On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

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  • Housh123
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1173

    #31
    Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

    Originally posted by ImInThis
    Maybe it's just me and my team? I cannot for the life of me stay in front my opponent. I've been playing 2k for years and I play on ball 80% of the time so I know what I'm doing. I know what good defensive settings are.

    This game is horrid when playing on ball and everyone I play does nothing but turbo all game. I was able to shut these turbo cheesers down back in NBA 2k16. Now? It's just pathetic, I can barely stay on them going to the rim


    You are playing bad D bro accept it

    The defense in this game is amazing.


    If you played on ball that much I have to assume you did nothing but try and get those push back animations. You can't do that this year without a way higher strength rating than the other guy so you actually have to stay in front of your man this year without animation help and ppl are slowly finding out they aren't that good when the CPU doesn't warp them in front of the ball handler


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    • 3304Life
      MVP
      • Sep 2016
      • 3002

      #32
      Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

      I love that you get punished for being lazy. Recovery D in the last few years was too good. You could go under a screen for an elite shooter and still get back in the play even with poor defensive attributes. I've already found myself playing to old habits and being lazy around screens and had knockdown shooters like Bogdanovic get hot because I wasn't defending well. The reward for playing proper defense is higher and when I make my guy miss, either by getting a hand up or by forcing contact in the paint, I feel good about it. Even forcing a good perimeter shooter to put the ball down and drive into the paint I feel good because interior AI defense is so much better this year that I feel I've done a good job forcing them into a tough shot.

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      • abcfinest
        Rookie
        • Nov 2011
        • 69

        #33
        Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

        The park the defense is good. Offline the defense is good. But myteam multiplayer the defense is broken. You slide to much. Your cpu teammates leave there defenders wide open for 3s like previous 2ks. I'm great at defense. I love the defense in this game but in myteam mode it's horrible right now. It has to be a glitch that will be patch soon because it's unplayable right now if you play man to man defense like I do. If you play off ball then you can tolerate it.

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        • abcfinest
          Rookie
          • Nov 2011
          • 69

          #34
          Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

          Originally posted by ImInThis
          Maybe it's just me and my team? I cannot for the life of me stay in front my opponent. I've been playing 2k for years and I play on ball 80% of the time so I know what I'm doing. I know what good defensive settings are.

          This game is horrid when playing on ball and everyone I play does nothing but turbo all game. I was able to shut these turbo cheesers down back in NBA 2k16. Now? It's just pathetic, I can barely stay on them going to the rim



          Yeah it's only myteam mode where the defense is terrible right now. Not in the park, not offline but I only experience all this sliding and non existing defense playing online in myteam mode. It's has to be a glitch because in the park defense is great and offline defense is great.

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          • kobe2theMAX
            Rookie
            • Oct 2014
            • 281

            #35
            Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

            Nothing wrong with defense at all.

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            • Pappy Knuckles
              LORDTHUNDERBIRD
              • Sep 2004
              • 15966

              #36
              Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

              If you can't play defense it's because you're not good at it. The defense is outstanding. Keep grinding, man.

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              • yungmeaks
                Rookie
                • Jun 2012
                • 393

                #37
                Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                I'm so impressed with defense now after getting used to it lol. Even in Park! With my 6'2" Playmaking/Shooting 67 OVR PG, I held my own against a 86 OVR 6'4" Slashing/SC PG. Contested a lot of his shots and forced misses. But then again, he could've very well just have been garbage lol

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                • leoribas3
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 410

                  #38
                  Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                  yall should honestly delete this thread.

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                  • ksuttonjr76
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 8662

                    #39
                    Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                    Honestly, I think the defense (post scoring) is so good this year that I'm going to take a chance with a Defending, Post-Scoring center in MyCareer. I never cared about the mode before, and most times than not I mainly ended up creating some type of SF due to it being the most "overused" position.

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                    • Graphik
                      Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 10582

                      #40
                      Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                      Defense is great this year. If you have a good defender you will have no trouble staying in front this year. The lateral quickness seems to be matched with the offense this time around. Years past, you basically waited for that bump animation and glided past your defender. This year, the defender can boost and cut off the angles and push you back and you can feel the difference in great defenders like Butler and M.Smart v. Harden or Melo. Players like Butler who are great perimeter players can close gaps faster and force a dribbler to a side and if you lay off the steal button, you'll make your opponent make a mistake by way of force.

                      Plus the recovery time for defenders who lose their assignment is better. If you swing the ball around the court, the defenders do a much better job at switching.

                      Steal spamming is gone too. If you're the type of player who attempts a steal at least 2-5 times every possession or when any player touches the ball, you will be punished. One good dribble move on a steal attempt creates just enough space to play make. Last year, you could spam the steal button and recover on defense just as fast with little penalty for reaching fouls.
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                      • Hustle Westbrook
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 3113

                        #41
                        Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                        Jeez the game's only been out for 3 days. Get in some practice and learn the new mechanics for a week at least before dismissing it lol.
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                        • ImInThis
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 380

                          #42
                          Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                          Originally posted by rhein77
                          Exactly! Everyone in the league is not an elite level defender. I do MUCH better defensively with guys that specialize on defense.

                          Defense is more system based and not so much everyone playing Bruce Bowen style defense. There are only a select few that are like that.

                          These types of post are the reason the game gets patched into obscurity smh...


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                          This is what I figured in the back of my head. I play with the bulls and their defense isn't good at all this year. On 2k16 I always put Butler on Stephen Curry and shut him down 85% of the time.

                          My bad for the overreacting. I should know better that not every player can defend.

                          People need to stop assuming I used push back animations for good defense. I DO NOT use animations to play defense, I DO NOT play up close

                          The Problem was, it felt like me defender was in quick sand when it came to defending. When the game feels like it's lagging, something is wrong. But I suspect that's because of player stats as in not all can defend well
                          Last edited by ImInThis; 09-18-2017, 10:50 AM.

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                          • dilladawg4
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 422

                            #43
                            Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                            Originally posted by ImInThis
                            Maybe it's just me and my team? I cannot for the life of me stay in front my opponent. I've been playing 2k for years and I play on ball 80% of the time so I know what I'm doing. I know what good defensive settings are.

                            This game is horrid when playing on ball and everyone I play does nothing but turbo all game. I was able to shut these turbo cheesers down back in NBA 2k16. Now? It's just pathetic, I can barely stay on them going to the rim
                            3 words...go play LIVE. Seriously guys...will this game ever be to y'all standards...2K can do no right in you guys eyes.

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                            • dilladawg4
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 422

                              #44
                              Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                              Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
                              Every basketball game before this one has fooled people into believing they had good on-ball defense thanks to over physical contact animations that let them ram into the ball handler.

                              The on ball defense in this game is groundbreaking. Lateral quickness matters, angles matter, acceleration matters, strength matters.

                              My suggestion to you would be to give ball-handlers more space than you're accustomed to. This will allow you to react to their moves, while staying between them and the rim. If someone makes an aggressive move, use the quick Shuffle to keep up what do sow sparingly because a quick counter can make you pay.
                              Go play LIVE

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                              • isdatyt
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 672

                                #45
                                Re: On Ball Defense is HORRIBLE!!

                                Yeah if you have a bad defender, you HAVE to hide them. I ended up switching Kyrie onto Melo and letting Ron Artest guard the other guys Kyrie at the end of the game because he was eating me alive. 17 points through 3 quarters, he went 1-9 in the 4th and two FTs.

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