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  • E The Rhymer
    Pro
    • Aug 2015
    • 923

    #391
    Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

    Originally posted by kadzier
    Like many others have said, 2K isn't the only developer to have microtransactions, but even among sports games, they are by far the worse. I've played both FIFA and MLB the Show and they have the microtransaction option too but the natural progression is significantly more fair and requires less grinding than 2k. It's obvious that 2K slowed down character progression from what it used to be-- remember a few years back when your myplayer actually STARTED at like a 70 OVR?


    Can't start at a 70 when the best you can get is a 80. That's why we are 30's [emoji847]


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    • Yesh2kdone
      Banned
      • Feb 2015
      • 1412

      #392
      Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

      Originally posted by ILLSmak
      We should all take a step back and discuss.

      The reason that overall would matter, altho it doesn't matter to me when playing, is that it creates an inflation where you are buying VC that is actually worth less than it seems.

      -Smak
      In 2k14 it cost about 180-200kvc to have a genuine 99ovr. It costs more than that now + dribble moves etc for a genuine 81.

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      • fakeassc
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 371

        #393
        Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

        2K isn't doing anything wrong with the VC and upgrades and overall ratings.

        There are many games out there that push the consumer into spending more.

        That's fine by me. What's not fine is the fact that 2K deceived us with these overall ratings. I know some people are going to say, "Isn't this common knowledge now?". Yes it is, but what it says on the label is what allows you to make your case. If sellers could say, 'You should've known better" for everything, then idk, maybe it'd suck.

        I get 2K wants us to grind for VC, but don't make it so the VC isn't actually giving us the expected effect (a 95 overall). Instead, tell us we're getting an 80 overall and come clean. That's all I want.

        Another thing is the badges. Tell us it's effects. I've seen that lab website floating around testing the effects...but really 2K? Is it something so bad you need to cover it up?

        Surely not, so be transparent about it. That's all I ask.

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        • E The Rhymer
          Pro
          • Aug 2015
          • 923

          #394
          Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

          Originally posted by fakeassc
          2K isn't doing anything wrong with the VC and upgrades and overall ratings.



          There are many games out there that push the consumer into spending more.



          That's fine by me. What's not fine is the fact that 2K deceived us with these overall ratings. I know some people are going to say, "Isn't this common knowledge now?". Yes it is, but what it says on the label is what allows you to make your case. If sellers could say, 'You should've known better" for everything, then idk, maybe it'd suck.



          I get 2K wants us to grind for VC, but don't make it so the VC isn't actually giving us the expected effect (a 95 overall). Instead, tell us we're getting an 80 overall and come clean. That's all I want.



          Another thing is the badges. Tell us it's effects. I've seen that lab website floating around testing the effects...but really 2K? Is it something so bad you need to cover it up?



          Surely not, so be transparent about it. That's all I ask.


          To me there are many things not okay with what's happening rn but my main thing about the OVR is the price. I wouldn't care if I was a 80 even if they didn't say if I didn't have to pay twice as much for it now. To get to an 80 this years plus animations is roughly ~150k and up depending what animations you buy. Not only that but now that 150k VC that used to be 60-70$ is now more like 150$. Why is that? It doesn't take anything for them to give VC so t not like it's them balancing the price for the work it takes to create the VC. Before 40$ would get you a actual 99 with clothes animations whatever you wanted, now 40$ of VC might get you out of that brown shirt and maybe let you pick up a Sig animation or two, but it definitely won't get you to an 80.

          And whatever they are doing with MyTeam rn is just unbelievable. Yes grinding is a pet of any game but making the grind so hard that it is literally impossible to make much progress by just playing the game unless you are a home security guard ( you don't leave your house...ever.) is insane. A Box this year (a basic one because we know damn well we can't afford them theme ones) cost either ~150 hours of playing MTO (and that's IF you are making the max per game every game) or you do a 8 hour shift at walmart or something and get the box and have some money left over. That is not a good business model at all.


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          • Yesh2kdone
            Banned
            • Feb 2015
            • 1412

            #395
            Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

            Originally posted by Yesh2k
            In 2k14 it cost about 180-200kvc to have a genuine 99ovr. It costs more than that now + dribble moves etc for a genuine 81.
            I'll just add that a career key game on HoF could result in over 5k cv. 2k17 it's 1400 tops.

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            • DubyaTO
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 185

              #396
              Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

              Originally posted by E The Rhymer
              I am genuinely upset that sponsorships now give 100 VC. Like seriously there is zero legit reason they dropped it from the 2-7k you could get down to 100 like this is just.... On a lighter note it's now really funny when my agent talk about how much money I'm getting from them, like oh yeah Bruce I'm really raking in the dough rn maybe after the next 5 events I'll be able to afford a knee pad


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              is this true!?

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              • meccs
                Rookie
                • Sep 2010
                • 471

                #397
                Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                Originally posted by DubyaTO
                is this true!?
                I have no idea. Those endorsements always gave me just ~100 VC but I did buy the game a few weeks after release. So no idea what he is talking about.

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                • Factzzz
                  FA
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1655

                  #398
                  Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                  Originally posted by DubyaTO
                  is this true!?
                  Yup, it's true.

                  Absolutely ridiculous decision by 2k.
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                  MLB : Toronto Blue Jays

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                  • meccs
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 471

                    #399
                    Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                    Originally posted by Factzzz
                    Yup, it's true.

                    Absolutely ridiculous decision by 2k.
                    So wait a second. Those endorsements that you do from time to time, that give you like 50-200 VC per event. Those gave you 2k before? When was this patched?

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                    • Factzzz
                      FA
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1655

                      #400
                      Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                      Originally posted by meccs
                      So wait a second. Those endorsements that you do from time to time, that give you like 50-200 VC per event. Those gave you 2k before? When was this patched?
                      The big time companies like doing an endorsement for 2k, Jordan, Mitchell & Ness, Spalding etc used to give 2k-4k vc for every event.

                      Not the small time ones like the Bistro or whatever those small ones are called.

                      And then with patch 1.06, those same endorsements are giving ~200 vc now, even less sometimes.
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                      MLB : Toronto Blue Jays

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                      • meccs
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 471

                        #401
                        Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                        Originally posted by Factzzz
                        The big time companies like doing an endorsement for 2k, Jordan, Mitchell & Ness, Spalding etc used to give 2k-4k vc for every event.

                        Not the small time ones like the Bistro or whatever those small ones are called.

                        And then with patch 1.06, those same endorsements are giving ~200 vc now, even less sometimes.
                        The what now?! I haven't notice that since I'm currently in the playoffs and there are no events but this is insane! What are they thinking?! Holy crap!

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                        • AceDawg5
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 371

                          #402
                          Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                          Originally posted by Factzzz
                          The big time companies like doing an endorsement for 2k, Jordan, Mitchell & Ness, Spalding etc used to give 2k-4k vc for every event.

                          Not the small time ones like the Bistro or whatever those small ones are called.

                          And then with patch 1.06, those same endorsements are giving ~200 vc now, even less sometimes.
                          I haven't had a chance to play post patch 1.06....but if this is accurate I give up on mycareer. The endorsements made those repetitive practices that pay ZERO VC tolerable at least. If those incentives are gone what's the point in signing the endorsement? The fact that a 1st round pick has to pay a 6 game salary for 1 pair of shoes just blows my mind...

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                          • AnanasBingo
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 12

                            #403
                            Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                            Unfortunately, this is true, it just adds up to the overall joke

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                            • E The Rhymer
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 923

                              #404
                              Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                              Originally posted by AceDawg5
                              I haven't had a chance to play post patch 1.06....but if this is accurate I give up on mycareer. The endorsements made those repetitive practices that pay ZERO VC tolerable at least. If those incentives are gone what's the point in signing the endorsement? The fact that a 1st round pick has to pay a 6 game salary for 1 pair of shoes just blows my mind...

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                              And now apparently the face of Jordan, Nike, or whoever you singed with doesn't get paid enough by them to even buy shirt from the store or a pair of socks


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                              • RickyRubio9
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 247

                                #405
                                Re: The VC issue - perfectly put in words

                                The MC endorsements is a message to us "buy VC" if you want to play decently our broken game. No thanks.

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