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  • Darthy667
    Rookie
    • Dec 2017
    • 53

    #106
    Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

    Very fun sliders to use

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    • mcdowell31
      Rookie
      • Dec 2007
      • 168

      #107
      Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

      Originally posted by duce
      On Playstation Network...
      name: base2
      psn: stickmanduce

      Premise
      "base2" removes user exploits. Furthermore, it is meant to provide another level of challenge beyond "Hall of Fame". Tell me if you are able to exploit this set (and win!).

      Tested on Default Rosters.

      Live Gameplay
      <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=superx2x" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe>

      Settings
      Game Speed: 50
      Real FG% or personal preference.
      Shot Timing FT or personal preference.
      FT Difficulty: 50
      Shot Meter Off

      Spreadsheet containing current set and previous versions.

      Current set listed below.
      CPU
      Spoiler


      USER
      Spoiler
      This is incredible! I was going to wait and type an impression in the morning but had to stop and do it while my thoughts are fresh.

      Every player on both sides is playing logically: I definitely can't go under on three-point shooters that are confident and "know" their strength; while others might be competent they may not be quick to fire or they're just not feeling it at the moment or are not "in the zone".

      On my side: It's brought out some strengths in a couple of role players that I had not realized before with my previous game settings. It hasn't changed their attributes or tendencies, but they've become more useful and easier for me to use the way they interact with the AI opponent.

      You've definitely struck a good balance in the decision-making process. I can "cheat" some AI players as I watch their offensive and defensive awareness patterns. Low awareness and I can get away with helping or "shortcuts"; high awareness and they're going to make me pay This is the same kind of strategic "cheat" I do when I play the game in reality in the gym, so it feels very realistic and balanced.

      I played one game with your settings verbatim: I enjoyed everything, but it was a little slow.

      For game two, I put Game Speed back to 80 and all animation settings to 64: That was too fast and cartoony so I quit-out 6-minutes into the first quarter. Those speed settings worked on my previous AI settings.

      I restarted game two at Game Speed 80 and Animations at 50: Better but still slightly slow and syrupy. I quit after 6-minutes.

      I restarted at Game Speed 80 and Animations at 57: Super! Everything I mentioned above about AI and decision-making really popped for me here.

      Excellent! I'll be playing these for a while. I'll let you know of any other changes or experiences.

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      • duce
        a goat
        • Dec 2017
        • 534

        #108
        Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

        Originally posted by mcdowell31
        This is incredible! I was going to wait and type an impression in the morning but had to stop and do it while my thoughts are fresh.

        Every player on both sides is playing logically: I definitely can't go under on three-point shooters that are confident and "know" their strength; while others might be competent they may not be quick to fire or they're just not feeling it at the moment or are not "in the zone".

        On my side: It's brought out some strengths in a couple of role players that I had not realized before with my previous game settings. It hasn't changed their attributes or tendencies, but they've become more useful and easier for me to use the way they interact with the AI opponent.

        You've definitely struck a good balance in the decision-making process. I can "cheat" some AI players as I watch their offensive and defensive awareness patterns. Low awareness and I can get away with helping or "shortcuts"; high awareness and they're going to make me pay This is the same kind of strategic "cheat" I do when I play the game in reality in the gym, so it feels very realistic and balanced.

        I played one game with your settings verbatim: I enjoyed everything, but it was a little slow.

        For game two, I put Game Speed back to 80 and all animation settings to 64: That was too fast and cartoony so I quit-out 6-minutes into the first quarter. Those speed settings worked on my previous AI settings.

        I restarted game two at Game Speed 80 and Animations at 50: Better but still slightly slow and syrupy. I quit after 6-minutes.

        I restarted at Game Speed 80 and Animations at 57: Super! Everything I mentioned above about AI and decision-making really popped for me here.

        Excellent! I'll be playing these for a while. I'll let you know of any other changes or experiences.
        Nice!

        After a long uhauling process, just able to play again. Not sure which version I tested, but it definitely gave me a punch in the face. I got off to a good first quarter, lowered lateral quickness for user, and i was outta there. Wiggins and Davis went off until Wiggins got hurt, then they coasted.

        I'm glad the speed didn't change the game mechanics negatively. I'm still looking for a way to negate that rip thru speed drive animation. But I'm going to try using my last set (based off one of the OS rosters) on a default fantasy roster set. If it runs well, I'll update the main post. If you get a chance, let me know your full set, I can try it out.
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        • mcdowell31
          Rookie
          • Dec 2007
          • 168

          #109
          Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

          Everything is based from the Gold Custom set.

          I've gone back to a previous season opening night that had all badges disabled to compare outcomes. When I came across your settings I was playing with badges accidentally: I usually disable them opening of every season, but I was started already and curious to see if the badges effects had been toned-down since September 2017. It seemed I was having less challenge with badges; I see them as training wheels that distort gameplay. I added your settings 10 games into the badges-season I think and things got good. After 10 games with your sliders, things started feeling a little stale again, and I suspected the badges. I'm 4 games again and the excitement is back without the badges.

          Here's where I am right now:

          Settings
          Game Speed: 80 My preference
          Real FG%
          Real FT% My preference
          FT Difficulty: 50
          Shot Meter Off

          Offense USER CPU
          Inside Shot Success 50 64
          Close Shot Success 50 64
          Mid-Range Success 50 64
          3PT Success 50 64
          Layup Success 50 50
          Dunk In Traffic Frequency 50 50
          Dunk In Traffic Success 32 32
          Pass Accuracy 32 32
          Alley-Oop Success 50 50
          Contact Shot Success 2 2
          Ball Security 32 64
          Body-up Sensitivity 64 64
          Pass Speed 100 100 My preference

          Defense USER CPU
          Driving Contact Shot Frequency 99 99
          Inside Contact Shot Frequency 99 99
          Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) 50 99
          Layup Defense Strength (Release) 50 99
          Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) 50 99
          Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release)50 99
          Help Defense Strength 50 99
          Steal Success 32 99

          Attributes USER CPU
          Acceleration 32 32
          Vertical 32 32
          Strength 50 64
          Stamina 50 50
          Speed 0 0 My preference
          Durability 50 50
          Hustle 99 99
          Ball Handling 32 32
          Hands 50 99
          Dunking Ability 32 50 My preference
          On-Ball Defense 16 50
          Stealing 16 50
          Blocking 50 50
          Offensive Awareness 32 99
          Defensive Awareness 32 99
          Offensive Rebounding 1 1
          Defensive Rebounding 1 2
          Offensive Consistency 32 99
          Defensive Consistency16 99
          Fatigue Rate 50 50 My preference
          Lateral Quickness 16 32

          Tendencies USER CPU
          Take Inside Shots 50 32
          Take Close Shots 50 8
          Take Mid-Range Shots 50 4
          Take 3PT Shots 50 32
          Post Shots 50 8
          Attack The Basket 50 50
          Look for Post Players 50 8
          Throw Alley-Oops 50 99 My preference
          Attempt Dunks 50 99 My preference
          Attempt Putbacks 50 50
          Play Passing Lanes 99 99
          Go for On-Ball Steals 99 99
          Contest Shots 99 99
          Backdoor Cuts 99 99

          Fouls USER CPU
          Over The Back Foul 99 99
          Charging Foul 99 99
          Blocking Foul 99 64
          Reaching Foul 64 99
          Shooting Foul 99 64
          Loose Ball Foul 99 99

          Movement USER CPU
          Speed with Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
          Speed with Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
          Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
          Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
          Speed without Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
          Speed without Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
          Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
          Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
          Last edited by mcdowell31; 08-27-2018, 11:55 AM.

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          • Steven123
            Pro
            • Feb 2007
            • 761

            #110
            Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

            Can't believe I havent tried these until now!

            I really like how you have manipulated the gameplay. It feels good, open shots are actually open and will go in if the shooter has the skill, my CPU teammates actually play good defense to the point where I stay as the PG on the defense.

            One thing I suggest to not change any defensive settings, they play well with everything set to automatic, i noticed it seems to screw up the CPU when you change the settings.

            I'm actually losing games without feeling cheated. I'm getting realistic rebound numbers per game.

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            • duce
              a goat
              • Dec 2017
              • 534

              #111
              Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base2 Sliders for NBA2K18

              Originally posted by mcdowell31
              Everything is based from the Gold Custom set.

              I've gone back to a previous season opening night that had all badges disabled to compare outcomes. When I came across your settings I was playing with badges accidentally: I usually disable them opening of every season, but I was started already and curious to see if the badges effects had been toned-down since September 2017. It seemed I was having less challenge with badges; I see them as training wheels that distort gameplay. I added your settings 10 games into the badges-season I think and things got good. After 10 games with your sliders, things started feeling a little stale again, and I suspected the badges. I'm 4 games again and the excitement is back without the badges.

              Here's where I am right now:

              Settings
              Game Speed: 80 My preference
              Real FG%
              Real FT% My preference
              FT Difficulty: 50
              Shot Meter Off

              Offense USER CPU
              Inside Shot Success 50 64
              Close Shot Success 50 64
              Mid-Range Success 50 64
              3PT Success 50 64
              Layup Success 50 50
              Dunk In Traffic Frequency 50 50
              Dunk In Traffic Success 32 32
              Pass Accuracy 32 32
              Alley-Oop Success 50 50
              Contact Shot Success 2 2
              Ball Security 32 64
              Body-up Sensitivity 64 64
              Pass Speed 100 100 My preference

              Defense USER CPU
              Driving Contact Shot Frequency 99 99
              Inside Contact Shot Frequency 99 99
              Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) 50 99
              Layup Defense Strength (Release) 50 99
              Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) 50 99
              Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release)50 99
              Help Defense Strength 50 99
              Steal Success 32 99

              Attributes USER CPU
              Acceleration 32 32
              Vertical 32 32
              Strength 50 64
              Stamina 50 50
              Speed 0 0 My preference
              Durability 50 50
              Hustle 99 99
              Ball Handling 32 32
              Hands 50 99
              Dunking Ability 32 50 My preference
              On-Ball Defense 16 50
              Stealing 16 50
              Blocking 50 50
              Offensive Awareness 32 99
              Defensive Awareness 32 99
              Offensive Rebounding 1 1
              Defensive Rebounding 1 2
              Offensive Consistency 32 99
              Defensive Consistency16 99
              Fatigue Rate 50 50 My preference
              Lateral Quickness 16 32

              Tendencies USER CPU
              Take Inside Shots 50 32
              Take Close Shots 50 8
              Take Mid-Range Shots 50 4
              Take 3PT Shots 50 32
              Post Shots 50 8
              Attack The Basket 50 50
              Look for Post Players 50 8
              Throw Alley-Oops 50 99 My preference
              Attempt Dunks 50 99 My preference
              Attempt Putbacks 50 50
              Play Passing Lanes 99 99
              Go for On-Ball Steals 99 99
              Contest Shots 99 99
              Backdoor Cuts 99 99

              Fouls USER CPU
              Over The Back Foul 99 99
              Charging Foul 99 99
              Blocking Foul 99 64
              Reaching Foul 64 99
              Shooting Foul 99 64
              Loose Ball Foul 99 99

              Movement USER CPU
              Speed with Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
              Speed with Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
              Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
              Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
              Speed without Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
              Speed without Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
              Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating) 57 57
              Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating) 57 57
              Playing your set now. I really like how the movement sliders are implemented while being equal. 2nd Quarter in my default roster fantasy league down 23-36 vs Klay.

              Ended half down 7 (iirc), and after a break from the screens, I'll finish up. I like a lot of the ideas your bringing. CPU passing feels high energy, and help defense feels more timely. Reaction timing had to be quick with these, definitely.

              back at it
              Last edited by duce; 08-29-2018, 08:43 PM.
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              • duce
                a goat
                • Dec 2017
                • 534

                #112
                Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?autoplay=false&video=v303548571" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe>

                2-Point loss. I will definitely play with these again (at least until I can win with them!). Enjoy a challenge. I have a feeling it is a little faster than I prefer, but if I end up playing for a while I can see getting used to the speed in a way. Posted on PSN for anyone trying these.

                Back at with the same settings (except User Timing FT%). Close team overall rankings, but no Donovan Mitchell (injury) to play against.
                Last edited by duce; 08-30-2018, 08:01 PM.
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                • duce
                  a goat
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 534

                  #113
                  Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                  3 Games in with this mcdowell set. 2nd Game was a blowout vs an undermanned Rockets team. 3rd was an OT loss vs KLove/EGordon/RKurucs. I think that this set requires focus, but I do feel some pieces may need tweaking. I was waiting to get a win vs a true superstar before I make any changes. Enter KD and the Detroit Pistons...

                  <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=superx2x" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe>

                  105-96 win. I'm going to try a few things. Changed movement/speed/pass speed sliders first.
                  Last edited by duce; 09-02-2018, 01:04 PM.
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                  • Steven123
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 761

                    #114
                    Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                    Ok guys, I was able to play 2k19 for a bit. I'm happy to say that they have revamped the movement system.

                    It feels more like these sliders that the stock movement from 2k18.

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                    • duce
                      a goat
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 534

                      #115
                      Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                      Thanks to everyone and anyone that contributed/watched/pushed the movement forward. On to 2K19
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                      • stickyfingers
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 458

                        #116
                        Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                        i'm waiting for your 2K19 sliders impatiently
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                        • duce
                          a goat
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 534

                          #117
                          Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

                          Originally posted by stickyfingers
                          i'm waiting for your 2K19 sliders impatiently
                          I'd be down to start a thread once I know what people are seeing issue with. I haven't seen many people say the game is too easy, so maybe a Community Slider thread will make sense for rebalancing.
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