NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Thanks for the response! I was operating under a theory that offensive consistency determines how often a play will perform up to their ability, so essentially higher OC=more buckets. I didn’t suspect that it had much to do with streaks

You’re mostly right. High offensive consistency means shooters will shoot to their ratings with little variation (limited hot/cold streaks). Low offensive consistency means players get into hot/cold streaks more easily (instead of just consistent performance per their ratings), leading to more variety and more hot/cold runs for each team.

[MrStats94]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

From my own personal experience, I just don’t understand how anyone can play with offensive consistency on 0. It seems to be the sole determining factor over whether I will score 80-90 points and shoot like 38% (slider on 0) or score 95-105 points and shoot 45% or up (slider on 50). It doesn’t seem to make anything more random, it just seems to completely nerf my team’s shooting abilities, even on layups. I’ve even switched mid-game after a high-scoring first half many times, and turned it down to 0 from 50. I’m in one of these games right now as I type this. I shot 51% in the first half (9/15 3pt), moved the OC slider down to 0, and I’m shooting 36% in the second half (2/12 3pt) midway through the 4th. I know this is just one example, but I bring it up to illustrate exactly what happens when I say that it happens every single time I try this specific test. If it changes consistency/streaks in the way you suggest, then at least some of the time the hot shooting would continue into and throughout the second half, right? So that I could score 120 every now and then? Except it never does. I’m not exaggerating either, not one single time does the good shooting continue into the second half. These reasons are why I strongly question that the slider determines how quickly/slowly players get hot/cold streaks. I mean maybe it has an effect on that as well, I don’t know. I have not tested that aspect of it. It does for sure lower a player’s reliability though, it just doesn’t seem to do that in the way intended.

Also, you said that you had body-up sensitivity at 100, but it is at zero on the first page of this thread in bold red. Last time I downloaded your set on the PS4 it was also at zero there.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

From my own personal experience, I just don’t understand how anyone can play with offensive consistency on 0. It seems to be the sole determining factor over whether I will score 80-90 points and shoot like 38% (slider on 0) or score 95-105 points and shoot 45% or up (slider on 50). It doesn’t seem to make anything more random, it just seems to completely nerf my team’s shooting abilities, even on layups. I’ve even switched mid-game after a high-scoring first half many times, and turned it down to 0 from 50. I’m in one of these games right now as I type this. I shot 51% in the first half (9/15 3pt), moved the OC slider down to 0, and I’m shooting 36% in the second half (2/12 3pt) midway through the 4th. I know this is just one example, but I bring it up to illustrate exactly what happens when I say that it happens every single time I try this specific test. If it changes consistency/streaks in the way you suggest, then at least some of the time the hot shooting would continue into and throughout the second half, right? So that I could score 120 every now and then? Except it never does. I’m not exaggerating either, not one single time does the good shooting continue into the second half. These reasons are why I strongly question that the slider determines how quickly/slowly players get hot/cold streaks. I mean maybe it has an effect on that as well, I don’t know. I have not tested that aspect of it. It does for sure lower a player’s reliability though, it just doesn’t seem to do that in the way intended.



Also, you said that you had body-up sensitivity at 100, but it is at zero on the first page of this thread in bold red. Last time I downloaded your set on the PS4 it was also at zero there.

Do you play with real player % or user timing? I never have a problem with constantly shooting a low percentage or having a low scoring game every time with Off. Consistency set to 0, but I use User Timing.

And yea, the OP is my latest “official” set but it is outdated. I posted some new BETA sliders a number of pages back that play much better IMO.

When I get back to my laptop I’ll update the OP with those BETA sliders. My bad!

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

*BETA* (and FINAL) Update Posted!

2K18... It's been real. It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun. Sorry, but I see this newer, younger model on the horizon (2K19), and I'm just not that into you anymore, baby... I'll tell you what, let's give it one last go around, for old time's sake. Yea? Alright, but stop crying, that totally takes me out of it...

But in all seriousness, this BETA update will be the last thing I do with 2K18. 2K19 is just around the corner, and after seeing the new hotness, I just can't go back to the old-and-busted. Can you blame me?

I present to you:

Base Slider Set v6.0 *BETA* - Latest Update: August 11th

Spoiler

Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Hall of Fame (Make sure to update ALL sliders after changing difficulty)
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Game Speed - 48
Free Throw Difficulty - 50
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Shot Meter - Off
Shot Feedback - User Preference

Coach Settings
PlayVision - All Plays
PlayVision Display - Full
Offense Playcalling - Auto

These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense.

Controller Settings
Shot Reaction With Intense D - On (User Preference)
Defensive Assist With Intense D - 0

Camera Settings
Drive
Zoom - 1
Height - 5
Key Zoom - Off

This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way!

Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera.

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 66/69
Close Shot Success - 66/69
Mid-Range Shot Success - 54/56
3PT Success - 54/56
Layup Success - 57/60
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/60
Dunk in Traffic Success - 48
Pass Accuracy - 50/25
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 57/60
Ball Security - 50/25
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100
Pass Speed - 58

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 40/60 (Makes it a little easier for the CPU to blow-by perimeter defenders while making it more difficult for the USER)
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 80
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 90
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 95
Help Defense Strength - 100
Steal Success - 65/60

Attributes
Acceleration - 40
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 50
Speed – 35
Durability - 50
Hustle – 85/75
Ball Handling – 50
Hands – 70/55
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 70
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 60/65
Offensive Awareness - 75
Defensive Awareness – 65
Offensive Rebounding - 8/7
Defensive Rebounding – 12/11
Offensive Consistency - 0
Defensive Consistency - 65
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 0/100 (Set CPU to 50 if their defense is too solid)

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 90
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 30
Take 3PT Shots - 45
Post Shots - 45
Attack the Basket - 30
Look for Post Players - 60
Throw Alley-Oops - 45
Attempt Dunks - 45
Attempt Putbacks - 30
Play Passing Lanes - 60
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100
Contest Shots - 90
Backdoor Cuts - 45

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 60/100 (Increase USER if you're called for too many charges and/or you want the CPU defense to be called for more blocking fouls)
Reaching Foul Frequency - 75
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/45
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 60
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 55
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 97
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 93
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45

[jakalfc]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

*BETA* (and FINAL) Update Posted!

2K18... It's been real. It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun. Sorry, but I see this newer, younger model on the horizon (2K19), and I'm just not that into you anymore, baby... I'll tell you what, let's give it one last go around, for old time's sake. Yea? Alright, but stop crying, that totally takes me out of it...

But in all seriousness, this BETA update will be the last thing I do with 2K18. 2K19 is just around the corner, and after seeing the new hotness, I just can't go back to the old-and-busted. Can you blame me?

I present to you:

Base Slider Set v6.0 *BETA* - Latest Update: August 11th

Spoiler

Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Hall of Fame (Make sure to update ALL sliders after changing difficulty)
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Game Speed - 48
Free Throw Difficulty - 50
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Shot Meter - Off
Shot Feedback - User Preference

Coach Settings
PlayVision - All Plays
PlayVision Display - Full
Offense Playcalling - Auto

These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense.

Controller Settings
Shot Reaction With Intense D - On (User Preference)
Defensive Assist With Intense D - 0

Camera Settings
Drive
Zoom - 1
Height - 5
Key Zoom - Off

This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way!

Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera.

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 66/69
Close Shot Success - 66/69
Mid-Range Shot Success - 54/56
3PT Success - 54/56
Layup Success - 57/60
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/60
Dunk in Traffic Success - 48
Pass Accuracy - 50/25
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 57/60
Ball Security - 50/25
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100
Pass Speed - 58

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 40/60 (Makes it a little easier for the CPU to blow-by perimeter defenders while making it more difficult for the USER)
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 80
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 90
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 95
Help Defense Strength - 100
Steal Success - 65/60

Attributes
Acceleration - 40
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 50
Speed – 35
Durability - 50
Hustle – 85/75
Ball Handling – 50
Hands – 70/55
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 70
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 60/65
Offensive Awareness - 75
Defensive Awareness – 65
Offensive Rebounding - 8/7
Defensive Rebounding – 12/11
Offensive Consistency - 0
Defensive Consistency - 65
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 0/100 (Set CPU to 50 if their defense is too solid)

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 90
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 30
Take 3PT Shots - 45
Post Shots - 45
Attack the Basket - 30
Look for Post Players - 60
Throw Alley-Oops - 45
Attempt Dunks - 45
Attempt Putbacks - 30
Play Passing Lanes - 60
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100
Contest Shots - 90
Backdoor Cuts - 45

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 60/100 (Increase USER if you're called for too many charges and/or you want the CPU defense to be called for more blocking fouls)
Reaching Foul Frequency - 75
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/45
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 60
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 55
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 97
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 93
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45

Hello EccentricMeat, I had read in previous posts that you did not know whether to buy nba2k19, I understood that now you will buy 19, what made you change your mind? is it worth it to you to go with nba2k19? ........ to be premised that I play with the simworld rosters and I'm still having fun

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[EccentricMeat]

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Hello EccentricMeat, I had read in previous posts that you did not know whether to buy nba2k19, I understood that now you will buy 19, what made you change your mind? is it worth it to you to go with nba2k19? ........ to be premised that I play with the simworld rosters and I'm still having fun

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A mix of boredom with 2K18 and apathy of the league in general (after Cousins signed with the Warriors) made me question whether I would even buy 2K19.

Then I saw the gameplay improvements 2K added this year + all of the HUGE improvements and customization options added to MyLEAGUE and I was sold.

Only problem is I also love playing Madden and FIFA, as well as all the other games I’ll be getting this fall (Spyro, Spider-Man, Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield V, and FALLOUT 76!!!!) and the fact that me and my buddies play Fortnite and PUBG on a regular basis, it’s gonna be a crazy few months coming up [emoji23]


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[jakalfc]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

A mix of boredom with 2K18 and apathy of the league in general (after Cousins signed with the Warriors) made me question whether I would even buy 2K19.

Then I saw the gameplay improvements 2K added this year + all of the HUGE improvements and customization options added to MyLEAGUE and I was sold.

Only problem is I also love playing Madden and FIFA, as well as all the other games I’ll be getting this fall (Spyro, Spider-Man, Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield V, and FALLOUT 76!!!!) and the fact that me and my buddies play Fortnite and PUBG on a regular basis, it’s gonna be a crazy few months coming up [emoji23]


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Ok, I have not read what he put around 2k, I'm pleased to hear that 2k has made improvements, so I ask you for advice, knowing the gameplay of nba2k18 would you buy the 2k19?

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[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Ok, I have not read what he put around 2k, I'm pleased to hear that 2k has made improvements, so I ask you for advice, knowing the gameplay of nba2k18 would you buy the 2k19?

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100%

2K18 has too many issues that simply cannot be fixed due to the new motion/animation system they implemented. 2K19 took those issues head-on and fixed them. The animations alone will make a HUGE difference.

[jakalfc]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

100%

2K18 has too many issues that simply cannot be fixed due to the new motion/animation system they implemented. 2K19 took those issues head-on and fixed them. The animations alone will make a HUGE difference.

Ok friend, you have been very helpful

Thanks [emoji106]

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[MrStats94]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Do you play with real player % or user timing? I never have a problem with constantly shooting a low percentage or having a low scoring game every time with Off. Consistency set to 0, but I use User Timing.

And yea, the OP is my latest “official” set but it is outdated. I posted some new BETA sliders a number of pages back that play much better IMO.

When I get back to my laptop I’ll update the OP with those BETA sliders. My bad!

I was using user timing. My next step was to switch to real %, adjust the shooting sliders according to the shooting percentages, then switch back to user timing and go from there.

Buttt, now that there’s this new beta set, hopefully I’ll get one game in with them tonight, if not then tomorrow for sure.

[MrStats94]

Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

I played three games and they went well with the beta set. I won all three. I’m playing as the Suns and 76ers in MyLeague, it’s 2024, and both teams are stacked with young talent (plus most of their current core players). I’ve simmed most of the games so far and just reached the All-star break with both teams atop their conferences. So winning all three was not surprising. They were mostly close throughout, sometimes with me trailing slightly for large portions of the game. But in the end I pulled away in the 4th. I saw a bit of the offensive consistency (rather, inconsistency haha) at play. I had a role player who was cold through the first 34 minutes of the game. Then in the final two minutes he gets lucky on a contested step back from close/midrange, and then follows it up with 8 more points (2 beautiful swish threes in transition) over the final three possessions of the quarter. Lol. So he went from cold (no cold symbol, just my observation) to 10 points in <2 minutes. Oddly enough he never got “hot”, though. I also had another player struggle a little bit in the first half and then light it up for 17 on 5-7 3PT in the second half. So I definitely saw some realistic ups and downs. These games are higher scoring than previous games, although still a little lower than desired (103-88, 98-94, and 105-85). But I don’t think it’s something sliders can fix in this game because I’ve never had truly realistic scores. There’s just too many little things with the AI that slow the pace down over the course of the game. Lastly, I did lower the CPU lateral quickness to 50 from the getgo. I remember you advising to do that in previous slider sets if CPU D was too tough, which I found it to be at 100. And I also raised the CPU shooting fouls to 100 after the 2nd game, and I saw much improved user FT numbers. The first two games with it on 45 I had very low FT numbers yet seemed to be getting hacked at the rim without any calls a lot. Thanks for the slider set! They were overall very enjoyable games that seemed to just have a really good and realistic flow to them.

I’m just ready for 2k19 to drop!

[lifetimez]

Re: NBA 2K18 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

*BETA* (and FINAL) Update Posted!

2K18... It's been real. It's been fun... But it hasn't been real fun. Sorry, but I see this newer, younger model on the horizon (2K19), and I'm just not that into you anymore, baby... I'll tell you what, let's give it one last go around, for old time's sake. Yea? Alright, but stop crying, that totally takes me out of it...

But in all seriousness, this BETA update will be the last thing I do with 2K18. 2K19 is just around the corner, and after seeing the new hotness, I just can't go back to the old-and-busted. Can you blame me?

I present to you:

Base Slider Set v6.0 *BETA* - Latest Update: August 11th

Spoiler

Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Hall of Fame (Make sure to update ALL sliders after changing difficulty)
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Game Speed - 48
Free Throw Difficulty - 50
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Shot Meter - Off
Shot Feedback - User Preference

Coach Settings
PlayVision - All Plays
PlayVision Display - Full
Offense Playcalling - Auto

These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense.

Controller Settings
Shot Reaction With Intense D - On (User Preference)
Defensive Assist With Intense D - 0

Camera Settings
Drive
Zoom - 1
Height - 5
Key Zoom - Off

This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way!

Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera.

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 66/69
Close Shot Success - 66/69
Mid-Range Shot Success - 54/56
3PT Success - 54/56
Layup Success - 57/60
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/60
Dunk in Traffic Success - 48
Pass Accuracy - 50/25
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 57/60
Ball Security - 50/25
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100
Pass Speed - 58

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 40/60 (Makes it a little easier for the CPU to blow-by perimeter defenders while making it more difficult for the USER)
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 80
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 90
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 95
Help Defense Strength - 100
Steal Success - 65/60

Attributes
Acceleration - 40
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 50
Speed – 35
Durability - 50
Hustle – 85/75
Ball Handling – 50
Hands – 70/55
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 70
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 60/65
Offensive Awareness - 75
Defensive Awareness – 65
Offensive Rebounding - 8/7
Defensive Rebounding – 12/11
Offensive Consistency - 0
Defensive Consistency - 65
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 0/100 (Set CPU to 50 if their defense is too solid)

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 90
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 30
Take 3PT Shots - 45
Post Shots - 45
Attack the Basket - 30
Look for Post Players - 60
Throw Alley-Oops - 45
Attempt Dunks - 45
Attempt Putbacks - 30
Play Passing Lanes - 60
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100
Contest Shots - 90
Backdoor Cuts - 45

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 60/100 (Increase USER if you're called for too many charges and/or you want the CPU defense to be called for more blocking fouls)
Reaching Foul Frequency - 75
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/45
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 60
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 55
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 35
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 97
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 93
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45

Thanks for all your work with these sliders my man.

Question: are/will the latest set (6.0 Beta) be up on 2Kshare by any chance?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K18 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

Thanks for all your work with these sliders my man.



Question: are/will the latest set (6.0 Beta) be up on 2Kshare by any chance?

I always forget about 2K Share for some reason. I’ll log in tonight and put them up!

[ciaco]

Re: NBA 2K18 &amp;quot;The Eccentric Edition&amp;quot; - Realistic Slider Set

2k19?

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[ChiefKeef300]

Re: NBA 2K18 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

where you at bro? 2k19 needs you badly.