Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

[Housh123]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I'm a perfectionist. If people are playing a style that does not resemble ball but succeeding, I'll find my place and do what is necessary. It's not even ragey or stressful, it's just depressing.



People do so many things that are so passive aggressive and selfish. It's not just that people suck.


I'm cool w getting my 800 vc and moving on but watching people get in time out battles or whatever, it's just toxic. It almost needs a level or moderation.



I think they should at least add in some heavy teammate penalties to certain actions. Like if you time someone out who is gonna take an open shot, drive, whatever, you should lose like 3 teammate grades. Same with 3 seconds. If you just run into the paint and get 3 sec. Or if you start Rollin the ball inbounds. Or maybe they should add teammate grade and then sportsmanship rating that shows up how much you flop, call time outs on people, call for ball from cpu every time after you make people quit etc.



I'm generally not arguing directly with people I'm trying to explain they are wrong about blaming people. We lose as a team.


And quitting haha you still lose so why quit. It's not Randoms in general, ya'll are all Randoms yknow haha. I've almost never had beef with anyone on a forum. It's just really toxic behavior. It's not bball related at all. Well a little but that's not what makes it lame. You don't run into that level stuff even in real life or I haven't. Not your own team. People might tell me not to shoot or to pass when they think I'm messing up, but they're not gonna to into full melt down mode. And if there is stuff to discuss, it's for after the game.



Dudes are using the game to torture people when they dont get their way. It should not be allowed.



-Smak

That is my wish as well. Player segregation based off skill. Or separate recs/parks that you have to be a certain rep to enter. Imo that should’ve been a thing for years. In fighting games when you rep up they try and only match you with other players with similar rep.

If i run 2k i should be able to enter a superstar 3 and above Rec. there is no reason i should have to run with rookies. In real life when you are next and building your team you can choose not to play with the obvious bums.


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[loso_34]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Ya'll let these random stress you waaaayyyy too much man, lol

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You must not play with randoms often. Randoms have gradually became worse since 2k18. I know guys that were walk on warriors years ago who can’t play without a few teammates now lol.

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I do like how this has turned into another version of our PNO thread, where it really is just catharsis and venting. And I'm okay with that. You sometimes need that outlet.

I see a therapist every Wednesday for 2K





jk

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

After more games of Rec, safe to say the skill gap is even worse in next gen. These demigod builds make gods out of low iq trash. Total opposite land.



Edit: #1000th response in this thread

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

It's a pandemic so can't even run basketball irl smh. It's sad how much potential this game can have if 2K just gave one crap about having some gameplay balance. Aside from popularity contest, 2K is actually bad for the sport of basketball.

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

This thread is for therapeutic purposes tho. Lol

I can't think of any other 'environment' in life where I've been more trolled than 2K. The whole thing is set up as a trolled experience.

Maybe if I wasn't spending $200 or more on 1 videogame in a pay to play model. That makes it a little annoying. We're basically forced to pay to play if we want to be competitive at all. For what though, to be trolled by the gameplay, the stupid endless grind, and the dumbest community in gaming. Why? Cuz of love of the sport. Feel like this game has been hijacked by idiots. I guess this why a lot of people like 'underground' over 'main stream'. It really hurts the product when it goes main stream because the priorities completely change. And when the priorities change, the product changes to appease the masses instead of striving for integrity and excellence.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

You must not play with randoms often. Randoms have gradually became worse since 2k18. I know guys that were walk on warriors years ago who can’t play without a few teammates now lol.

Nah, not often anymore. Trust me, I know they're the worst. I learned REALLY quickly what I was getting myself into playing with them. In the odd chance I do, I know what I'm in for...and I don't see that changing.

Thats why I had to build up a good group of ballers between here, discord, Twitter etc....there's always someone looking to play. From the ultra competitive, to the squad of "old heads" that are playing while WFH like me during the day, and everything in the middle.

I don't mind losing, but dealing with incompetence while losing just got unbearable. So, knowing what to expect has shaped my view of it all. **** I went 3-2 in Rec with some OSers last night and it was still fun as hell.

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[ILLSmak]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I can't think of any other 'environment' in life where I've been more trolled than 2K. The whole thing is set up as a trolled experience.

Maybe if I wasn't spending $200 or more on 1 videogame in a pay to play model. That makes it a little annoying. We're basically forced to pay to play if we want to be competitive at all. For what though, to be trolled by the gameplay, the stupid endless grind, and the dumbest community in gaming. Why? Cuz of love of the sport. Feel like this game has been hijacked by idiots. I guess this why a lot of people like 'underground' over 'main stream'. It really hurts the product when it goes main stream because the priorities completely change. And when the priorities change, the product changes to appease the masses instead of striving for integrity and excellence.

I’m always trying to figure out the why of things. What you said is true for most people. You might not even know you were starting off what I was gonna post.

Basically my theory is still due to time and money investment people are hyper on edge when they play and the primary driver of 2k progress is grinding mc. It’s not fostering any sort of team mentality, it’s call for the ball to get badges. Of course nobody wants to lose. I have actually gotten better at 2k since 17/18 because I’ve practiced. I learned the stick shot etc. However, what was a mediocre like 50% win percentage in 17 became closer to 35 in 18. 21 in park and rec I’m at 20. 20 percent. My stats are good for someone nobody passes to, I don’t farm assists off rebs. I get about 4-5 a game off inbounds and the rare chance someone gets stuck and has to go to me. Still, I generally have fun when we don’t lose by thirty, but then there’s the drama.

I don’t care that much about losing. I do hate that my record makes people not play with me. It’s impossible to explain to people that I’m not a bum. The guy I’m vs often quits (which should be a freaking Vc bonus) when it’s not a cohesive 5. I’m actually proud of my play and will run w anyone who needs me. 8 pts 5 assists 10 rebs (3-4 prol offensive) is alright for me.

If we’re close and we blow it it’s like damn! But not like off the handle like these kids get In 2nd quarter. I’ll get on the mic curtly and be like yo they got two paint beasts inside we gotta stop driving right in, or like what are we doing cmon we got this... but nah. That’s what gets me. I’m happy w boxing out and such.

Also re it’s hard to get a+ as guard, you should roll a big of sorts for random stuff. Its enlightening. The only build that’s hard to get an a+ with how easy they made it is pure shooter when nobody passes. You can still get steals on passes and contest shots tho. Dedicated yourself to bein the first man out and back if you’re a guard.

And re discord n such, that’s another thing. Nobody wants to make friends in game it seems. Everyone just dips. I only dip when I know there is some super toxic person who is gonna mess up the game again.


-Smak

[Thrustie]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I’m a walk on warrior still. Doesn’t feel much different than any other year although I will admit I’ve seen more squads as the years have progressed. About a third of the guys you play with will be good, a third will be mediocre and a third will be bad. If you get more than 1 bad, you’re probably cooked unless he can play at least one side of the ball well. Or you get lucky and the other team is even worse. Still win more than I lose but my win percentage has definitely gone down as more and more people resort to squading up.

The biggest difference in next gen is that you see a lot more iso and hero ball with so many Demi god builds. And unlike other years, it can actually be effective. That and a ton more 5 out lineups.


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[ILLSmak]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Alright boys, I played 5 rec games with randoms and lost them all. I HAVE VIDEO. 5 videos. If you are saying it's ok to play to with randoms, you have to watch all of the videos.



Sucks, one game was winnable; it wasn't why we lost necessarily, but I did pull the string on two shots, which sucks. In some ways, I should be more assertive, but on the other hand, I feel like if people would give me the ball where I STAND THE WHOLE FREAKING GAME, I can make a play every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs7jvyxlnG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuFMuSHwPeo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpsltYl1Uhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYFVwZM5a3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3XxhraK_38

And yea I could sell out and roll a brick wall big or whatever, but that's zz. I mean, I play w/ those dudes in the games and end up making life easier for them by spacing the floor. I didn't play perfect, but other than one good squad we faced, I think we could have won if I got 4 decent randoms with some IQ.


-Smak

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Nah, not often anymore. Trust me, I know they're the worst. I learned REALLY quickly what I was getting myself into playing with them. In the odd chance I do, I know what I'm in for...and I don't see that changing.

Thats why I had to build up a good group of ballers between here, discord, Twitter etc....there's always someone looking to play. From the ultra competitive, to the squad of "old heads" that are playing while WFH like me during the day, and everything in the middle.

I don't mind losing, but dealing with incompetence while losing just got unbearable. So, knowing what to expect has shaped my view of it all. **** I went 3-2 in Rec with some OSers last night and it was still fun as hell.

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I feel that you have turned to the dark side of opinion when it comes to randoms, lol.

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

If/when I invest in a company, I'm investing in EA.

2K:

"Hey guys. You thought current gen matchmaking was bad? Well welcome to NEXT GEN trash matchmaking. Not only will you get matched up with scared tryhards, we're giving you a 60 OVR zombie to be your teammate! Oh you don't like that? Well just back out, load up the game, and then skateboard 100 miles so you can repeat! Oh you don't like that? Create a Looking for Group so that you can wait 20 minutes to put a team together!"

Seriously fk this company. How tf do you get a thread with 50,000 fn views and they make it WORSE for NEXT GEN.

I had a nice break from this game over Thanksgiving. Peaceful. Get on today and more of the same bs. Taking another one because the customer experience is troll level 100.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

You almost have to play big when you play with randoms. Every team can benefit from good paint D and rebounding. Whether that's your cup of tea or not, that's fact. Preferably, have some sort of jumper to help space the floor. But mostly, defense and rebounding helps any team play better. If you go in looking to score with randoms you will be disappointed. Best to just be that guy who carries the team with fundamental basketball.

If you can get on the Mic and find some guys willing to share the ball and play as a unit, thats a plus. But 90 percent of the time, just play your role and hope for the best.

[ILLSmak]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

You almost have to play big when you play with randoms. Every team can benefit from good paint D and rebounding. Whether that's your cup of tea or not, that's fact. Preferably, have some sort of jumper to help space the floor. But mostly, defense and rebounding helps any team play better. If you go in looking to score with randoms you will be disappointed. Best to just be that guy who carries the team with fundamental basketball.

If you can get on the Mic and find some guys willing to share the ball and play as a unit, thats a plus. But 90 percent of the time, just play your role and hope for the best.

Yeah I mean it's also the smallest investment. You take a big with /red (haha even tho this is gonna be the last time there is such a thing prol, current gen builds), so that your rebounding is 50-something and push your height and wing span up so it's maybe 55. Spend like 5k to get 60s in both rebounding: PROFIT.



You can fill out the rest later. You will get dunked on, you will miss bunnies, but you can play just fine D with a big body and 60 isn't the threshold of good rebounding (imo it's 70), but it doesn't give you trash animations every time and once you get rebound chaser up, you will be pretty good.



That's assuming you understand how to box out and all. You can also take said big into HoF mycareer and earn massive badge points doing the same thing.



That's the basic "not buying VC" rec strategy, and it works. It still works. I bought VC this year (20!, but got 30 refunded on purchase due to black fri sale coming right after I bought) because I wanted to shoot. You wanna do things other than stand in the paint and take up space, grab rebs, etc, then you're gonna need a new build, but you can take that to the rec for real and just do your own thing and pay as you go, or let your badges carry you and spend the vc on another player.


Also, from what I hear here, I wonder if netplay is actually better on current gen. Even tho, yknow... mad randoms. Maybe that's why they mad, cuz they are on current gen.


-Smak

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I feel that you have turned to the dark side of opinion when it comes to randoms, lol.

What do you mean?

I just try to play with them as little as possible....even though I'm not running into a bad crop every single game like some seemingly are- I've been lucky, lol

Last gen, Current gen, 2K, EA, SCEA etc.

Randoms and the idiocy that comes with some of them just isn't going anywhere.

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