3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

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  • DakkoN
    All Star
    • Sep 2006
    • 5611

    #181
    Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

    Originally posted by Leasim96
    It's funny because - we're having problems with people hitting 3pts with very low stats.

    Yet when you look at the defensive side - even with high stats in comparison you are much weaker than that 3pt comparison.

    AKA - 60 3pt = consistent makes vs 60/70 lateral = slow

    Just shows how much 2k favors offense in comparison to defense.
    It's because of all these badges that directly impact the shot percentages.. Catch and Shoot, Corner Specialist, Deep Range Deadeye, Limitless Range.. Bunch of badges that kick in basically on every shot that is taken.. While Defense gets nothing.. Defense gets badges that only kick in situationally.
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    • de_jesus
      Pro
      • Sep 2015
      • 527

      #182
      Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

      Based on the most recent tweak backs, shots are falling at an incredibly high rate and defense nor do shot ratings really seem to matter. Shots are falling for both the user and CPU. Personally, not a big fan of the move back. Defense is moving better but do not seem, in my opinion, to have an impact on shot success regardless of whomever is taking shots. Thus, the game is becoming a match of who can shoot the most threes.

      Hopefully, we hear from Mike soon on potential adjustments. Or I'll just adjust the sliders downward significantly for shot percentages.

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      • JustCallMeSleepy
        Rookie
        • Dec 2015
        • 158

        #183
        Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

        Originally posted by DakkoN
        Judging the color of someone's skin by their post about a basketball game, in a post and thread that has nothing to do with skin color? Yeah, that's not racist at all..
        Omg, dude just stop. I play with everyone. I literally love people regardless of color. Anyone that knows me would tell you that. It was said in jest, because of how whiney it sounded. If anyone got hurt by that, oh well. I'm not apologizing for being a racist if I'm not a racist. I play with some guys on here that are white and Asian. We laugh and converse about tons of things that don't even have to relate to basketball. So for you, or for anyone to even insinuate that I'm a "racist" is laughably irresponsible. Get over yourselves, and stop being so damn hurt.
        I like playing with unselfish, High IQ, and competitive people.

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        • DakkoN
          All Star
          • Sep 2006
          • 5611

          #184
          Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

          Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
          Omg, dude just stop. I play with everyone. I literally love people regardless of color. Anyone that knows me would tell you that. It was said in jest, because of how whiney it sounded. If anyone got hurt by that, oh well. I'm not apologizing for being a racist if I'm not a racist. I play with some guys on here that are white and Asian. We laugh and converse about tons of things that don't even have to relate to basketball. So for you, or for anyone to even insinuate that I'm a "racist" is laughably irresponsible. Get over yourselves, and stop being so damn hurt.
          You may not be A racist, but you're definitely making racist generalizations about people. Hell, you just did it AGAIN in that post by saying someone was probably white because it sounded whiney.. "Guys I'm not racist, I swear.. Let me prove it by making a racist generalization."
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          • dynamite450
            Rookie
            • Dec 2011
            • 35

            #185
            Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

            Originally posted by Doogie09
            Ok, I must admit, I'm scared to invest any time into 2k17. Sounds like going back to 2K16 may be the way to go to actually have some NBA fun?

            Or was that version as bad and unenjoyable as this one sounds?
            2K16 was better IMO

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            • hanzsomehanz
              MVP
              • Oct 2009
              • 3275

              #186
              Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

              In 2k16 "Inside" builds couldn't make 3s at this rate even with gold badges. I don't know how we got to this point where it's OK and even fashionable for 60 rated and below players to be proficient shooters across the perimeter and corner 3.

              I run with a 6ft10 LDD SF who cashes greens from the top of the 3. He doesn't even hesitate to pull and he will pull in transition too - this is in Park with a generic jumper -- a jumper that is not even highly acclaimed as 22 and 70 and other notables.

              It doesn't look like there is a return in sight to the days of success respecting skill and attributes and not being favorably more dominant than the other. It's this type of screaming scoring success that doesn't seem to beg much from user skill that is tempting me more to just walk away from the series until I see fit.

              2k16 respected shooting ratings and badges and user skill far better than 2k17 is doing - the same can be said for other past 2k titles that offered a far superior competitive showcasing of skill than 2k17 is doing. I kid you not, it's hard to notice a difference between a SS3 or higher Sharpshooter and someone who is below the Superstar ranks. Open or not, you have a high chance of making a 3 so long as you take the chance because even the contested shots are befriended by the scoring sliders.

              Why are these bronze shooting badges performing at superior levels compared to HOF and Gold defensive badges? This archetype system was introduced for balance to respect strengths and weaknesses but the 3s have become everyone's strength and defense has become everyone's weakness. Glass Cleaners are getting away with greening 3s with stock ratings but how could you survive using stock defensive ratings or is that the route to go: just sacrifice Defense altogether?

              Hopefully Beluba (Mike Wang) will find a middle ground between Saturday and Sunday's tweak: one that will allow 70 and higher rated open 3s to be reliable and 60 and below 70 rated open 3s to be far less consistent.

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              • de_jesus
                Pro
                • Sep 2015
                • 527

                #187
                Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                I literally love people regardless of color.
                I bet

                Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                It was said in jest, because of how whiney it sounded.
                Which is something you attribute to white guys... That's probably racist

                Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                If anyone got hurt by that, oh well. I'm not apologizing for being a racist if I'm not a racist.
                Which is something someone who is racist would say when they can't accept the fact that they are racist or said something racist.

                Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                I play with some guys on here that are white and Asian. We laugh and converse about tons of things that don't even have to relate to basketball. So for you, or for anyone to even insinuate that I'm a "racist" is laughably irresponsible. Get over yourselves, and stop being so damn hurt.
                The forum equivalent of "I'm not racist because I have X number of [insert ethnicity] friends. You are laughably racist. It's hilarious that you would say something racist and then try to back peddle out of it, by saying "Yeah, I said something racist, but it's not that bad since I know white and Asian guys."

                That doesn't stop you from being racist.

                I can't stop laughing at you. This is one of the funniest things I've seen on this forum.

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                • kenn5373
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 612

                  #188
                  Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                  I'm sorry but this game is awful. The overpowered badges have completely ruined this game. Sharpshooters hitting 3's from near halfcourt. Glass cleaners warping the ball into their hands even when their boxed out and in no position to get the rebound. Playmakers dropping defenders even when you're not even moving your stick. As someone who has been a supporter of the series from the very 1st NBA 2k on Dreamcast I hate the direction that they have gone. They went from promoting an actual simulation of basketball to players lighting up with grand badges like it's NBA Jam.

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                  • Ree4erMadness
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 52

                    #189
                    Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                    Its funny reading this thread. Its like people just relied on getting a green instead of learning the release of the players like it used to be. Oh well, I turned the shot meter off the day I got the game and always felt I shot better than the guys I played online, and it hasn't changed. They may win some other way but not by taking smart shots and out shooting me.

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                    • eltyboogie
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 249

                      #190
                      Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                      If you prefer the unrealistically shooting in play now, you just want to be bailed out for leaving shooters open. Even with the easy shooting I never get torched from the 3 point line. You guys should really use the defensive settings.
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                      • jrose57
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3513

                        #191
                        Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                        Originally posted by Ree4erMadness
                        Its funny reading this thread. Its like people just relied on getting a green instead of learning the release of the players like it used to be. Oh well, I turned the shot meter off the day I got the game and always felt I shot better than the guys I played online, and it hasn't changed. They may win some other way but not by taking smart shots and out shooting me.
                        but this year seems hard to shoot the ball honestly, like those signatures shots even i mastered them seems like i just can't knock down shots consistently?

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                        • RS130988
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 152

                          #192
                          Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                          Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                          How? I play with tons of people, and this sounded like a typical, mocking, semi-pretentious comment that, TO ME, sounded like a whiny old white dude.

                          Btw, your post is just as useless.
                          The use of my post was to point out your post was useless. Seems to be a recurring theme with you.

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                          • alabamarob
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3340

                            #193
                            Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                            Went to freestyle this morning and the shooting has been toned down for sub 80 3 point shooters. Seems like he found a middle ground between Sat and monday. Will play a few games to verify.
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                            • CBAT
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 471

                              #194
                              Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                              How would shooting be impacted if they removed hot zones all together? Since they are broken to begin with, resetting when you make a new player and then being tied to your MyCareer, you can play on Rookie and get hot zones from everywhere, which I find ridiculous.

                              If you remove hot/cold zones all together, it would reduce the amount of green releases. 2K Labs has green releases for hot/normal/cold at percentages of 70/30/0. The make percentages on 2k Labs was still only a difference of about 8% between hot and cold, which seems less drastic than what was done for a couple of days post patch. This would be a work around for the rest of the year.

                              Source:

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                              • GrimaceZ7
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 594

                                #195
                                Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                                Originally posted by CBAT
                                How would shooting be impacted if they removed hot zones all together? Since they are broken to begin with, resetting when you make a new player and then being tied to your MyCareer, you can play on Rookie and get hot zones from everywhere, which I find ridiculous.

                                If you remove hot/cold zones all together, it would reduce the amount of green releases. 2K Labs has green releases for hot/normal/cold at percentages of 70/30/0. The make percentages on 2k Labs was still only a difference of about 8% between hot and cold, which seems less drastic than what was done for a couple of days post patch. This would be a work around for the rest of the year.

                                Source:
                                http://www.nba2klab.com/shooting-attributes/
                                They're wrong about green releases in cold zones. You most definitely can get greens in cold zones.

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