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  • Dbaja22
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 1434

    #136
    Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

    Originally posted by vetmin
    Its hard to come up with sexy Raps trades that are actually realistic. I dont see a path to Beal that doesn’t involve Siakam. Lowry > Murray right now, but Lowry is an old man on an expiring, so it’d only make sense if they’re actively interested in dumping Murray, which I dont think they are. A realistic return for Lowry is probably a good pick or a few solid picks + some players that are useful / have some potential but are ultimately pretty expendable to the other team. Maybe Ntilikina + Knox/Randle + protected 1st from NYK, or Richardson/Thybuille + 1st from Philly? Maybe those could be the skeletons for some trades
    Appreciate that , thanks .

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    • marshdaddy
      MVP
      • Mar 2017
      • 1629

      #137
      Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

      Originally posted by Dbaja22
      Appreciate that , thanks .

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      I would add to this that I don’t know that I would make VanVleet untouchable. OG and Siakam I understand, but VanVleet is the type of player you have to give up if you’re going for a player like Murray and/or Beal. I agree with the other reply though that Murray you’re only getting if Denver has given up on him, which I don’t think they have.

      You might be able to get Beal in a three-team trade but straight up is unlikely, since the assets you’d give up are Lowry and VanVleet (in my opinion) which don’t have any value for Washington with John Wall. So maybe find a third team with a hole at point guard that has a player of need/fit for Washington. I’d say a trade with the Lakers could work that sends Kuzma to Washington but they don’t have the contracts to match Lowry’s incoming, but think along those lines if you’re trying to land him.


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      • Dbaja22
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 1434

        #138
        Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

        Originally posted by marshdaddy
        I would add to this that I don’t know that I would make VanVleet untouchable. OG and Siakam I understand, but VanVleet is the type of player you have to give up if you’re going for a player like Murray and/or Beal. I agree with the other reply though that Murray you’re only getting if Denver has given up on him, which I don’t think they have.

        You might be able to get Beal in a three-team trade but straight up is unlikely, since the assets you’d give up are Lowry and VanVleet (in my opinion) which don’t have any value for Washington with John Wall. So maybe find a third team with a hole at point guard that has a player of need/fit for Washington. I’d say a trade with the Lakers could work that sends Kuzma to Washington but they don’t have the contracts to match Lowry’s incoming, but think along those lines if you’re trying to land him.


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        Yeah I just really love Vanvleet , he is amazing off the bench . I decided I'm sticking with Lowry as we try and win the championship back to back . My targets are Donovan Mitchell as he is very unsettled in Utah , John Collins , Victor Oladipo (He was rumored to be a real possibility IRL) C.J McCollum , and the one I'm probably going to end up pulling the trigger on is bringing in Khris Middleton . Middelton is my my number 1 target and if that don't work it's not that hard to get Oladipo . How realistic these are idk, but at the end of the day it's our own story and anything can happen. Especially when ur the current defending Champs
        And I can never pull of any 3 team trades , soooo difficult to make all parties satisfied .
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        • marshdaddy
          MVP
          • Mar 2017
          • 1629

          #139
          Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

          Originally posted by Dbaja22
          Yeah I just really love Vanvleet , he is amazing off the bench . I decided I'm sticking with Lowry as we try and win the championship back to back . My targets are Donovan Mitchell as he is very unsettled in Utah , John Collins , Victor Oladipo (He was rumored to be a real possibility IRL) C.J McCollum , and the one I'm probably going to end up pulling the trigger on is bringing in Khris Middleton . Middelton is my my number 1 target and if that don't work it's not that hard to get Oladipo . How realistic these are idk, but at the end of the day it's our own story and anything can happen. Especially when ur the current defending Champs
          And I can never pull of any 3 team trades , soooo difficult to make all parties satisfied .
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          What would be the deal to bring in Middleton?


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          • marshdaddy
            MVP
            • Mar 2017
            • 1629

            #140
            Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

            I’m working on a trade in the 2023-24 season, but wanted to get the opinion of plausibility of all parties agreeing. Records are below and who they would receive.


            Bucks (36-17, 1st in East)
            Warriors (32-18, 2nd West)
            Trail Blazers (22-29, 3.5 back from 8)

            Bucks receive Dame (93ovr), Carsen Edwards 77, Yogi Ferrell 76, Daniel Theis 76

            Trail Blazers receive Pat Connaughton 80, Isaiah Stewart 77 (21yo Center), Draymond Green 75, 2026 GS unprotected 1st, 2027 MIL unprotected 1st

            Warriors receive Jrue Holiday 86, Isaac Bonga 77


            Purpose of the deal is for the Trail Blazers to cut salary as they’ve been an 8-10 seed basically every year and have no cap flexibility. They have him and Tobias Harris (acquired for McCollum) as the only players making more than $15 million but are still $40 million over the salary cap. Dame has one year left on his deal worth $54 mil. So they get back young players and picks.

            But they don’t want the long-term money (4yrs, $150m) in Jrue’s deal (acquired in separate deal sending Eric Bledsoe and the 2020 Pacers pick which ended up being 4th overall to New Orleans), so the Warriors take on that long-term cap hit in exchange for Draymond’s $27m expiring.

            I don’t doubt Dame would say **** no, because he loves Portland, so this would be more of a move by Portland saying we love you but you’re not competing and we don’t have any moves we can make to bring in talent so out of respect we’ll send you to Milwaukee, who would be upgrading at the point guard position as they need a title with Giannis in his prime.

            Jrue and Dame are both 33, but Jrue obviously has more long-term money owed so the Bucks would be getting some flexibility, but would likely re-up Dame anyway.


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            • zten11
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 2383

              #141
              Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

              Originally posted by Mackrel829
              Post your questions about potential 2K20 trades here!

              The following is a system that I like to use when considering trades in my MyLeagues. It centers around an Asset based system that I use to give value to players and use to attempt to create balanced and/or realistic trades.

              Essentially each trade piece is assigned an Asset Value which determines its value in a trade.

              Superstar/All-NBA players = 3 assets
              High end starters = 2 assets
              Promising young players = 1 asset
              Low level starters/role players = 0.5 assets

              1-5 draft pick = 2 assets
              5-15 draft pick = 1 asset
              15-30 draft pick = 0.5 asset
              2x second round draft picks = 0.5 assets

              Bad contracts 1-2years = -1 asset
              Bad contracts 3+ years = - 2 assets

              Using the above values, you can attempt to balance trades by making the total Asset Values match on either side.

              For example, trading for Damien Lillard as a 3 asset player would require a promising young player and 2 lottery picks for roughly even value.

              It's obviously up to the user to use the system at their own discretion in order to create realistic trades, particularly in 30 team user control MyLeagues.

              For example, if a team is desperate for a particular trade to go through (LA Clippers and Paul George), they might overpay in total Asset Value to ensure that it does.

              Similarly, if a team is desperate to get rid of a player, they might accept less total Asset Value than the player is worth (TJ Warren and the Suns).

              Finally, if there is an added narrative element that would affect the trade one way or another, this might also influence the total Asset Value. For example, a team would likely have to give up more than 3 assets in the Damien Lillard example because of his loyalty to Portland and his importance to the team.

              Hope this is helpful for people and adds a fun/interesting element to their MyLeagues.
              It's way more than 3 assets these days for a superstar player. I would say about 5 at a minimum.
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              • zten11
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 2383

                #142
                Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                Originally posted by marshdaddy
                I’m working on a trade in the 2023-24 season, but wanted to get the opinion of plausibility of all parties agreeing. Records are below and who they would receive.


                Bucks (36-17, 1st in East)
                Warriors (32-18, 2nd West)
                Trail Blazers (22-29, 3.5 back from 8)

                Bucks receive Dame (93ovr), Carsen Edwards 77, Yogi Ferrell 76, Daniel Theis 76

                Trail Blazers receive Pat Connaughton 80, Isaiah Stewart 77 (21yo Center), Draymond Green 75, 2026 GS unprotected 1st, 2027 MIL unprotected 1st

                Warriors receive Jrue Holiday 86, Isaac Bonga 77


                Purpose of the deal is for the Trail Blazers to cut salary as they’ve been an 8-10 seed basically every year and have no cap flexibility. They have him and Tobias Harris (acquired for McCollum) as the only players making more than $15 million but are still $40 million over the salary cap. Dame has one year left on his deal worth $54 mil. So they get back young players and picks.

                But they don’t want the long-term money (4yrs, $150m) in Jrue’s deal (acquired in separate deal sending Eric Bledsoe and the 2020 Pacers pick which ended up being 4th overall to New Orleans), so the Warriors take on that long-term cap hit in exchange for Draymond’s $27m expiring.

                I don’t doubt Dame would say **** no, because he loves Portland, so this would be more of a move by Portland saying we love you but you’re not competing and we don’t have any moves we can make to bring in talent so out of respect we’ll send you to Milwaukee, who would be upgrading at the point guard position as they need a title with Giannis in his prime.

                Jrue and Dame are both 33, but Jrue obviously has more long-term money owed so the Bucks would be getting some flexibility, but would likely re-up Dame anyway.


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                I know Milwaukee is arguably the best team in the NBA...but Dame is not leaving Portland for that city. I'll just leave it at that.
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                • zten11
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2383

                  #143
                  Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                  I can't go back to all the trades, but some of the notable changes I made somewhere in between 2020 and 2022 were as follows (and some of these involved free agency):

                  - Chris Paul to ORL
                  - Buddy Hield to OKC
                  - DeMar DeRozan to MEM
                  - CJ McCollum to MIA
                  - Victor Oladipo to UTA
                  - Gary Harris/assets/picks to CLE
                  - Spencer Dinwiddie to MIL
                  - Kyle Lowry to DAL
                  - Jrue Holiday to LAC
                  - Bogdan Bogdanovic to ATL
                  - Kyle Kuzma to SAC
                  - Aaron Holiday/LaMarcus Aldridge to BKN
                  - Evan Fournier to CHI
                  - Marcus Morris/assets/picks to NO
                  - Devonte Graham/Myles Turner to HOU
                  - Jarrett Allen to IND
                  - Kevin Love to DEN
                  - OG Anunoby/assets/picks to DET
                  - Anfernee Simons/Eric Paschall to NY
                  - Blake Griffin to TOR
                  - Fred VanVleet/Kendrick Nunn/Derrick Jones/assets/picks to POR
                  - Derrick Rose/Terrence Ross/Nikola Vucevic/Tristan Thompson to LAL
                  - Harrison Barnes to PHX
                  - Frank Ntilikina/Moe Harkless/Lauri Markkanen to GS
                  - Tony Bradley/assets/picks to SA
                  Last edited by zten11; 07-09-2020, 02:45 PM.
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                  • marshdaddy
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1629

                    #144
                    Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                    Originally posted by zten11
                    I know Milwaukee is arguably the best team in the NBA...but Dame is not leaving Portland for that city. I'll just leave it at that.


                    Like I said the thought process is that the Blazers are not competitive and with Dame at 33, it’s more of a move to say thanks for what you’re doing but we aren’t winning. Almost like KG being dealt to the Celtics.


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                    • Dbaja22
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 1434

                      #145
                      Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                      Originally posted by marshdaddy
                      What would be the deal to bring in Middleton?


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                      Yeah that didn't happen lol I have no idea what it would take to bring in Khris Middleton . Due to the salary cap Lowry would need to be going the other way , so my thought was Lowry , Powell and a #1 draft pick? Or Lowry , Powell and Hollis-Jefferson? Just have mercy on me if this is horrible and not fair for the the bucks lol This is my 1st time playing 2k since 2k13 and I've never used any guidelines to make more fair and realistic trades . But overall Lowry , and a very dope Powell who is showing he can be a real star and a #1 draft pick sounds fairish to me . I just tossed Lowry and Powell on the trade finder block to see who I can get , and there's no shortage of amazing players being offered up by the CPU . So for the time being I haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet . But I'm a fan of Middleton and would love to have him and Siaka play together

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                      Last edited by Dbaja22; 07-10-2020, 04:40 PM.

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                      • Knickerbocker91
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 3231

                        #146
                        Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                        Originally posted by marshdaddy
                        Like I said the thought process is that the Blazers are not competitive and with Dame at 33, it’s more of a move to say thanks for what you’re doing but we aren’t winning. Almost like KG being dealt to the Celtics.


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                        With Dame being a 93 OVR and neither of the 1st round picks Portland is receiving in return being lottery picks, the Blazers aren't getting enough back in the deal.

                        If Stewart is the main part of Portland's compensation, then they should get 2 1st rounds from Milwaukee in addition to Golden State's 1st.

                        Curious as to why Milwaukee would want 3 PGs in that trade though, especially since Dame is going to play 28-35 minutes I'd assume.
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                        • marshdaddy
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1629

                          #147
                          Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                          Originally posted by Knickerbocker91
                          With Dame being a 93 OVR and neither of the 1st round picks Portland is receiving in return being lottery picks, the Blazers aren't getting enough back in the deal.



                          If Stewart is the main part of Portland's compensation, then they should get 2 1st rounds from Milwaukee in addition to Golden State's 1st.



                          Curious as to why Milwaukee would want 3 PGs in that trade though, especially since Dame is going to play 28-35 minutes I'd assume.


                          All fair points. I didn’t pull the trigger and the Bucks managed to win the title, so it worked out for them. I agree that the Blazers would’ve wanted more back, but Dame is 33 so it’s more of an aging star and no cap flexibility situation.


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                          • marshdaddy
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 1629

                            #148
                            Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                            Originally posted by Dbaja22
                            Yeah that didn't happen lol I have no idea what it would take to bring in Khris Middleton . Due to the salary cap Lowry would need to be going the other way , so my thought was Lowry , Powell and a #1 draft pick? Or Lowry , Powell and Hollis-Jefferson? Just have mercy on me if this is horrible and not fair for the the bucks lol This is my 1st time playing 2k since 2k13 and I've never used any guidelines to make more fair and realistic trades . But overall Lowry , and a very dope Powell who is showing he can be a real star and a #1 draft pick sounds fairish to me . I just tossed Lowry and Powell on the trade finder block to see who I can get , and there's no shortage of amazing players being offered up by the CPU . So for the time being I haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet . But I'm a fan of Middleton and would love to have him and Siaka play together

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                            That’s not an awful trade, but if I’m Milwaukee I’d probably tell you to give me OG as well as Powell, Lowry and the first. If I’m losing an All Star 3, I want a guy to replace him and Powell isn’t that. The Bucks are also relatively deep at the guard position with George Hill and Eric Bledsoe, and DiVincenzo and Connaughton at the 2. I’m not sure of Milwaukee’s appetite to dealing Bledsoe this early in his deal. Lowry is the better playoff performer but I think Bledsoe will be more valuable for longer.


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                            • marshdaddy
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1629

                              #149
                              Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                              Would be interested in some input on a potential trade. I'm using CelticLG's roster and as the Warriors acquired James Johnson using Iguodala's TPE. From there, I went to flip Johnson (76 ovr) for Aaron Gordon (77 ovr). Despite the Magic agreeing with the deal, it felt cheap. So the final deal that was accepted was the following:

                              ORL receives
                              Johnson (76 ovr)
                              Looney (75 ovr)
                              Bowman (73 ovr)
                              '22 2nd

                              GSW receives
                              Gordon (77 ovr)

                              Curious on any opinions on the likelihood a deal like that goes through, or if I'd have to throw in anything else.

                              Similarly, looking to acquire Myles Turner if anyone has thoughts on a deal, again with the starting point being Johnson's contract.

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                              • Dbaja22
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 1434

                                #150
                                Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

                                Do u guys ever switch a players position to up his value ? I'm sure most of u probably already known this , but I'm new and again i didn't know this and curious on ur thoughts . Is this a cheap move to get an advantage ? Or is it acceptable

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