The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

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Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

so to be clear, in your opinion - the speed has changed for offline mode, correct?

Not by much... its not anything that messed up what they had going on.

Now i can't speak for the park...those guys complained about super speed, which Mike then said he changed it back to what it was around release.

[Hellquist]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

I don't have 2K20, but remember the old days where you buy a game and that's the game you got? No patches, no schizophrenic palm readers, no nothing. What you see is what you get. This is a spoiled generation. 3 days and the game is already changing. This is why I hated playing the recent 2Ks because you have to relearn the game every 2 weeks because of the patches.

Like someone else said, these devs work hard all year and then they turn around and change what they wanted the game to be because of these YouTube and Twitter losers. Where's the integrity and confidence in your product?

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Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

I don't have 2K20, but remember the old days where you buy a game and that's the game you got? No patches, no schizophrenic palm readers, no nothing. What you see is what you get. This is a spoiled generation. 3 days and the game is already changing. This is why I hated playing the recent 2Ks because you have to relearn the game every 2 weeks because of the patches.

Like someone else said, these devs work hard all year and then they turn around and change what they wanted the game to be because of these YouTube and Twitter losers. Where's the integrity and confidence in your product?

I think youre okay if you get it right now.

Offliners havent seen any drastic game killing changes.

[zello144]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

This always happens every year. The launch is always tough. This year seems to be the toughest or the most toxic. Give it a week or two maybe a month and people will calm down.

[RogerDodger]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

I'm not blaming Youtube and Twitch streamers per se, but a lot of this outcry seems to have been generated via YouTube creators with huge followings who mobilized once the rallying cry was sent. I wonder if they don't seem a little guilty now if 2k devs are taking themselves offline as a consequence.

Everybody seems to want the game THEY personally want. I've been critical of the changes to MyGM because it limits choice in an offline environment where choice is king, but that's different to whining online about some 7-5 center who should be allowed to run as fast as a PG or not being able to nail every shot just because you think you timed it perfectly in an online situation where you can't make the rules to suit yourself.

[Junior Moe]

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I'm not blaming Youtube and Twitch streamers per se, but a lot of this outcry seems to have been generated via YouTube creators with huge followings who mobilized once the rallying cry was sent. I wonder if they don't seem a little guilty now if 2k devs are taking themselves offline as a consequence.

Everybody seems to want the game THEY personally want. I've been critical of the changes to MyGM because it limits choice in an offline environment where choice is king, but that's different to whining online about some 7-5 center who should be allowed to run as fast as a PG or not being able to nail every shot just because you think you timed it perfectly in an online situation where you can't make the rules to suit yourself.

I cant remember who, but before release someone jokingly said to say a prayer for Mike and the other devs because the Twitter crowd was coming. I'm sure the guys will be fine but this is the other side of that social media influenced pregame hype. They're a different animal.

It's one of the reasons I'm so adamant about not getting too deep into online anything. I dont want how much fun I can have with a game to be predicated on others, or game balance, or servers. Those people buy the game like me though, and their wants should be considered and acted on. There are about 12 million 2K players. You're never gonna make 1/10th of that user base happy.

Personally, 2K20 is the best 2K by a mile. Offline is great. MyLeague still needs a little work but I can live with it. I was still enjoying 2K19 ML. The gameplay is selling the point this year. I have gotten in a few online games with my little bro and it's great. I have also been enjoying the hell out of Gears 5 (and a little Madden). I figure by the time I wrap up Gears most of the dust will have settled.

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[Guard-ian]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

Not sure if it is due to the patch but yesterday, playing a MyLeague Online game, I noted too much speed, sliding, suctions animations and in general it was difficult to control the players, many times I felt like a co-pilot but not the driver anymore...

Bizarre feeling, hopofully it will be a fluke and not the norm from now on. ;-)

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

Ya think they could communicate better? Unless I haven't found them, we got a patch and no official notes.

Here's your chance to make a difference...

https://chp.tbe.taleo.net/chp04/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=GAMES2K&cws=68&rid=3370

[WTF]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

RE: Czar

We should have never given him to the "world."

Those damn #ArcadeNation, MyPark playing suckas don't even KNOW Czar forreal.

RIP to my dude. We hope you one day rise like the Phoenix

Yep, Twitter is an absolute cesspool. That's what I was telling EA back in the day, when they mentioned forums basically becoming obsolete when it comes to garnering feedback. Twitter is an absolute cesspool where people can shout nonsense at devs nonstop. It's ignorant man. I'd rather have a developed community, ala OS, where ignorance is kept in check by Mods, where devs can come and interact without having to put up with the constant whining and bickering. There's a difference between constructive criticism and what goes on with Twitter.

Czar will be alright, I'm sure, but you have to hate to see one of our own get off of Twitter because of these dudes.

[Mister_G]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

It's kind of wild that Ronnie and the official 2K account have gone dead silent since #FixNBA2K20 was trending. This is the worst way to address these issues. There needs to be some communication.

[Iasounis]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

Here's your chance to make a difference...

https://chp.tbe.taleo.net/chp04/ats/...ws=68&rid=3370

Will look into it, just for kicks.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: The uproar on Twitter about 2K20

Yep, Twitter is an absolute cesspool. That's what I was telling EA back in the day, when they mentioned forums basically becoming obsolete when it comes to garnering feedback. Twitter is an absolute cesspool where people can shout nonsense at devs nonstop. It's ignorant man. I'd rather have a developed community, ala OS, where ignorance is kept in check by Mods, where devs can come and interact without having to put up with the constant whining and bickering. There's a difference between constructive criticism and what goes on with Twitter.



Czar will be alright, I'm sure, but you have to hate to see one of our own get off of Twitter because of these dudes.

Honestly, I see this as the beginning to a new approach to how game companies, businesses, and celebrities handle social media going forward. Multiple companies and celebrities are getting burned by the cesspool of Twitter. I'm expanding this topic a little bit, because I had a brief thought about how the Star War fanatics attacked the woman who played Rose in the Star Wars movie.

It's getting to the point where people will just post anything about someone or something on Twitter, because there is NO REPERCUSSIONS for their actions. I'm sorry, but I'm in the camp that says that people DON'T have to put up with that BS. It's like people forgot how to be civilized on the internet, and it's only getting progressively worse.

If I was 2K Sports, I would have all developers close or change their Twitter accounts respectively to get them out of the public eye. If the masses want to discuss the game, then they need to head to the game forums respectively. From the game's perspective, I think it's time that they "expanded" the tutorials and help information. If the masses have troubles with the game, call/tweet Customer Support.

[ksuttonjr76]

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It's kind of wild that Ronnie and the official 2K account have gone dead silent since #FixNBA2K20 was trending. This is the worst way to address these issues. There needs to be some communication.

Who cares about communication!?

At this point, they know they got to fix the game. Historically, we know they drop patches after launch. If they're NOT aware of what's going on with the game from a technical standpoint, I'd be completely shocked. They're working on it...period. Whether or not they address everything in the next patch will be a different story.

[EarvGotti]

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Idk about yall but the thought of paying $100 for a game you enjoy on day 1, then having it changed to something completely different because of Twitter is wild to me.

Patches and updates from the game devs themselves are obviously fine because they are simply looking to improve the game. But to have kids on Twitter literally dictate the mechanics of the game to favor them having "fun"...nah fam. I aint having it.

If thats where we're headed with these 2K games, then i might be done sooner than later. Money talks at the end of the day.

[ataman5]

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Speaking from someone who had the game before the day 1 or anything else, it definitely was changed.

I didnt see any funny business until after that last speed buff made, and while it wasnt park speed i know it affected something like sliding defenders out the way.

I had made a clip previous to that to show you how great the bumping between offense and defense was... look at how the defender moves his feet instead of getting slid out the way.. it was a moving screen, illegal screen called on the cpu




Anyway its not messed up or unplayable or anything, just faster, which of course will negate some things.

Good to know that someone else has also saw it and i'm not crazy,lol. Because i'm most certain that sliding has gotten more, and footplanting is a bit hit/miss now. Also the players weigh less than before, especially bigs.

I'm a player who is really onto these little nuances happening, i want weight, i want to feel who i control.

Idk about yall but the thought of paying $100 for a game you enjoy on day 1, then having it changed to something completely different because of Twitter is wild to me.

Patches and updates from the game devs themselves are obviously fine because they are simply looking to improve the game. But to have kids on Twitter literally dictate the mechanics of the game to favor them having "fun"...nah fam. I aint having it.

If thats where we're headed with these 2K games, then i might be done sooner than later. Money talks at the end of the day.

Word!