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  • EccentricMeat
    MVP
    • Aug 2011
    • 3242

    #16
    Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

    Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
    I haven’t played since the patch yet. Good to hear.

    What’s funny is I completely agree and did the same exact things in all areas as you stated below in your 2nd response! I did the same with cpu shot timing at 0 and still had to up all their shooting sliders as well.

    1 thing I’ve tried to help against is the to drastic delay on ball defenders (imo). Been messing with on ball. I’ve had the body up sensitivity at 100 and contact sliders at 100 as well. It’s still not enough for me so trying to find balance between on ball, def consistency, and d awareness for help & that perfect balance with hip rides though. I’ve had to really up lateral quickness too. I feel like what’s the point til I find good movement sliders? Plus I feel like I’ve had to overly move things and maybe there is a better way this year that I’m just missing or overlooking?! Just another reason I’m curious on your findings and can’t wait to see what you are getting. I think we both like the game to play in a very similar way. Take your time! I’ll keep checking this thread daily! Lol
    I'm really just focusing on On Ball Defense, Defensive Awareness, and Lateral Quickness increases for the AI. As Czar said, elite defenders react quicker and don't have that huge delay. That tells me the mechanic must be tied into attributes that dictate who the elite defenders are, and those three fit the bill.

    I actually think I'll be decreasing Body Up Sensitivity, as I find it far too easy to trigger brickwall animations (especially as the user defender), and I want more hip-rides instead.

    Originally posted by atlplayboy23
    Eccentric will you be making sliders for the different era or just current Nba

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    I plan on doing sliders for multiple eras (at least the current and Kobe eras, for sure). Idk if I'll do the 90s, but I almost certainly won't be doing any for the 80s (as I have 0 attachment to that era of the game, and limited knowledge or experience around the vast differences in how the game was played back then). But we'll see how it plays out.

    My main focus will likely be around the mid-to-late 2000s up until the modern era, as that was by-far the most enjoyable time in the NBA for me as a viewer and also the most enjoyable style of basketball to play in a video game IMO. The 7 seconds or less Suns, the early dominance of Lebron on a terrible Cavs team, AI and prime Melo, the Big 3 in Boston, Kobe + Pau, Melo to the Knicks (what could have been..), the Heatles, pre-injury D-Rose, Spurs Kawhi, etc etc. all while the game was still about the post and mid range game while mixing in the 3 to keep the defense honest? Perfection.

    Just need someone to put together a solid 2005 MyNBA Scenario (and any later years) and I might not touch the current era ever again lol
    My Slider Threads
    NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
    The "Movement" Sliders Explained
    The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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    • ExpedientFalcon
      Rookie
      • Feb 2021
      • 31

      #17
      Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

      While we wait for Eccentric's no doubt GOATed sliders, here's a preliminary set I'm decently happy with for yall CPU vs CPU watchers who don't want to wait:


      Base: All-Star
      12 Minute Quarters

      Game Speed: 60

      Mid-Range Success: 55
      3PT Success: 65
      Shot Timing Impact: 0
      Ball Security: 65
      Pass Speed: 30
      Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 100
      Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
      Ball Handling: 45
      Stealing: 55
      Blocking: 40
      Take 3PT Shots: 55
      Shooting Foul Frequency: 100


      I have no guarantees of how this will work for human sliders, that's not really my thing so much.

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      • Aicarg
        Rookie
        • Oct 2019
        • 156

        #18
        Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

        Originally posted by EccentricMeat
        I'm really just focusing on On Ball Defense, Defensive Awareness, and Lateral Quickness increases for the AI. As Czar said, elite defenders react quicker and don't have that huge delay. That tells me the mechanic must be tied into attributes that dictate who the elite defenders are, and those three fit the bill.

        I actually think I'll be decreasing Body Up Sensitivity, as I find it far too easy to trigger brickwall animations (especially as the user defender), and I want more hip-rides instead.



        I plan on doing sliders for multiple eras (at least the current and Kobe eras, for sure). Idk if I'll do the 90s, but I almost certainly won't be doing any for the 80s (as I have 0 attachment to that era of the game, and limited knowledge or experience around the vast differences in how the game was played back then). But we'll see how it plays out.

        My main focus will likely be around the mid-to-late 2000s up until the modern era, as that was by-far the most enjoyable time in the NBA for me as a viewer and also the most enjoyable style of basketball to play in a video game IMO. The 7 seconds or less Suns, the early dominance of Lebron on a terrible Cavs team, AI and prime Melo, the Big 3 in Boston, Kobe + Pau, Melo to the Knicks (what could have been..), the Heatles, pre-injury D-Rose, Spurs Kawhi, etc etc. all while the game was still about the post and mid range game while mixing in the 3 to keep the defense honest? Perfection.

        Just need someone to put together a solid 2005 MyNBA Scenario (and any later years) and I might not touch the current era ever again lol
        I will love play my Knicks at Kobe Era. Is a rebuild team and it will be fantastic draft some of the giants of 2003 class and who Knows? Lately trade for young Amare? 😍😍 Ohhh my….
        Dar_Veider on PS5

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        • EccentricMeat
          MVP
          • Aug 2011
          • 3242

          #19
          Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

          MAJOR UPDATE v0.0.1 *ALPHA*!

          Well, I thought I was going to be posting my updates in pieces, first focusing on movement, then defense, then tendencies, and finally shooting... BUT I haven't been able to put the game down since Thursday night, nor have I been able to stop my tinkering mind from tweaking every last setting that was available to me. So, I present to you the v0.0.1 *ALPHA* release of my full 2K23 "Modern Era" slider set.

          Basically EVERYTHING has been tweaked, so I need all the feedback I can get. What did I miss the mark on? What did I get just right? The more I hear from you guys, the better I'm able to tweak this set to the community's liking.

          Oh, and uh... Unfortunately this initial update was made with Real Player % in mind. I was constantly playing with new teams throughout my testing so I did not have any time to stop and learn every single player's jumpshot timing... I have no idea how these Shot Success sliders will translate to User Timing, but any of you that refuse to play on Real Player % (trust me, I get it) are more than welcome to test out your own tweaks to shooting and report back here! I THINK I'll be switching to User Timing in the near future, but that will at least have to wait until after I do some more testing and tweaking based off your guys' feedback.

          Now that v0.0.1 is finally here, I think I can go ahead and get some sleep. It's 5am and I have a Packer/Viking game to get to in the afternoon, so hopefully I have plenty of feedback to sift through after the game.

          Until then, enjoy!
          My Slider Threads
          NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
          The "Movement" Sliders Explained
          The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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          • Aicarg
            Rookie
            • Oct 2019
            • 156

            #20
            Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

            Originally posted by EccentricMeat
            MAJOR UPDATE v0.0.1 *ALPHA*!

            Well, I thought I was going to be posting my updates in pieces, first focusing on movement, then defense, then tendencies, and finally shooting... BUT I haven't been able to put the game down since Thursday night, nor have I been able to stop my tinkering mind from tweaking every last setting that was available to me. So, I present to you the v0.0.1 *ALPHA* release of my full 2K23 "Modern Era" slider set.

            Basically EVERYTHING has been tweaked, so I need all the feedback I can get. What did I miss the mark on? What did I get just right? The more I hear from you guys, the better I'm able to tweak this set to the community's liking.

            Oh, and uh... Unfortunately this initial update was made with Real Player % in mind. I was constantly playing with new teams throughout my testing so I did not have any time to stop and learn every single player's jumpshot timing... I have no idea how these Shot Success sliders will translate to User Timing, but any of you that refuse to play on Real Player % (trust me, I get it) are more than welcome to test out your own tweaks to shooting and report back here! I THINK I'll be switching to User Timing in the near future, but that will at least have to wait until after I do some more testing and tweaking based off your guys' feedback.

            Now that v0.0.1 is finally here, I think I can go ahead and get some sleep. It's 5am and I have a Packer/Viking game to get to in the afternoon, so hopefully I have plenty of feedback to sift through after the game.

            Until then, enjoy!
            I'm a Real Player %, no problem for me XD. I will test this afternoon and I give me feedback. You will work in a Kobe Era sliders to? Did you try this ones in Kobe Era?

            Thk for your work!!
            Dar_Veider on PS5

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            • EccentricMeat
              MVP
              • Aug 2011
              • 3242

              #21
              Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

              Originally posted by Aicarg
              I'm a Real Player %, no problem for me XD. I will test this afternoon and I give me feedback. You will work in a Kobe Era sliders to? Did you try this ones in Kobe Era?

              Thk for your work!!

              Haven’t tried it in Kobe’s era, but you’d definitely have to increase the midrange and post tendencies and decrease the 3pt tendency a bit. Other than that, they should be good (assuming the movement and general gameplay is basically the same in all eras outside of rule changes and player/team tendencies… if not, that will be a pain).
              My Slider Threads
              NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
              The "Movement" Sliders Explained
              The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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              • ch46647
                MVP
                • Aug 2006
                • 3515

                #22
                Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                Nice! Can’t wait to try the out. Were you able to create a bigger speed gap between players with these movement sliders?

                That has been my biggest issue with the game so far this year. Not much separation or space on the fast break because players don’t have much of a speed differential when sprinting.

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                • EccentricMeat
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3242

                  #23
                  Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                  Originally posted by ch46647
                  Nice! Can’t wait to try the out. Were you able to create a bigger speed gap between players with these movement sliders?

                  That has been my biggest issue with the game so far this year. Not much separation or space on the fast break because players don’t have much of a speed differential when sprinting.

                  There’s not much that can be done there IMO because of the way the AI prioritizes getting back after a shot attempt. If you want to score on the fast break reliably, you’ll need to cause turnovers.

                  These movement sliders give the defensive bigs a chance when rotating to help on the PnR or dribble penetration, while also opening up the iso game and making 1v1 mismatches a joy to take advantage of. Elite dribblers stand out, as do elite defenders, but average dribblers and slower defenders no longer move in that ridiculous slow-mo 2K likes to shoehorn into the game.

                  Try it out and let me know what you think!
                  My Slider Threads
                  NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                  The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                  The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                  • daveberg
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2788

                    #24
                    Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                    Getting stone walled on drives. I'm not a god on the sticks and am just starting to get used to the dribble mechanics being vastly different from 2K20 - any slider suggestions for better blowbys with elite players?

                    Literally every jabstep into drive, or spin move is getting cut off. Shouldn't be seeing that when I'm using MJ driving against lower tier defenders.
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                    • Aicarg
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 156

                      #25
                      Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                      Slider Uploaded on Xbox series X:

                      Name: Eccentric Modern 1
                      Gamertag: Dar Veider1868
                      Last edited by Aicarg; 09-11-2022, 10:33 AM.
                      Dar_Veider on PS5

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                      • BKL72
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 43

                        #26
                        Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                        The movements with your slider are outsdanding! Good job!

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                        • DarthRambo
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6630

                          #27
                          Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                          About to plug these in and play a game! 12min quarters I assume you're playing?

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                          • ch46647
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3515

                            #28
                            Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                            Uploaded to PS5:

                            Gamertag- Chrislax19
                            Slider Name- Eccentric v0.0.1

                            Thanks, Eccentric

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                            • DarthRambo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #29
                              Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                              Played first game with them. 12min quarters, I was Dallas. Scored a pretty effortless 53pts with Luka. I think touches need to be lowered for him as nearly every play call was for him unless Dinwiddie was on the court with him. Fixed rotations would help too as 38min is a lot until playoff games.

                              Honestly, the stats were great as far as FGA, FTA, fouls, assists. Cpu only with one block however, and I had 5 which is fine. Turnovers were there. Pics of game stats below.

                              Biggest problem is the cpu shooting percentage at 61% due to 76 PIP. They were constant throwing lobs to Bam which was extremely annoying. Sometimes they were thrown out of bounds or stolen but the amount of lobs attempted was insane. Bam shot 17 of 18, all PIP.

                              Some of the PIP was due to my shoddy defense, especially on the ball but cpu definitely needs to shoot more mid range jumpers. Shot chart shows 7 mid range shots taken all game by them.

                              I've had over the back, loose ball fouls at 100 myself before this game. Just wanted to see maybe with your movement and on ball sliders I would see them at your settings. Definitely missing from the game. Still yet to see one in all the hours I've played so I will be setting those at 100 even though that hasn't helped either. If those happened them team fouls would be on par with real life. As it stands those are just a bit low cause of that.

                              Overall these are a great great start for sliders! Movement is really good.

                              One big thing I forgot was to put coach defense help to 50. Idk if my roster with it at 78 was being used or not. Forgot to even check. Help defense seemed to be fine though. Nothing stood out. Next game I set it to 50 to be sure.

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                              Last edited by DarthRambo; 09-11-2022, 11:02 AM.
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                              • DarthRambo
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6630

                                #30
                                Re: NBA 2K23 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Next-Gen Slider Set

                                Next game. These are probably a bit too difficult for me lol. Only change was loose ball and over the back fouls at 100. Also coach defensive helper sliders were at 78.

                                Curry was insane lol. He even got his 5th foul with 6min left in the 3rd. Managed to not get his 6th though.

                                The lobs were not present this game. Didn't see a single one. But it's the Warriors and they don't have a guy like Bam. I'll still probably eventually lower alley oop attempts to like 20-25 though.

                                There were a lot of backdoor cuts from them that succeeded. And IMO they made far too many highly contested inside shots.

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