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  • Walt Frazier
    Pro
    • Jan 2014
    • 989

    #136
    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

    Scored 20 points in a quarter just now entirely with post ups for big Al Jefferson.

    No doubles....just occasional digs. Better than before, but still nowhere near as good as setting the CPU to auto.

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    • JohnDoe8865
      Hall of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 9607

      #137
      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

      So do we still need to set them for the CPU and Human or no? I'd assume yes just to be safe?
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      • redux1000
        Banned
        • Aug 2015
        • 209

        #138
        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

        Originally posted by JohnDoe8865
        So do we still need to set them for the CPU and Human or no? I'd assume yes just to be safe?

        Sounds like there are differing opinions. Probably best to just test both out and see which u like better


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        • 32MJ32
          Rookie
          • Aug 2006
          • 83

          #139
          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

          After the patch, I am seeing a lot more double-teaming, regardless of setting it to MANUAL or AUTO for the AI. This is good.

          As has been reported elsewhere, however, there seems to be too much now. My current MyLeague team has Rondo as the PG. He is immediately doubled as soon as he crosses halfway.

          1. I don't understand why anyone would want to double him of all people that early? If anything, you'd want to stand off and make him shoot

          2. Despite moving the CPU D-AWR slider to 99 and messing around with the HELP D strength slider, I am scoring 125+ on like 60% shooting because it's too easy to pick apart.

          Has anyone seen this? Do you have any thoughts on a solution?

          The obvious one is to set Defensive Settings for the AI to NEVER double Rondo... but like.. really? Do we need to coach both teams now?

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          • JoFri
            Pro
            • Mar 2013
            • 1486

            #140
            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

            Originally posted by 32MJ32
            As has been reported elsewhere, however, there seems to be too much now. My current MyLeague team has Rondo as the PG. He is immediately doubled as soon as he crosses halfway.

            1. I don't understand why anyone would want to double him of all people that early? If anything, you'd want to stand off and make him shoot

            2. Despite moving the CPU D-AWR slider to 99 and messing around with the HELP D strength slider, I am scoring 125+ on like 60% shooting because it's too easy to pick apart.
            what mode are u playing i.e. HOF?

            now i got worried. will cpu double my westbrooks? i'm on xbox1 so havent gotten the patch. so far, i manual switch to auto and only KD got doubled once he catches a pass cross half court. westbrooks and kanter attract double team when at the post. the games have been close so far and occassionally score 100 to 110 pts, else around 90+. seldom do i blow out my cpu opponents. i am playing in myleague simulation sliders 10 min per quarter.


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            • Thetruth9012
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1287

              #141
              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

              Im playing quick game because im testing thinks and dbl teams are smart so maybe its bugged in current myleague/mygm or your rondo had stats in season like 30ppg 20ast

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              • sirjam
                MVP
                • Oct 2002
                • 3535

                #142
                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                I think they fixed this. I have xb1 so I don't have the patch and last night I saw MJ being doubled in the post at times.

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                • Impetuous65
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 1451

                  #143
                  Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                  Originally posted by sirjam
                  I think they fixed this. I have xb1 so I don't have the patch and last night I saw MJ being doubled in the post at times.
                  The double teams are fixed, they are fixed, and I have been a big critic about this. I have been playing patch 3 and it works great.

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                  • jsou4646
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1524

                    #144
                    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                    Have you guys seen issues with cpu defenders ignoring who there supposed to cover after patch 3. I like most of what patch 3 brought, but since the patch I'm seeing tons of defenders having no awareness of where the offense player is, or just leaving the offensive player to stand at distance from him. I was playing tweaked hof sliders, but tried stock superstar sliders and saw the same thing. I know it wasn't there pre patch. For example the CPU center is back in plenty of time, my center is coming down the court, instead of meeting him at the free throw line or there about he runs underneath the rim and stands there. I've seen it with other defenders as well. They just lose the offensive player or forget who to cover. It's odd. I don't mind it rarely, but it's way to common during the game. On a positive note the overall defensive rotation is a lot better as well as the the pick and roll defense. Not perfect, but better.

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                    • RyanFitzmagic
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1959

                      #145
                      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                      Originally posted by jsou4646
                      Have you guys seen issues with cpu defenders ignoring who there supposed to cover after patch 3. I like most of what patch 3 brought, but since the patch I'm seeing tons of defenders having no awareness of where the offense player is, or just leaving the offensive player to stand at distance from him. I was playing tweaked hof sliders, but tried stock superstar sliders and saw the same thing. I know it wasn't there pre patch. For example the CPU center is back in plenty of time, my center is coming down the court, instead of meeting him at the free throw line or there about he runs underneath the rim and stands there. I've seen it with other defenders as well. They just lose the offensive player or forget who to cover. It's odd. I don't mind it rarely, but it's way to common during the game. On a positive note the overall defensive rotation is a lot better as well as the the pick and roll defense. Not perfect, but better.
                      That sounds like they might just be sagging off to be in a position to provide help defense.

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                      • sirjam
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 3535

                        #146
                        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                        Originally posted by Impetuous65
                        The double teams are fixed, they are fixed, and I have been a big critic about this. I have been playing patch 3 and it works great.
                        I know they are in patch 3 but I don't have patch 3 and they still seem to be fixed

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                        • jsou4646
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1524

                          #147
                          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                          That sounds like they might just be sagging off to be in a position to provide help defense.
                          No. The centers sag to bout the baseline. Other defenders just look lost.

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                          • mauro78
                            Ion6 Studios
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 616

                            #148
                            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                            Originally posted by Impetuous65
                            The double teams are fixed, they are fixed, and I have been a big critic about this. I have been playing patch 3 and it works great.
                            I got patch 3 last night for PC. It seems that leaving on MANUAL you got double teamed....BTW I still prefer AUTO......I have of course to test it deep
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                            • senhorxxx
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 22

                              #149
                              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                              Originally posted by mauro78
                              I got patch 3 last night for PC. It seems that leaving on MANUAL you got double teamed....BTW I still prefer AUTO......I have of course to test it deep

                              What are your considerations after the patch 3 on PC ??


                              And congratulations on the initial post.

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                              • JoFri
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1486

                                #150
                                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                                i saw double teams coming now thank goodness


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