78
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                  • Jan 2006
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                  #38
                  Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                  Originally posted by Insight23
                  Ahh I see in roster editor. I agree, it should be based on the opponent. I thought that was why coaches mattered so much. It should be tied to the coach.


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                  ...or we can have them based on stats like:

                  - NBA Teams with less point in the paint allowed will have POE set to "Protect Paint"
                  - NBA Teams with less point allowed from outside will have POE "Limit Perimeter Shots"
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                  • Insight23
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                    #39
                    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                    Originally posted by mauro78
                    ...or we can have them based on stats like:



                    - NBA Teams with less point in the paint allowed will have POE set to "Protect Paint"

                    - NBA Teams with less point allowed from outside will have POE "Limit Perimeter Shots"

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                    That could work as well. I like them being tied to coaches & new roster additions. I see the Hornets are shooting more 3's than last year & are somewhat trying to adopt the Warriors playing style. One of Dragic's demands so to speak with resigning with the Heat was more up-tempo play.


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                    • Whomario
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 515

                      #40
                      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                      Since it is not possible to fix this manually in either mycareer or mygm, i really hope the devs somehow get it fixed on their side. The timing of the upcoming patch makes it unlikely i am afraid ...

                      EDIT: Found a workaround for mygm as well, need 2 controllers though:

                      1)On the start game screen choose the opposing team with the 2nd controller and start the game
                      2) pause with your 2nd controller and make changes
                      3) start game again for a second
                      4) Then pause with your main controller (important to keep your main profile assigned to your team)
                      5) live-sim a few seconds, jump back in and voila: Opponent is controlled by the cpu again with the settings still applying
                      Last edited by Whomario; 11-09-2015, 01:34 PM.

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                      • STLRams
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                        • Aug 2005
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                        #41
                        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                        Originally posted by mauro78
                        yes exactly! And select a coach plan for every team POE......2K put all team with the same POE.....
                        I didn't even notice that 2K did that....wow. There seems to be 4 or 5 little simple things for them to correct that will make this game way more dynamic and fun. Now I guess my problem will be should I go through and set every teams POE to auto or should I try to set it to what I believe each team playing style is.

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                        • Impetuous65
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                          • Feb 2015
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                          #42
                          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                          Saw a tweet from the da_czar, he states they are supposed to be off because you bypassing something if you turn them on. Very vague answer and surprising to read that manual was a decision they were full aware of. But seeing how the game play is so much better with auto on is puzzling.

                          "in addition to cpu the Dbl team set to Man. the CPU off/def p'call is set to man as well. game changer"

                          daczar quote

                          It's supposed to be your bypassing something by turning them on that is why they shipped off.
                          Last edited by Impetuous65; 11-09-2015, 05:47 PM.

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                          • mauro78
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                            • Jan 2006
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                            #43
                            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                            Originally posted by Impetuous65
                            Saw a tweet from the da_czar, he states they are supposed to be off because you bypassing something if you turn them on. Very vague answer and surprising to read that manual was a decision they were full aware of. But seeing how the game play is so much better with auto on is puzzling.
                            Can you post the tweet?

                            Are they serious about that?

                            MANUAL = almoust 0 double teams or DIG or help from CPU defense

                            Did they get this?
                            So that means no patch?
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                            • Smirkin Dirk
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                              #44
                              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                              "It's supposed to be your bypassing something by turning them on that is why they shipped off."

                              To be honest, Im not sure what this means.
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                              • Permatron
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                                • Sep 2006
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                                #45
                                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                                Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                                "It's supposed to be your bypassing something by turning them on that is why they shipped off."

                                To be honest, Im not sure what this means.
                                I'm puzzled too. I'm guessing there should be a "." after "be" and a new sentence with "your" being "You're". I just want to understand. If this is the case what are we bypassing? Bad cpu logic?

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