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  • clinthc0003
    Rookie
    • Sep 2011
    • 147

    #241
    Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

    Originally posted by OGSPORTS
    Yup! It's in practice mode as well.
    Great news! Thanks for listening to us!

    I think this will really help us to understand the game at a much deeper level like you see with other genres (fighting games in particular). It seems like this is the direction you guys are moving towards with the big E-Sports push over the last few years and I think this will really help.

    Thanks!

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    • SonicBoom2040
      Reignman Baby!
      • Jul 2004
      • 219

      #242
      Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

      Originally posted by Marty Funkhouser
      He left him open b/c hes not established as a threat from the 3 yet...the correct read in my opinion

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      • MarkWilliam
        72-10
        • Oct 2012
        • 2325

        #243
        Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

        Re: The Towns clip where he sees the action and then comes over

        Do players with higher defensive awareness swivel their heads more (can't help what you can't see)? Lower IQ players not coming over in time or at all?

        If so, this may actually be my favourite addition! Something I didn't think would be possible in a video game for a long time...

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        • Marty Funkhouser
          Rookie
          • Aug 2016
          • 191

          #244
          Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

          Originally posted by SonicBoom2040
          He left him open b/c hes not established as a threat from the 3 yet...the correct read in my opinion
          Theres a big difference between leaving someone open and dashing to the paint.

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          • NewBreed1
            Banned
            • Aug 2017
            • 414

            #245
            Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

            Loving everything I'm reading so far. But I gotta say, I pray the lighting in these videos aren't what we're going to see on our TVs when the game comes out.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #246
              Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

              Originally posted by SonicBoom2040
              He left him open b/c hes not established as a threat from the 3 yet...the correct read in my opinion
              Just so there's clarification on this----

              The issue is NOT about leaving a player open.

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              • Kstat
                Pro
                • Sep 2015
                • 584

                #247
                Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                Originally posted by Marty Funkhouser
                Theres a big difference between leaving someone open and dashing to the paint.
                You can't do both...

                There's no risk to leaving Simmons open so why not do it immediately before the screener can roll? Shuts everything down early.

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                • Marty Funkhouser
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 191

                  #248
                  Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                  Originally posted by Kstat
                  You can't do both...

                  There's no risk to leaving Simmons open so why not do it immediately before the screener can roll? Shuts everything down early.
                  Playing off your man because hes bot a threat from the perimeter does not mean mad dashing to the paint.

                  Rondo, Rubio, etc cant shoot but that doesnt mean the players guarding them are going to leave them 16 feet open, overhelp on D and give them a wide open lane to the basketball

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #249
                    Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                    It's obviously there for a reason, and not what people feel it is in the past.

                    Otherwise, he wouldn't have explained the defensive setting and pointed this very thing out in the blog.

                    Back to the fundamentals

                    The Adaptive Coaching Engine has changed the game in the sports gaming industry. However, we believed that in order for this system to go to the next level, we really needed to get back to the fundamentals and knock out some deficiencies that have hindered this system. With that said, Shawn, the outstanding engineer that I work hand in hand with, gave me complete control over the major defensive AI decision making. This could be anything from the defender’s hip and facing angle, to what speed and stance he is in. From there, like a real film session, we broke down every cut or action that has hurt us in previous years and figured out the best “basketball” solution on how to solve it.


                    PLAY SET AND ACTION RECOGNITION!

                    Yes, you read this correctly. Your CPU teammates now have the ability to recognize a set and action a team is running and adjust on the fly! This is one of the biggest things you hardcore X’s and O’s players will recognize immediately. This also plays a substantial role in ACE. Every team knows how hot a player is and can adapt according to the set or action the players are in. For example, you will see certain teams change their pick and roll coverage in a 1-4 spread situation with Steph Curry or Kyrie Irving as opposed to Russell Westbrook. You will also see defenders play tight or back up significantly in pinch post or rub actions.

                    Here is a high pick and roll look that Philly has been successful with early in the game. Notice how Porter adapts his gap coverage in this situation by leaving Simmons open and daring him to knock it down from deep.

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #250
                      Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                      Sweet baby Jesus that was amazing to read.


                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                      #RespectTheCulture

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                      • Housh123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1173

                        #251
                        Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                        Originally posted by Kstat
                        You can't do both...

                        There's no risk to leaving Simmons open so why not do it immediately before the screener can roll? Shuts everything down early.
                        Except when you look like a bum for giving an NBA caliber guard a wide open layup or lane to the rim he can use to find a pass. Also if you happen to play against a lineup with 5 shooters that would just be a bad gameplan

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                        • Baebae32
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 880

                          #252
                          Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                          If Otto Porter started that possession where he ended it (along the lane line) I think it would accomplish the same objective (provide help on the dribble drive, force a kick out to a poor shooter) and by him being along the lane line, the optics would be better instead of him leaving the ball side corner to go to the paint before fultz gets any real penetration. Just my opinion

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                          • GoDucks1224
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2622

                            #253
                            NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                            Originally posted by ffaacc03
                            OKC was third in post touches with 19.7, good to know inside contacts seem to be the right people to base them off

                            Hey just to let you know, Scott Brooks hasn't been OKC's coach in 3 years. He's the Wizards coach. Billy Donovan is in Oklahoma City.
                            Last edited by GoDucks1224; 08-29-2017, 10:00 PM.

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                            • PelicansFan23
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 20

                              #254
                              Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                              What does this mean for Pro Am teams who use AI players? In my experience, teams with 2 AI players on their team have a significant advantage. The AI players grab every loose ball, most rebounds, play fantastic defense, basically play nearly perfectly where as players are prone to making mistakes, not timing things right, etc. After reading your blog it sounds like teams that use AI players will be at even more of an advantage when used in Pro Am. Ideally if like to see pro am only for teams of 5 real players. If you don't have 5 you can run park or walk on.
                              Last edited by PelicansFan23; 08-30-2017, 12:11 AM.

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                              • skinnybonez
                                MVP
                                • May 2003
                                • 1459

                                #255
                                Re: NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

                                Chris Paul went on a diet? his model is more frail than Parker ha

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