NBA 2k17 - MyPark

[Jrocc23]

Re: NBA 2k17 - MyPark

Just now seeing this. Not a major deal to me but if they are in fact keeping the parks the exact same way, that definitely rubs me as them being lazy.

Since 2K10, they at least changed the scenery somewhat. And now since they added all this scenery to the Parks, most people would think it would be changed up after every 2K.


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[Tunechid]

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Just now seeing this. Not a major deal to me but if they are in fact keeping the parks the exact same way, that definitely rubs me as them being lazy.

Since 2K10, they at least changed the scenery somewhat. And now since they added all this scenery to the Parks, most people would think it would be changed up after every 2K.


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I think they are going to be the same only difference is that it changes from day and night now


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[SirGaryColeman]

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The park backgrounds look *** and sound ***... and they have for YEARS.

How can a free game like Rocket League have better looking backgrounds?
How can a trash game like NBA Live 16 have better looking backgrounds?
How come giant FPS games that let 80 people play at one time with explosions and planes crashing everywhere have better looking backgrounds?

We are getting $60 DLC - just admit it. If they just changed the rosters, changed the box art, and re-adjusted some sliders (gameplay "mechanics")... you'd still buy it and they know it.

[SirGaryColeman]

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I got 2 things for this, and then I'm done with anything you say, type, etc.

1. The phrase "You're what's wrong with the world" invalidates every comment you make. You can't refute a point so you turn to insults. It makes you look childish.

Are you trying to be ironic? You are insulting him... and you're also saying you're going to plug your eyes after and not respond to anything he says.

I hope you're getting paid to defend a product because only the people getting paid by the company are supposed to be defending it this blindly.

[TGsoGood]

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This is an NBA game first, so it is understandable to address that aspect of the game first.
Have we heard any official park news yet? Anyone with links to aricles about MyPark?

[mmafan18]

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I like the got next spot, it's make the experience better, and more social , I meet a number of people that are good players like that, With matchmaking it wouldn't have been possible


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That's not true. I found some good players on pro am walk on and that was matchmaking.

[SirGaryColeman]

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This is an NBA game first, so it is understandable to address that aspect of the game first.
Have we heard any official park news yet? Anyone with links to aricles about MyPark?

Meanwhile, they're focused on making it an "RPG" with a super lame story that nobody asked for. I think they just love making bad, CG motion capture cutscenes more than they like building games.

And all we know is what we have seen from the leaked video, which is that the parks look the damn same.

[ViolenceFight]

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Are you trying to be ironic? You are insulting him... and you're also saying you're going to plug your eyes after and not respond to anything he says.

I hope you're getting paid to defend a product because only the people getting paid by the company are supposed to be defending it this blindly.

....I'm not defending though. I care about gameplay. I don't care about the background. And if it's an insult to say that referring to me as "what's wrong with the world" because I don't care about the palette swap when I see the other stuff that's been done is childish, then I guess I see why you feel that way.

I try not to trounce another posters opinion. I'll debate it or play devils advocate, but I won't go as far to resort to name calling when I disagree.

The "No further responses" part is because that was going to go no where and could flat out just derail the thread. So at the end of the day, I'm not going to hit a brick wall until.my hand breaks out of pride assuming the mortar will give before my body will.

I thought all of that could've been figured out in the context of all of the post strings, but I have no problem explaining it further, as I do not feel I insulted a person at all. If I did, I'd gladly apologize and admit I overstepped the basic human right we all have to be treated with respect (Which, I'll add, referring to me as "What's wrong with the world" clearly does).

On topic: I maintain that while it's dissapponting to an extent to get palette swaps, it means nothing to me at the end of the day that it's just "night mode". The engine feels great, and after playing the prelude, they could give me a horrible hand drawn court on a piece of paper as long as this engine is there. Because the court isn't important to me.

If it's important to anyone else, that's fine. You're welcome to feel that way. But trust me, I'm certainly not "White knight"-ing for 2K. I know it comes off like that, but please believe if they give me sub par gameplay I'll be right here calling for blood like everyone else.

If there's any more actions of mine you'd like explained, please PM me. I'd rather not derail a thread going off on a tangent explaining my actions. That's not the topic here. Back to My Park discussion.

[SirGaryColeman]

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On topic: I maintain that while it's dissapponting to an extent to get palette swaps, it means nothing to me at the end of the day that it's just "night mode".

If it's important to anyone else, that's fine. You're welcome to feel that way. But trust me, I'm certainly not "White knight"-ing for 2K. I know it comes off like that, but please believe if they give me sub par gameplay I'll be right here calling for blood like everyone else.

The gameplay of the park isn't really in question.... so you're heaping praise on something that nobody really had a huge problem with while ignoring the fact that they didn't improve the things people did have problems with.

The biggest problem with the park is the matchmaking system, which they may have actually improved this year, but it's still going to be the "I got next," which can take up to 30min to find a game if you join at the wrong time.

It doesn't help that while you're waiting 30min for a game, that all you can do is stare at a lifeless, hideous Park that belongs on Nintendo 64.

The sound design is super annoying, which DOES play a part in my experience if I have to see a mental hospital in order to get the sounds of screaming, ghost children riding a roller coaster on a 20second LOOP out of my head.

All I have to say to people like you is that if you expect less, you will get less. Right now there is someone in 2k writing down "guy says he'll pay us $60 even if we just use MS Paint to design the Park" and you know they'd do it if they thought they could... Hell, they basically DID do that.

They know you guys will still pay even if they add nothing new and just do things that should have been released in a Patch or a $20 DLC instead. And how do they know? Because they read posts like this and see they have loyal customers that they can take ADVANTAGE of.

[ViolenceFight]

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The gameplay of the park isn't really in question.... so you're heaping praise on something that nobody really had a huge problem with while ignoring the fact that they didn't improve the things people did have problems with.

The biggest problem with the park is the matchmaking system, which they may have actually improved this year, but it's still going to be the "I got next," which can take up to 30min to find a game if you join at the wrong time.

It doesn't help that while you're waiting 30min for a game, that all you can do is stare at a lifeless, hideous Park that belongs on Nintendo 64.

The sound design is super annoying, which DOES play a part in my experience if I have to see a mental hospital in order to get the sounds of screaming, ghost children riding a roller coaster on a 20second LOOP out of my head.

All I have to say to people like you is that if you expect less, you will get less. Right now there is someone in 2k writing down "guy says he'll pay us $60 even if we just use MS Paint to design the Park" and you know they'd do it if they thought they could... Hell, they basically DID do that.

They know you guys will still pay even if they add nothing new and just do things that should have been released in a Patch or a $20 DLC instead. And how do they know? Because they read posts like this and see they have loyal customers that they can take ADVANTAGE of.

There were plenty of problems with the park gameplay up until patch 6. But even that presented a multitude of problems. The fact that people could use fake pass to double dribble, and the core fundamental things that led to hero ball have all seemingly been fixed. To me, that kills the experience really fast.

I understand if you feel different, but by no means am I legitimately stating that I'm going to settle for less. But let's do some basic deduction? I'm already over paying. I play mostly park. Park is one fraction of a game that is 60 dollars. I play the other modes, but once again, mostly park. So, rationalizing, I'm paying 60 for a full game knowing I only play one mode. However, I get a year's worth of entertainment, so that far exceeds my initial $60. To me, that means that if I enjoy the gameplay, I get more than my money's worth.

In that instance, I love RPGs. But my $60 is better spent on 2k, knowing that I'll get 365 days of play, as opposed to 70 hours out of say, Tales of Vesperia.

In summary, What's big to you is unimportant to me. What's big to me is miniscule in your eyes. This is the same argument the other poster presented, however you're doing it with a few extra sentences. Once again, our problems with the product do not line up, but neither of us is wrong. I will say that your post reads as an extremely angry post, and I have no idea why.

[Mackiaveliko]

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The gameplay of the park isn't really in question.... so you're heaping praise on something that nobody really had a huge problem with while ignoring the fact that they didn't improve the things people did have problems with.

The biggest problem with the park is the matchmaking system, which they may have actually improved this year, but it's still going to be the "I got next," which can take up to 30min to find a game if you join at the wrong time.

It doesn't help that while you're waiting 30min for a game, that all you can do is stare at a lifeless, hideous Park that belongs on Nintendo 64.

The sound design is super annoying, which DOES play a part in my experience if I have to see a mental hospital in order to get the sounds of screaming, ghost children riding a roller coaster on a 20second LOOP out of my head.

All I have to say to people like you is that if you expect less, you will get less. Right now there is someone in 2k writing down "guy says he'll pay us $60 even if we just use MS Paint to design the Park" and you know they'd do it if they thought they could... Hell, they basically DID do that.

They know you guys will still pay even if they add nothing new and just do things that should have been released in a Patch or a $20 DLC instead. And how do they know? Because they read posts like this and see they have loyal customers that they can take ADVANTAGE of.

Exactly my point.. That is the reason why I get frustrated and angry.. When all of US are paying 60$ for a BRAND NEW game and we have people sticking up for 2K.. They certainly taking notes guys, they will leave off features and not update parks if people (even if minority) think its ok.

If you don't care about MyParks.. Or don't think how they look matters (your opinion, others like me think it's very important) then don't even reply, defending 2k won't help you with anything. Let us voice our concerns so they could change things around for the next entry at least.. Smh

They had a year to re-create these parks.. Their most popular mode. No excuses

[Hopsin]

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The real problem is you're going off something that's unofficial. How do you know they won't update the park in a day 1 update? Hell the new rivet park last year came as a roster update.
Maybe they didn't want leakers to leak the park before the game dropped?
Maybe since they had to release the game earlier, they decided 'why don't we sacrifice the park for right now and release the new skins a little later'?

If they can add a new park to the game without a patch.. They can easily wait a month or so then release newly designed courts.

My point is nothing is official. Now if they release official info and the park is the exact same, with no word of updates then rage all you want. But we are jumping to conclusions.


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[Mackiaveliko]

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The real problem is you're going off something that's unofficial. How do you know they won't update the park in a day 1 update? Hell the new rivet park last year came as a roster update.
Maybe they didn't want leakers to leak the park before the game dropped?
Maybe since they had to release the game earlier, they decided 'why don't we sacrifice the park for right now and release the new skins a little later'?

If they can add a new park to the game without a patch.. They can easily wait a month or so then release newly designed courts.

My point is nothing is official. Now if they release official info and the park is the exact same, with no word of updates then rage all you want. But we are jumping to conclusions.


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Well, 1. Because why go through the trouble of making little changes to the current parks (Lights on top, new roller-coasters, night time, etc)?

But I am hoping you are 100% right! I am hoping that they will introduce them in a few months or maybe with the day 1 patch.

They said they was leaving MyPark for last because it's their most used mode and all that. This can either be good or bad. Good if they got some heat and showing some new parks or announcing they coming soon / BAD if they left those news for last on purpose because they copy&pasted the same parks and wanted to hide it in order to get those pre-order numbers up.. Seeing as if they announced this, it would make many people upset and might lose sales.

Time will tell

[SirGaryColeman]

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There were plenty of problems with the park gameplay up until patch 6.
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let's do some basic deduction? I'm already over paying. I play mostly park. Park is one fraction of a game that is 60 dollars. I play the other modes, but once again, mostly park. So, rationalizing, I'm paying 60 for a full game knowing I only play one mode. However, I get a year's worth of entertainment, so that far exceeds my initial $60. To me, that means that if I enjoy the gameplay, I get more than my money's worth.

You said it yourself... gameplay was patched with a free patch. So, why am I paying $60 for something that they can do for free?

We actually both agree that gameplay is the most important. I'm not sure where you stand, but I feel like the gameplay is up to snuff - I like what they have done.

Every time I finish a game in the park, I think to myself "Man, playing in the Park is so fun, if only they'd fix A... B... C.. D... and E.... - it'd be the best game ever."

I've read that MyPark is their most played mode... Social Media seems to mostly focus on Park too, so don't you think they should get around to fixing A, B, C, D, and E by now?

From what we see, all they've done is added things that are Patch worthy and not $60 worthy.

You're argument is that you feel you got your money's worth because you'll play for a year straight. You'd probably keep playing too, except when the new game comes out, all the good people are going to leave and you want to play with them, so you'll fork over $60 to continue playing with them. Visual Concepts banks on this idea.

You should be paying $60 because you're excited about all of the new features, not because you are essentially paying for access to the new (yet very similar) park. You're paying into a $60 annual membership at this point.

At the end of the day, you're cool with paying $60 for a patch worth of fixes and I'm not. I don't care that there's 30 other modes, this mode sells the game for a lot of people, they should start paying more attention to it.

[Hopsin]

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You said it yourself... gameplay was patched with a free patch. So, why am I paying $60 for something that they can do for free?

We actually both agree that gameplay is the most important. I'm not sure where you stand, but I feel like the gameplay is up to snuff - I like what they have done.

Every time I finish a game in the park, I think to myself "Man, playing in the Park is so fun, if only they'd fix A... B... C.. D... and E.... - it'd be the best game ever."

I've read that MyPark is their most played mode... Social Media seems to mostly focus on Park too, so don't you think they should get around to fixing A, B, C, D, and E by now?

From what we see, all they've done is added things that are Patch worthy and not $60 worthy.

You're argument is that you feel you got your money's worth because you'll play for a year straight... it doesn't matter if they only gave you something they could have patched into 2k16, you're paying your $60 to be able to play with everyone who buys 2k17 and that is what Visual Concepts is banking on.

You're cool with paying $60 for a patch worth of fixes and I'm not. I don't care that there's 30 other modes, this mode sells the game for a lot of people, they should start paying more attention to it.

But what other than not changing 3 parks haven't they done?


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