Will we still have to press start to load the menu?

[jmood88]

Re: Will we still have to press start to load the menu?

I agree with the thread starter. Why press start if I put the game in? There's not much I can do other than to sit there and watch a demo. I always thought that ish was a waste of time.

It takes like 2 minutes to load the rosters, online-offline settings, and to get to the two teams. Please simplify that.

The only thing that would be simplified is you not pressing the button. All that stuff still has to load, it's not going to magically go faster than the one second it takes for you to press the start, if pressing start was taken out of the game.

[jmood88]

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Or, if you prefer to use logic, why put in more work to add something to the game in the first place that slows down the player and load times, but offers no positives in return.

Where did you get the idea that games begin with this annoyance and it takes work for the programmers to "remove" it, as if they didn't put it there in the first place?

You need to read this thread. Someone already said why it's in games. I would like to know why you think that if you don't press start that there will be no load times.

[jmood88]

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Say if I turn the game on; and go to the bathroom. I want the game READY to go ONCE I come back from the bathroom.

But with 2K when I come back FROM the bathroom THEN I have to press WHATEVER to load WHATEVER THEN I am ready to go.

I understand and agree with LeBronze

That happens with any game that you leave sitting idle for longer than a couple minutes.

[lebronze james]

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You need to read this thread. Someone already said why it's in games. I would like to know why you think that if you don't press start that there will be no load times.

Like I said earlier, I could go do something else while it's loading if the whole process was automated. I could make some coffee or take a crap or get the mail. But the game needs to be babysat to load the menu, so I can't do any of those things.

As for the "attract mode" BS, that doesn't make any sense. In an arcade, they need to actually draw people in to spend money on the game. In the home setting, 100% of people who put the game in already intend to play it. It's not possible to convince them further.

[jmood88]

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Like I said earlier, I could go do something else while it's loading if the whole process was automated. I could make some coffee or take a crap or get the mail. But the game needs to be babysat to load the menu, so I can't do any of those things.

As for the "attract mode" BS, that doesn't make any sense. In an arcade, they need to actually draw people in to spend money on the game. In the home setting, 100% of people who put the game in already intend to play it. It's not possible to convince them further.

You can do that now. If it's really that big of a deal for you to press start and then walk away then you need to find a new hobby. Nothing has to be babysat, if you leave it idle and it goes into demo mode then you press a button and you get to the main menu.

[lebronze james]

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You can do that now. If it's really that big of a deal for you to press start and then walk away then you need to find a new hobby. Nothing has to be babysat, if you leave it idle and it goes into demo mode then you press a button and you get to the main menu.

I guess different people have different standards. You've got the Steve Jobs camp who demands that their product be nearly perfect before they let their workers sleep, and you've got the "as long as it can do the things the packaging says it can do we're ok" guys who would be more than ok with a design oversight like this. After all, it doesn't prevent you from playing the game, so how could it possibly be a flaw? Nobody can force you to have high standards for yourself or others. I guess you're either born with it or not.

[jmood88]

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I guess different people have different standards. You've got the Steve Jobs camp who demands that their product be nearly perfect before they let their workers sleep, and you've got the "as long as it can do the things the packaging says it can do we're ok" guys who would be more than ok with a design oversight like this. After all, it doesn't prevent you from playing the game, so how could it possibly be a flaw? Nobody can force you to have high standards for yourself or others. I guess you're either born with it or not.

No, you have people who don't care and people who want to whine about something that ultimately doesn't matter. This has nothing to do with having high standards, accepting mediocrity, or whatever other phrase you want to use to convince yourself that you are somehow better because you want to whine about pressing a button.

[eDotd]

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How about you just press the button and then go do what you have to do?

[jmood88]

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How about you just press the button and then go do what you have to do?

That's too much work. If I put a game in I don't want to press a damn button, even if for whatever reason I'm leaving the game idle for more than 2 minutes. How dare they infringe on my right to put a game in and take a ****.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: Will we still have to press start to load the menu?

by the way 2k7's passing - unresponsive

Yes, it does suck.

[lebronze james]

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How about you just press the button and then go do what you have to do?

Because the button marks the halfway point within the loading time. You've already wasted time by that point.

And I stand by my belief that an intelligent person always attempts to make the best decision when confronted with more than one option, even if it isn't a life or death matter. The "design of the year" awards for industrial or software design always go to refined designs with no excess waste. Needless to say, 2k isn't exactly turning heads with their far from intuitive designs. Hard to explain that improvements are possible to fanboys, but the unbiased would understand.

[jmood88]

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Because the button marks the halfway point within the loading time. You've already wasted time by that point.

And I stand by my belief that an intelligent person always attempts to make the best decision when confronted with more than one option, even if it isn't a life or death matter. The "design of the year" awards for industrial or software design always go to refined designs with no excess waste. Needless to say, 2k isn't exactly turning heads with their far from intuitive designs. Hard to explain that improvements are possible to fanboys, but the unbiased would understand.

Because anyone who disagrees with you that this is a problem isn't intelligent. And why are you acting like this is just a 2k thing?

[lebronze james]

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Because anyone who disagrees with you that this is a problem isn't intelligent.

Correct. There are two options. A menu that loads on its own, and a menu that requires your intervention to load. It's not life or death, and the fate of the world doesn't rest on which option you choose, but nonetheless, one option is clearly superior to the other. End of debate. Some people care about the details, others don't.

[jmood88]

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Still hilarious.

[eDotd]

Re: Will we still have to press start to load the menu?

Lol, I thought he started a new thread about this..I was about to say...