Simnation are y'all still around?

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Simnation are y'all still around?

Listen to this man... he knows ALL the veteran moves

Yes he does, but ARob I will need some video proof. I literally just jabbed in scrimmage mode for 45 seconds and not even a flinch! Lol

[23]

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Yes he does, but ARob I will need some video proof. I literally just jabbed in scrimmage mode for 45 seconds and not even a flinch! Lol

Probably gonna hit you with that prelude cheese. Gonna make you proud

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[Guard-ian]

Re: Simnation are y'all still around?

Interesting discussion lads, I've always felt like smoother defense cannot be properly penalized in 2k basketball when the appropriate players are involved (I am thinking on Online face to face games), but definitely we are improving in that point...

Cheers! ;-)

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Simnation has already got some nice nuggets and we havent even heard from Czar or OG yet.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Simnation are y'all still around?

How would simnation feel about an official document we put to the devs prior to the beginning of every development cycle? We use a thread to compile a list of issues and suggested improvements (with accompanying video evidence).

Send it as a PDF or digital compendium. Get our own logo, elect a representative or a small team to act as our official voices. (Lorenzo? Vannwolf? 23? Bama rob? Jeebs?)

That way we will filter out the ideas that arent great and be able to present a list of 5-10 doable things that are nicely compiled and articulated.

Simnation can't compete in terms of loudness, but we can get our points across better.

[roadman]

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Guys, I'm going to translate this for #simnation, to say something more directly than Czar can probably say.

I have no inside knowledge, but this most likely means that Czar and OG have lost some internal battles trying to shape the tuning of game play to be more sim, and they need us to be effective in providing an external counterweight to the online voices of arcade play.

I suggest that #simnation people be very focused and intentional in using social media and snippets of video to make their points this year, showing where the game does not look or play like basketball. Posting here is not enough - we have to use social media.

Use youtube if that's your thing, but be sure to do the following, whatever you do:

1. post to twitter
2. use hashtag #simnation
3. include @beluba in your post
4. be constructive, not hateful or angry
5. monitor the #simnation hashtag and retweet each others' posts

Our numbers don't have to be massive if we are well enough organized, loud and consistent. You know the saying about the squeaky wheel. We gotta squeak.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/923790-twitter-campaign-offline-sim-guys.html

Just wanted to give everyone a quick shout out for this method. The offline sim crowd for Madden gathered on a thread similar to this in January of this year and developed a strategy of who, what, when, etc..... 264 post in that thread alone.

I briefly mentioned this to Vann in a PM a few months ago. The key on Twitter is to develop your idea(s) here in this thread and have people back that idea with either a like, retweet or better yet, further dialogue.

One of the things we were proud of was the fact that on 3rd and long plays in Madden, the CPU would either call 4 Verticals, all shots or draw/PA plays. So, we asked the playbook guru, Anthony White why this was occurrying. He said it was something they were looking into. We were happy it was something they were looking into and Millennium confirmed this June it was a bug that prevented the CPU to call the proper plays.

The key point is to make sure people back up your statement or you are just a lone ranger out there. I got into once with someone on Twitter just like Vann did on something that was sim in nature vs what "they" wanted. This is the type of audience we are dealing with outside of OS and they do have influence and numbers.

Good luck folks, we thought it was positive because it had some positive results. Don't get down or feel bad if a developer doesn't respond.

Edit- I forgot to mention something about Twitter to make it all work, you need to jot down in this thread your Twitter names and then make sure you follow one another. That way you will be able to give likes, retweets and responses to the idea (s) presented to the developers. One suggestion at a time will work better than a laundry list. You only have 250 words on Twitter.

[jclazaris84]

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The triple threat works for me vs the cpu. If they dont bite i just just it and explode out of it for a drive. Especially off of a post up.

i'd have to see a video of the cpu reacting to your jabs and pump fakes, because i get absolutely nothing. not even the slightest shuffle on occasion. r u sure we're on the same page here, because the triple threat stance isn't a part of the post-up.

[alabamarob]

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i'd have to see a video of the cpu reacting to your jabs and pump fakes, because i get absolutely nothing. not even the slightest shuffle on occasion. r u sure we're on the same page here, because the triple threat stance isn't a part of the post-up.

My bad for being confusing. When i recieve the ball in the post area, i am able to faceup and use a triple threat move to get to the rim.

Additionally, the clu rarely bites on the jab step so i jab and then explode out of the triple threat for an easy drive. However, i have been able to use T. Prince and Bazemore to jab step and the defender backs up to give space for a 3 ball. Mostly out of the corner.

I will try to get you some tape Vann.

[vannwolfhawk]

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My bad for being confusing. When i recieve the ball in the post area, i am able to faceup and use a triple threat move to get to the rim.

Additionally, the clu rarely bites on the jab step so i jab and then explode out of the triple threat for an easy drive. However, i have been able to use T. Prince and Bazemore to jab step and the defender backs up to give space for a 3 ball. Mostly out of the corner.

I will try to get you some tape Vann.

I will feel bad having you waste 5-6 hours of your day trying to get the cpu to bite on a jab on HOF. Lol

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Simnation are y'all still around?

How would simnation feel about an official document we put to the devs prior to the beginning of every development cycle? We use a thread to compile a list of issues and suggested improvements (with accompanying video evidence).

Send it as a PDF or digital compendium. Get our own logo, elect a representative or a small team to act as our official voices. (Lorenzo? Vannwolf? 23? Bama rob? Jeebs?)

That way we will filter out the ideas that arent great and be able to present a list of 5-10 doable things that are nicely compiled and articulated.

Simnation can't compete in terms of loudness, but we can get our points across better.

I think this is a great idea! A sim nation only wish/want/need list. Could break it down to each mode... Question is when do they need it by?

[Smirkin Dirk]

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I think this is a great idea! A sim nation only wish/want/need list. Could break it down to each mode... Question is when do they need it by?

Czar has said wishlists need to be in by Dec/Jan. I'll keep on this.

[OfficialQbN]

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Guys we can all agree that custom playbooks should be a thing in MyTeam, right ?


I cant be the only one here that likes to use different plays from different teams of different eras...


Why not just have it be that you unlock plays from set playbooks for use in a custom playbook ? After all MyTeam is supposed to be an all-time mix n match experience, why shouldn't that extend to plays ?

[jclazaris84]

Re: Simnation are y'all still around?

My bad for being confusing. When i recieve the ball in the post area, i am able to faceup and use a triple threat move to get to the rim.

Additionally, the clu rarely bites on the jab step so i jab and then explode out of the triple threat for an easy drive. However, i have been able to use T. Prince and Bazemore to jab step and the defender backs up to give space for a 3 ball. Mostly out of the corner.

I will try to get you some tape Vann.

thanks for clarifying. i myself haven't had any luck at all using jabs or pump fakes out of the triple threat. since driving and getting past ur man is so easy in 2k18, i really see no use for the tt moves since they don't create space for a jumpshot. now i realize that these moves shouldn't be 100% reliable to create that space, but defenders should at least shuffle their feet or 'stay on their toes' so to speak instead of just crowding u like a statue.

since you've had some luck with those players u mentioned, maybe the cpu reactions and gap space are tied in with ratings or tendencies somehow, or some crazy mathematical variable that we have no idea about. or maybe 2k tried implementing a new system similar to that last year but couldn't finish it properly so the tt game was left hanging. who knows, sure hope it's more fine-tuned this year though.

[alabamarob]

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i'd have to see a video of the cpu reacting to your jabs and pump fakes, because i get absolutely nothing. not even the slightest shuffle on occasion. r u sure we're on the same page here, because the triple threat stance isn't a part of the post-up.

I will feel bad having you waste 5-6 hours of your day trying to get the cpu to bite on a jab on HOF. Lol

thanks for clarifying. i myself haven't had any luck at all using jabs or pump fakes out of the triple threat. since driving and getting past ur man is so easy in 2k18, i really see no use for the tt moves since they don't create space for a jumpshot. now i realize that these moves shouldn't be 100% reliable to create that space, but defenders should at least shuffle their feet or 'stay on their toes' so to speak instead of just crowding u like a statue.

since you've had some luck with those players u mentioned, maybe the cpu reactions and gap space are tied in with ratings or tendencies somehow, or some crazy mathematical variable that we have no idea about. or maybe 2k tried implementing a new system similar to that last year but couldn't finish it properly so the tt game was left hanging. who knows, sure hope it's more fine-tuned this year though.

I pulled if off within my first 60 seconds on the game. HOF settings vs. CPU. Trae vs Murry. No slider adjustment. I put it up on my twitch page also. Alabamarob


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[vannwolfhawk]

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I pulled if off within my first 60 seconds on the game. HOF settings vs. CPU. Trae vs Murry. No slider adjustment. I put it up on my twitch page also. Alabamarob


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Lol! Subtle but can’t argue at least a reaction... Man, now your going to make me post the video of me doing it for 45 seconds (no exaggeration) with no reaction. I tried it for 30 minutes and didn’t get that at all... lol Tell me you agree it could be better implemented though? I still think like the guy who pulled off the crab dribble more of an anomaly...