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  • maremmautd
    Rookie
    • Nov 2007
    • 121

    #16
    Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

    What sliders do you suggest for ps4? I have always used those of schnaidt but now they are no longer update.

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    • paqofskillz
      Rookie
      • Dec 2018
      • 68

      #17
      Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

      Originally posted by Wil2DaSon
      Might you have a spreadsheet of the injuries you applied? I am on Ps5 so I was gonna do it for the beginning of my season.

      I dont unfortunately... For the most part I just applied season ending injuries to players thats gonna miss season, and injuries to anybody who missed over 25 games

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      • paqofskillz
        Rookie
        • Dec 2018
        • 68

        #18
        Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

        Originally posted by maremmautd
        What sliders do you suggest for ps4? I have always used those of schnaidt but now they are no longer update.
        For myleague i recommend mine, for gameplay i would say its user preference. I do have a set uploaded on psn but its more focused on CPU vs CPU play. If your interested in those you can check it out

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        • timsmooth503pa
          Pro
          • Feb 2013
          • 814

          #19
          Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

          Originally posted by paqofskillz
          **UPDATED FOR 20-21 SEASON, TRADE DEADLINE 4/5/21**
          Waddup PS4 folks,
          after long debate and as the thread title implies, I decided to release the data I collected across the forum to help out fellow roster makers out there in the world. After searching to find answers, I compiled a spreadsheet to have a sort of REFERENCE GUIDE to all the top creators’ sliders for REAL MYLEAGUE SIM STATS.

          THEY ARE NOT THE GAMEPLAY SLIDERS THESE ARE MYLEAGUE SLIDERS. This information span from 2k19-2k21 and each creator goal was to have close to real sim stats. Each slider set will have different results but with them all in one place, you can easily mix and match settings to your liking. If you need gameplay sliders, I suggest schnaidt1, popboy or eccentricmeat as they have good gameplay sliders that I like.

          1st Spreadsheet https://www.dropbox.com/s/bst9q721z5...ders.xlsx?dl=0

          2nd Spreadsheet https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9gc0jfjmo...ions.xlsx?dl=0

          My second spreadsheet is just a compilation of EVERY PLAYER SHOT LOCATION% for 2020-2021 season (or last season played if less than 30 games) credit basketball-reference. I also included REAL USAGE% and a formula credited to townknave to calculate SHOT TENDENCY.





          Up until recently, Da_Czar confirmed that there were tendencies that are obsolete to gameplay and vice versa for sim stats. Shot tendency and S/Under, S/Close, S/Mid, S/3pt were some that after years of testing, I can confirm. Using real percentages allowed me to see near exact results as far as 3pt attempts go per36 in sim league.

          For Shot Tendency, as crazy as it sounds, I’ve been using townknave formula since 2k15 and when used with real shot locations it yields accurate shot selection in myleague sim stats NO MATTER THE ROSTER from my experience. Players like Harden averages 11 3pt attempts per game. Most players match their per36 stats unless they have inaccurate ratings or shooting badges (which is an issue on every roster because badges started boosting sim stats).

          To be upfront, the credited creators are Antdoggydogg, Schnaidt1, Barncore, all involved in SimWorld project, CelticLG, JEDL, EccentricMeat, Townknave, Popboy, Vanwolfhawk for his research thread & Comduklakis. Below are links to their slider pages and also links to my resources. Please read through their threads for answers if you have questions about their sliders.

          Antdoggydogg 2k20 POE’s https://forums.operationsports.com/f...2k20-poes.html

          Schnaidt1 2k21 Myleague and Gameplay sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...y-sliders.html

          Barncore 2k19 MyLeague Player Progress/Regress sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ders-2k19.html

          SimWorld 2k19 “The MyLeague Experience” https://forums.operationsports.com/f...nce-x1-54.html

          JEDL 2K20 MyLeague simulation slider base https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ider-base.html

          Popboy 2K21 MyLeague videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaU...RDYwwAw52sw-mQ

          Comduklakis 2K20 Regression/Progression and contract sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

          Townknave 2K12 Comprehensive Simulated Stats Mechanic Guide (used for usage formula) https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=84310

          EccentricMeat 2K21 Gameplay sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...lider-set.html

          CelticLG 2K21 Attention to Detail Project https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-x-switch.html

          Vanwolfhawk Tendency Edits That Are Game-Changers thread https://forums.operationsports.com/f...s-realism.html

          As far as what roster I use, I used CelticLG ATD Roster as a base. you can input shot location and tendency in any roster and the results will be near the same. I personally been using CelticLG ATD Roster since 2k19. Also, a thing of note, MyLeague stat simulation sliders and POE settings plays a part into stat distribution so keep that in mind.

          This year I have helped with the ATD roster for PS4 (paq-dont-lack on discord) s/o CelticLG, Jeffruel, max43092, ClutchCity007, ManuG20, MickeyFree777 and whoever else I missed. It was a pleasure working with you guys. Link is provided below. If you would like my version of the ATD roster its under my PSN. My version has my shot tend and location edits as well as coach POEs/profiles from simworld and antdoggydogg. Roster + ratings are updated up to trade deadline (500 players 3/31/21 DaBenjiCode, soundsational, woody47, ripcity71252 sig edits update); accessories and shoes were not fully done yet on mine. Injuries was set for players who missed or will miss over 25 games that way players can miss the approximate time from start of season you can always manually set injuries if you dont like them. My roster does not include All-Time Teams as I needed to put FA’s on a team in order to quick edit them.

          PSN: PaQ_Dont_Lack
          File: ATD with Paq Tendencies (4/5/21 Shot Tend and coach POEs updated for 20/21 season)

          also added a myleague slider set
          File: Paq ATD Settings

          and gameplay sliders for CPU vs CPU (still a work in progress)
          File: CPU vs CPU sliders


          ***please note MYLEAGUE ROSTER was a accidental upload and ATD WIP file does not include my tendencies that’s the original ATD beta file please do not download***
          good stuff i been using this since i been creating rosters but the formula i use 2(usage&)+25 to get the accurate rating i have figured out how to break every stat down on a 50 scale to bring accurate realism to the game but some get mad at my ratings but every rating represent who a player actually games but nice spreadsheet

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          • pjt8405
            MVP
            • Jan 2005
            • 1432

            #20
            Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

            Originally posted by paqofskillz
            **UPDATED FOR 20-21 SEASON, TRADE DEADLINE 4/5/21**
            Waddup PS4 folks,
            after long debate and as the thread title implies, I decided to release the data I collected across the forum to help out fellow roster makers out there in the world. After searching to find answers, I compiled a spreadsheet to have a sort of REFERENCE GUIDE to all the top creators’ sliders for REAL MYLEAGUE SIM STATS.

            THEY ARE NOT THE GAMEPLAY SLIDERS THESE ARE MYLEAGUE SLIDERS. This information span from 2k19-2k21 and each creator goal was to have close to real sim stats. Each slider set will have different results but with them all in one place, you can easily mix and match settings to your liking. If you need gameplay sliders, I suggest schnaidt1, popboy or eccentricmeat as they have good gameplay sliders that I like.

            1st Spreadsheet https://www.dropbox.com/s/bst9q721z5...ders.xlsx?dl=0

            2nd Spreadsheet https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9gc0jfjmo...ions.xlsx?dl=0

            My second spreadsheet is just a compilation of EVERY PLAYER SHOT LOCATION% for 2020-2021 season (or last season played if less than 30 games) credit basketball-reference. I also included REAL USAGE% and a formula credited to townknave to calculate SHOT TENDENCY.





            Up until recently, Da_Czar confirmed that there were tendencies that are obsolete to gameplay and vice versa for sim stats. Shot tendency and S/Under, S/Close, S/Mid, S/3pt were some that after years of testing, I can confirm. Using real percentages allowed me to see near exact results as far as 3pt attempts go per36 in sim league.

            For Shot Tendency, as crazy as it sounds, I’ve been using townknave formula since 2k15 and when used with real shot locations it yields accurate shot selection in myleague sim stats NO MATTER THE ROSTER from my experience. Players like Harden averages 11 3pt attempts per game. Most players match their per36 stats unless they have inaccurate ratings or shooting badges (which is an issue on every roster because badges started boosting sim stats).

            To be upfront, the credited creators are Antdoggydogg, Schnaidt1, Barncore, all involved in SimWorld project, CelticLG, JEDL, EccentricMeat, Townknave, Popboy, Vanwolfhawk for his research thread & Comduklakis. Below are links to their slider pages and also links to my resources. Please read through their threads for answers if you have questions about their sliders.

            Antdoggydogg 2k20 POE’s https://forums.operationsports.com/f...2k20-poes.html

            Schnaidt1 2k21 Myleague and Gameplay sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...y-sliders.html

            Barncore 2k19 MyLeague Player Progress/Regress sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ders-2k19.html

            SimWorld 2k19 “The MyLeague Experience” https://forums.operationsports.com/f...nce-x1-54.html

            JEDL 2K20 MyLeague simulation slider base https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ider-base.html

            Popboy 2K21 MyLeague videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaU...RDYwwAw52sw-mQ

            Comduklakis 2K20 Regression/Progression and contract sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

            Townknave 2K12 Comprehensive Simulated Stats Mechanic Guide (used for usage formula) https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=84310

            EccentricMeat 2K21 Gameplay sliders https://forums.operationsports.com/f...lider-set.html

            CelticLG 2K21 Attention to Detail Project https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-x-switch.html

            Vanwolfhawk Tendency Edits That Are Game-Changers thread https://forums.operationsports.com/f...s-realism.html

            As far as what roster I use, I used CelticLG ATD Roster as a base. you can input shot location and tendency in any roster and the results will be near the same. I personally been using CelticLG ATD Roster since 2k19. Also, a thing of note, MyLeague stat simulation sliders and POE settings plays a part into stat distribution so keep that in mind.

            This year I have helped with the ATD roster for PS4 (paq-dont-lack on discord) s/o CelticLG, Jeffruel, max43092, ClutchCity007, ManuG20, MickeyFree777 and whoever else I missed. It was a pleasure working with you guys. Link is provided below. If you would like my version of the ATD roster its under my PSN. My version has my shot tend and location edits as well as coach POEs/profiles from simworld and antdoggydogg. Roster + ratings are updated up to trade deadline (500 players 3/31/21 DaBenjiCode, soundsational, woody47, ripcity71252 sig edits update); accessories and shoes were not fully done yet on mine. Injuries was set for players who missed or will miss over 25 games that way players can miss the approximate time from start of season you can always manually set injuries if you dont like them. My roster does not include All-Time Teams as I needed to put FA’s on a team in order to quick edit them.

            PSN: PaQ_Dont_Lack
            File: ATD with Paq Tendencies (4/5/21 Shot Tend and coach POEs updated for 20/21 season)

            also added a myleague slider set
            File: Paq ATD Settings

            and gameplay sliders for CPU vs CPU (still a work in progress)
            File: CPU vs CPU sliders


            ***please note MYLEAGUE ROSTER was a accidental upload and ATD WIP file does not include my tendencies that’s the original ATD beta file please do not download***


            Really great job on this!

            Quick question.... Regarding the shot location data, how often will this sheet be updated and would it be possible for it to auto update or was the data manaully added by hand?
            NBA 2k24 Roster Guide for MYNBA/Classic/All-Time Teams

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...DLtC7snYo/edit

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            • paqofskillz
              Rookie
              • Dec 2018
              • 68

              #21
              Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

              Originally posted by timsmooth503pa
              good stuff i been using this since i been creating rosters but the formula i use 2(usage&)+25 to get the accurate rating i have figured out how to break every stat down on a 50 scale to bring accurate realism to the game but some get mad at my ratings but every rating represent who a player actually games but nice spreadsheet
              Thanks. I've read your formula last year and tried it for a few stats. to be fair and honest all scales work as long as every player gets rated. Most roster creators only edit top players and rotation guys which throws the stat distribution off.
              Last edited by paqofskillz; 04-09-2021, 03:55 PM. Reason: Typo

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              • paqofskillz
                Rookie
                • Dec 2018
                • 68

                #22
                Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

                Originally posted by pjt8405
                Really great job on this!

                Quick question.... Regarding the shot location data, how often will this sheet be updated and would it be possible for it to auto update or was the data manaully added by hand?
                Nah i won't update the spreadsheet til end of season that way folks can have something to work with for 2k22 seasons opener.

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                • paqofskillz
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 68

                  #23
                  Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2021 season Spreadsheet + PS4 Roster with 2021 U

                  Originally posted by timsmooth503pa
                  good stuff i been using this since i been creating rosters but the formula i use 2(usage&)+25 to get the accurate rating i have figured out how to break every stat down on a 50 scale to bring accurate realism to the game but some get mad at my ratings but every rating represent who a player actually games but nice spreadsheet
                  Also was wondering is there any way i can pick your brain? I've seen your formula posted before but was wondering do you have any more that your willing to share? Im still testing a lot of things out

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                  • Olschooler58
                    Just started!
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 2

                    #24
                    Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                    Hey Paq, I am playing an offline season with this roster on PS4 and I discovered that Kwahi does not have shoes/feet. Not sure where the problem lies, but thought I would mention it

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                    • Reddcheese
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 73

                      #25
                      Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                      Hey Paq,

                      Phenomenal info on this! Do u have any further info on the shooting tendencies that affect gamplay? For instances is the shot tendency responsible for who takes the most shots in game? Or is that a sim slider also?

                      I understand that this might be an impossible question to answer 😂

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                      • jdizzle45
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 367

                        #26
                        Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                        Kind of a dumb question, but what’s the difference between this roster and the atd one? You used that one as a base but is it just transactions or more?

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                        • deathstryk3
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 254

                          #27
                          Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                          Hi. I used your roster on ps4 this year but I got a ps5 now. and wanted to know if you have your player edits, so I can edit the ps5 ATD roster I downloaded to match your edits since it was as perfect as I can ever remember for cpu v cpu in mynba and regular games. Is there a tip jar or patreon?

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                          • jdizzle45
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 367

                            #28
                            Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                            This roster is unloadable on ps4. Is there a fix?

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                            • paqofskillz
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 68

                              #29
                              Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                              Hello everyone, sorry I been away from 2k as I been dealing with a few family issues in life regarding my father. Everything is ok for now and I’m back to see if any issues arised with the roster. Solar it seems like the roster is holding strong.

                              Originally posted by Reddcheese
                              Hey Paq,

                              Phenomenal info on this! Do u have any further info on the shooting tendencies that affect gamplay? For instances is the shot tendency responsible for who takes the most shots in game? Or is that a sim slider also?

                              I understand that this might be an impossible question to answer ��
                              The touch tendency seems to have a great affect on shot attempts but its really a combination of both shot tend and touch tendency. That was something I was looking into before I took a hiatus so ill have better info on it in a few days.

                              Originally posted by jdizzle45
                              Kind of a dumb question, but what’s the difference between this roster and the atd one? You used that one as a base but is it just transactions or more?
                              No question is a dumb question. The difference is the way I handled the shot location tendencies and shot tendency. I used real shot percentages in each location where as atd scaled each tendency from 1-100. Also, I updated ratings for most players using this season or last (if player didn’t log enough minutes this year).

                              Originally posted by deathstryk3
                              Hi. I used your roster on ps4 this year but I got a ps5 now. and wanted to know if you have your player edits, so I can edit the ps5 ATD roster I downloaded to match your edits since it was as perfect as I can ever remember for cpu v cpu in mynba and regular games. Is there a tip jar or patreon?
                              For now I do not, but after long thought I will definitely be compositing a complete roster edit sheet.
                              Originally posted by jdizzle45
                              This roster is unloadable on ps4. Is there a fix?
                              I reuploaded the roster so hopefully that fixed the issue with your ps4. I also added missing face scans
                              Last edited by paqofskillz; 07-07-2021, 07:17 PM. Reason: forgot to reply to last comment

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                              • jdizzle45
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 367

                                #30
                                Re: Real Usage & Shot Location% from 2018-2020 season Spreadsheet + ATD Roster Edit

                                It still doesn’t load

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