3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

[CBAT]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

They're wrong about green releases in cold zones. You most definitely can get greens in cold zones.

I'm more so suggesting that we remove all hot/cold zones and make everything neutral.

[Caelumfang]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

I'm more so suggesting that we remove all hot/cold zones and make everything neutral.

Um, no. You ever tried shooting with any sort of true consistency in all neutral zones? About annoying as hell.

[ryocoola31]

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bro do you ususally play against ai only? hows superstar level??? i play on hof and i find it a bit hard, wanna go down one level for now...

This is how I felt. In practice making a three from the top or sides was terrible on superstar. Worst than ever. I changed my jumpshot with little luck besides mid range. Seems crazy by myself with full bars I can't even make 30-40% at 72 ranking three point shot with no one else around.

I think they should keep it where you cant green above the break 3's. Just increase the percentages on full white meter threes from good shooters. 80 and above.

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[Dual]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Shooter here, I pass from hitting quite well wide open shots in proam alone, green releases most of them. To just hit 50% of them with all amatist badges and 91 in 3pt shoot. Is crazy. Then of course defenders, rebounders etc...all hitting all open shots with 60 or less and no amatist badges. Worst tweak ever. I'm so pissed. Now is all pgs dribbling then shooting or passing to wide open ppl (no shooters of course as is a useless class right now).
Thanks 2k.

[alabamarob]

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Just played the HOF Clippers, and the 3 point shooting felt good. Not perfect, but good. SO FAR it seems to be at a realistic place where ratings matter. Will post again if that changes.

[Jrocc23]

3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

How would shooting be impacted if they removed hot zones all together? Since they are broken to begin with, resetting when you make a new player and then being tied to your MyCareer, you can play on Rookie and get hot zones from everywhere, which I find ridiculous.

If you remove hot/cold zones all together, it would reduce the amount of green releases. 2K Labs has green releases for hot/normal/cold at percentages of 70/30/0. The make percentages on 2k Labs was still only a difference of about 8% between hot and cold, which seems less drastic than what was done for a couple of days post patch. This would be a work around for the rest of the year.

Source:
http://www.nba2klab.com/shooting-attributes/

I don't know if I would want hot zones removed but something has to be done about playing playing on Rookie. It's sad that I am penalized for playing on HOF and others are rewarded for playing on Rookie. Being able to get badges on certain levels (Silver, Gold, HOF) should only be achieved on certain difficulty levels. For example, if I play on Rookie for badges it should only be Bronze. If I am on SuperStar from the jump, it's possible I can get them Gold and so on. I have a lot of suggestions. A lot of things needs to be changed w/ MyCareer. Almost a complete change including letting us change individual attributes.

Back to the hot zones. It's to the point where I don't even play MyCareer w/ my PG anymore because I love playing on HOF but if I play on HOF, most likely I am going to lose some hot zones and that'll affect my shooting heavily online. If my zones aren't red beyond the 3PT (besides the corner), it won't be green no matter what. So I don't even play MyCareer like I would like. Maybe separate the hotzones? You have hotzones for offline and the ones online comes from how you shoot online.


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[Jrocc23]

3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

They're wrong about green releases in cold zones. You most definitely can get greens in cold zones.

He's actually not. It's not as simple as if you have a cold zone you cannot green there. Shooting a mid range and timing it right will most likely be green especially if the person has a good mid range rating. Also the mid range slider/difficulty (Pro, Superstar etc) factors into it. So sometimes it doesn't matter if he has a cold spot or not. I am not sure about mids because they are easy, but I believe if the player has like a 50/60 mid he wouldn't be greening in a cold zone. But I know from 3 it's definitely accurate.

I am shooting 65% from 3 and majority of my shots I make is green w/ my Playmaker but that's because I have all my hotspots now. Weeks ago I had a cold spot on the wing and I could never ever green from there and I have my shot mastered. Why? Because my rating is a 72. It wasn't even cold, it was just grey (Neutral) and it would never be green until I went to MyCareer on Rookie and kept shooting from there until it became a hotspot.


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[3304Life]

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The solution to this Rookie badge and hot zone boosting is to copy what EA did with FIFA years ago, by separating the online and offline characters.

FIFA used to work through 'accomplishments'. Basically stuff like "score 5 goals = +1 shooting" or "dribble past 10 players = +3 dribbling". Sort of like accolades in 2K but once they've been unlocked you can't get the same boost again. It ended up balancing quite nicely. Everybody could have the exact same attributes if they were the exact same position, height, weight and stuff but people were so varied in their creation of their players that it wasn't really a problem, and people naturally grew to 85-93 overall, where there was still always a flaw in their game to stop them being perfect.

The problem was, early on accomplishments were linked to the same character, for online and offline. So all guys had to do was put the game in the lowest difficulty, put their guy in the lineup and score as many goals and do as many tricks and things like that as they wanted to. It didn't even have to be a career mode game. That was the problem they had with online/offline integration, it's too easy to cheat. They fixed it, 2K needs to do the same. Make it so that if you want to be a great 3 point shooter, you have to do so in the environment in which you're playing. Earn your ability in the park if you play in the park, not against terrible AI defense.

It's something I've wanted for a while because I only play offline and I feel like my experience is hindered to balance online guys, and it doesn't even work because the exploit is so easy.


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[killxmike]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

The solution to this Rookie badge and hot zone boosting is to copy what EA did with FIFA years ago, by separating the online and offline characters.

FIFA used to work through 'accomplishments'. Basically stuff like "score 5 goals = +1 shooting" or "dribble past 10 players = +3 dribbling". Sort of like accolades in 2K but once they've been unlocked you can't get the same boost again. It ended up balancing quite nicely. Everybody could have the exact same attributes if they were the exact same position, height, weight and stuff but people were so varied in their creation of their players that it wasn't really a problem, and people naturally grew to 85-93 overall, where there was still always a flaw in their game to stop them being perfect.

The problem was, early on accomplishments were linked to the same character, for online and offline. So all guys had to do was put the game in the lowest difficulty, put their guy in the lineup and score as many goals and do as many tricks and things like that as they wanted to. It didn't even have to be a career mode game. That was the problem they had with online/offline integration, it's too easy to cheat. They fixed it, 2K needs to do the same. Make it so that if you want to be a great 3 point shooter, you have to do so in the environment in which you're playing. Earn your ability in the park if you play in the park, not against terrible AI defense.

It's something I've wanted for a while because I only play offline and I feel like my experience is hindered to balance online guys, and it doesn't even work because the exploit is so easy.


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I'm with you and I couldn't care less about offline mycareer. Separate mycareer and Proam/Park into 2 separate modes. Let people earn badges and attributes for their proam/park characters by playing proam and park. Let people who like an actual MyCareer play mycareer.

It makes no sense to have a HoF NBA career and be in the park and pro am all day. And very few park and proam players ever get a sniff in the NBA... the combination of the two is bad.

[DakkoN]

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I'm with you and I couldn't care less about offline mycareer. Separate mycareer and Proam/Park into 2 separate modes. Let people earn badges and attributes for their proam/park characters by playing proam and park. Let people who like an actual MyCareer play mycareer.

It makes no sense to have a HoF NBA career and be in the park and pro am all day. And very few park and proam players ever get a sniff in the NBA... the combination of the two is bad.

You're telling me that you want to be on the team of the dude going for his deep range deadeye HOF and limitless range badges? That sounds fun. People play like idiots enough as it is. Having to watch people go for their badges while playing like idiots sounds unplayable.

[kenn5373]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Just played a game where a glass cleaner made 5 straight 3's. I really don't understand the logic in this game.

[blazenmusic20]

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The stuff feels like teenage fever Kappa


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[E The Rhymer]

3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

I'm with you and I couldn't care less about offline mycareer. Separate mycareer and Proam/Park into 2 separate modes. Let people earn badges and attributes for their proam/park characters by playing proam and park. Let people who like an actual MyCareer play mycareer.



It makes no sense to have a HoF NBA career and be in the park and pro am all day. And very few park and proam players ever get a sniff in the NBA... the combination of the two is bad.

This has already been called out as a bad idea enough times but I'll do it again. The guys who play this are already toxic players in both gameplay and personality. THE LAST thing 2K need to do right now is encourage guys to take that trash into a online game where they can ruin other people's experiences to get a badge or attribute. I don't know if you have played park this year but there is a badge that you GT for hitting a certain amount of game winners that once you get it increases your odds on future game winners, and I cannot tell you how many times I've seen guys blow games for their team because they wasted 4, 5, or how ever many possession bricking a three trying to get the game winner. And those guys usually are easy to spot as they won't pass even in a double team but will just run side to side until they get a turnover or brick. Or the guy who ignores his team and doesn't care about winning as long as he gets to dribble for 15+ sec and make his guy fall to get the bone collector badge.


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[Breakstarter]

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Just played a game where a glass cleaner made 5 straight 3's. I really don't understand the logic in this game.

He grinded for Corner Specialist, Deep Range Deadeye, Catch & Shoot and Limitless Range. It takes about 3-4 mycareer Games on 12 min quarters to get hotspots on the entire 3 point line strictly shooting from beyond the arc.

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So...58 max 3 pointer on a glass cleaner+all those badges and hotspots?

Man give that man his respect. He worked hard to earn his attributes in Mycareer, and made his Myplayer the way he wanted, why act like you don't know he made those threes? We shouldn't be limited by the archetype we make anyways. Restrictions are bad for nthe entire community. We want more options....not less. Kevin Love is glass cleaner that shoots 3's...Much of a stretch...maybe, but if you consider his style of play in minnesota when he was putting up big numbers and was the focal point of the offense, its not a game changer to see a guy who can rebound, and also be effective from beyond the arc.

[Caelumfang]

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You're telling me that you want to be on the team of the dude going for his deep range deadeye HOF and limitless range badges? That sounds fun. People play like idiots enough as it is. Having to watch people go for their badges while playing like idiots sounds unplayable.

I don't know why people don't understand this....