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  • Mikelopedia
    The Real Birdman
    • Jan 2008
    • 1523

    #106
    Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

    Originally posted by LorenzoDC
    But if you turn hard cap off doesn't the CPU start signing guys for insane numbers?
    No youre thinking of the salary cap. Teams would still have to abide by salary cap rules and exceptions.
    Die hard Heat and Dolphins fan since '89

    PSN: MiiikeMarsh

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    • joosegoose
      Pro
      • Oct 2014
      • 889

      #107
      Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

      Originally posted by Mikelopedia
      The problem is the NBA doesnt have a hard cap the way 2k defines it. I recommend turning the hard cap off. The Wolves would absolutely be able to sign Jimmy B no matter what holds exist (IRL just a matter of what the owner is willing to spend)
      Definitely, but even if there were a 'hard cap' it would be silly to be less than the luxury tax line.

      I'm more concerned about the 'double cap hold' thing, where a player's cap hold is additive with his contract offer. Imagine this same thing, but I was under the cap (say, $60mil not counting my cap hold for Butler) and trying to sign a free agent in addition to a guy like Butler. I would have to:
      • Sign Butler, then the UFA (assuming the UFA doesn't sign elsewhere while I hold off)
      • Sign the UFA, then Butler (assuming Butler does not sign elsewhere while I hold off)
      • Ignore the UFA, and leave myself with plenty of cap space to use on 2nd tier players after the marquee guys sign


      I'll absolutely be turning off the hard cap in future saves, but still want to make sure the cap holds are working properly.

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      • Whomario
        Pro
        • Oct 2010
        • 515

        #108
        Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

        Originally posted by davez
        In progress, but much harder to track down and fix than the ones that made it into today's patch. But the items from this thread are being investigated by Tim...
        Good to hear. I feel the latter especially is essential to get corrected, because otherwise it totally changes the complexion of the game mode (RFA not working for the group of players it was essentially designed for)

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        • Barncore
          Formerly known as Barnsey
          • Aug 2003
          • 1337

          #109
          Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

          Thanks for the updates dave.

          Can somebody here who has good knowledge about the ML bugs give a run down of how things are after the recent patch? What bugs still exist? Trying to decide if they're things i'm willing to put up with, if so i'll dive into my first ML.

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          • davez
            Rookie
            • Jul 2002
            • 248

            #110
            Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

            Originally posted by Mikelopedia
            Whats up Dave,
            So is the issue of the CPU renouncing rights (even with everything set to manual in a 30 team controlled MyLeague), as well as other CPU overriding decisions (such as declining to extend QO's) still being looked into?
            Yes, still being looked into.
            Dave Zdyrko
            NBA 2K MyLEAGUE/MyGM/MyCAREER Producer & Designer
            Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
            Novato, CA, USA

            Official MyGM / MyLEAGUE / MLO 2K19 Wish List

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            • LorenzoDC
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 1857

              #111
              Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

              Originally posted by davez
              Yes, still being looked into.
              Dave, I'm posting this here from another thread as I have not seen this issue before. This guy is on PS4 and this is with patch 3 installed, but he seems to say it was happening even before the patch:

              Originally posted by SirPrado_
              I was doing a test simulation with the Knicks in MyLeague and at the end of the season it said that Kristaps played in 115 games and started in 82 of them. This was the case for alot of players in the MyLeague not just KP.

              Also, when i simulated to the next season (2018-19) it said that Kristaps was on Portland, and that Willy Hernangomez was on Utah when they clearly werent. and the stats were also not the same as they were in the season that i literally just simulated.

              I did a couple more Test simulations and this is happening a lot.
              Is anyone else experiencing this?


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              I figured if it was here it would be easier for you and Tim to find and keep track of.
              Last edited by LorenzoDC; 09-26-2017, 08:34 PM.

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              • davez
                Rookie
                • Jul 2002
                • 248

                #112
                Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

                Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                Dave, I'm posting this here from another thread as I have not seen this issue before. This guy is on PS4 and this is with patch 3 installed, but he seems to say it was happening even before the patch:



                I figured if it was here it would be easier for you and Tim to find and keep track of.
                Adding it to the list...
                Dave Zdyrko
                NBA 2K MyLEAGUE/MyGM/MyCAREER Producer & Designer
                Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                Novato, CA, USA

                Official MyGM / MyLEAGUE / MLO 2K19 Wish List

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                • davez
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 248

                  #113
                  Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

                  Originally posted by joosegoose
                  Definitely, but even if there were a 'hard cap' it would be silly to be less than the luxury tax line.

                  I'm more concerned about the 'double cap hold' thing, where a player's cap hold is additive with his contract offer. Imagine this same thing, but I was under the cap (say, $60mil not counting my cap hold for Butler) and trying to sign a free agent in addition to a guy like Butler. I would have to:
                  • Sign Butler, then the UFA (assuming the UFA doesn't sign elsewhere while I hold off)
                  • Sign the UFA, then Butler (assuming Butler does not sign elsewhere while I hold off)
                  • Ignore the UFA, and leave myself with plenty of cap space to use on 2nd tier players after the marquee guys sign


                  I'll absolutely be turning off the hard cap in future saves, but still want to make sure the cap holds are working properly.
                  Looking into this (cap hold and contract offer both being counted), as well. Tim says he specifically made sure that exact thing was working and says the code looks right, so we'll have to try to dig deeper and reproduce it internally.

                  Also looking into why the hard cap would be lower than the luxury tax threshold (and whether or not it's just a display issue or not).

                  Will also try to determine if we want to raise our hard cap threshold.
                  Dave Zdyrko
                  NBA 2K MyLEAGUE/MyGM/MyCAREER Producer & Designer
                  Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                  Novato, CA, USA

                  Official MyGM / MyLEAGUE / MLO 2K19 Wish List

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                  • jeremym480
                    Speak it into existence
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 18198

                    #114
                    Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

                    Originally posted by davez
                    Adding it to the list...
                    Davez, one more thing to add... It looks like CPU controlled teams don't assign players to the G-League or sign players 2-Way contracts after the 17/18 season.

                    Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think there's a way to sign newly drafted players to 2-way deals? In real life, I think the majority of 2-way contracts will be 2nd Rounders going forward and as far as I know, the only way to do that in the game is not sign them in the rookie signing stage, then sign them at the beginning of the new season instead.

                    If possible, could you guys add where a player of a late 1st or 2nd Round Draft pick that meets a certain OVR or Potential or some criteria could automatically be signed to a 2-Way deal that way the CPU teams keep the players that they draft?
                    My 2K17 Boston Celtics MyLeague

                    Alabama Crimson Tide
                    Green Bay Packers
                    Boston Celtics

                    New Orleans Pelicans

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                    • Mikelopedia
                      The Real Birdman
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1523

                      #115
                      Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

                      Originally posted by davez
                      Looking into this (cap hold and contract offer both being counted), as well. Tim says he specifically made sure that exact thing was working and says the code looks right, so we'll have to try to dig deeper and reproduce it internally.

                      Also looking into why the hard cap would be lower than the luxury tax threshold (and whether or not it's just a display issue or not).

                      Will also try to determine if we want to raise our hard cap threshold.
                      Dave why is there a hard cap just curious? As Ive described before in my CBA corrections blogs last year and the year before, a "hard cap" as used in 2k, does not exist in the CBA.

                      The hard cap that exists only comes into effect when a team uses an exception that they would not be able to use if they were over the luxury tax apron.

                      Example: If a team who is over the cap but under the luxury tax uses their non-taxpayer MLE, they are "hard capped" and not able to exceed the tax apron. This also happens when a team acquires a player via sign and trade, as taxpayers are not aloud to use S&T.

                      Off topic but on the note of Mid Level exceptions, they are cap holds as well. Teams must renounce them to get under the cap. Teams that use cap space only end up having the Room Exception and do not have MLE's (nontaxpayer or taxpayer). They still have the Bi-Annual exception, as every team has this unless they are in the tax or used it the prior year.
                      Die hard Heat and Dolphins fan since '89

                      PSN: MiiikeMarsh

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                      • wodi
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 752

                        #116
                        Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/being force-renounced and RFA not functio

                        So I just got the game, just messed around, added two expansion teams (with an expansion draft) and the teams won 51 and 46 games.

                        This simulation engine is so ****ed.....

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                        • Whomario
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 515

                          #117
                          Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/being force-renounced and RFA not functio

                          Originally posted by wodi
                          So I just got the game, just messed around, added two expansion teams (with an expansion draft) and the teams won 51 and 46 games.

                          This simulation engine is so ****ed.....
                          Have you even taken a look at their rosters ? This likely has little to do with the Sim Engine and more with the Expansion Teams mortgaging their future by spending big during the first Free Agency (which is of course and issue as well)

                          It also has nothing to do with the topic at hand, so i'd recommend opening a seperate topic for this.

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                          • wodi
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 752

                            #118
                            Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/being force-renounced and RFA not functio

                            This is the first season..... no free agency yet

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                            • Barncore
                              Formerly known as Barnsey
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1337

                              #119
                              Re: MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/being force-renounced and RFA not functio

                              I've always thought the sim engine is decent. Need more information about the expansion teams to figure that out...

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                              • wodi
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 752

                                #120
                                MyGM/MyLeague : Bird Rights not working/displaying and RFA not functioning

                                Haha it's season 1 and it's two expansion teams, both had better records than the Celtics.

                                Best players are I believe JJ redick and Kenneth faried.

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