Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

[statum71]

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No doubt!

I like the game to be about the players. Not stick skills.

[GLZ43]

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Great post. I think everyone wins because there are options to make the game how we want it.

Thank you 2K!

Also thank you new poster for your well written response. Stick around

Thank you, NDAlum. This is one of the better forums/sites overall, and definitely one of best for sports that I've seen, so it's a pleasure to interact w/you all.

[WaltThizzney]

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It doesn't make the game easier at all. It takes away control from the user without a doubt, and by looking at the poll it appears most don't have an issue with it.

I could shoot 80%+ at the line with Shaq on any level once you master his FT release. I don't want that. I want the players ratings to determine shot success, not timing.

Yes it does what are you talking about.

This is for players with NO skill. If shooting is to easy with shaq for you then change your dam sliders.

Why the hell do you want the computer playing this game for you. Why even run plays when you can just bring the ball up with kobe and Jack a jumper and hit it almost 50% of the time no matter what D is being played.

Why play this game on pretty much "auto pilot". You mind as well do coaches mode or simulate every game because that is pretty much what you are doing. These results are beyond me. You are all the same losers who can't learn how to shoot a FT so you have to put on real world %. I want to be in control not some computer calculating if it should go in or not.

If they put this on ranked Online Hell I might have to switch to elite god forbid

Also I agree that Elite's shooting controls are light years better than 2k's.

No doubt!

I like the game to be about the players. Not stick skills.

So you like the game to be about computer generated % instead of moves and skills learned from time played and dedication.

This is just like Auto- Aim in Cod, I get it though, just sad lol

[CMH]

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Yes it does what are you talking about.

This is for players with NO skill. If shooting is to easy with shaq for you then change your dam sliders.

Why the hell do you want the computer playing this game for you. Why even run plays when you can just bring the ball up with kobe and Jack a jumper and hit it almost 50% of the time no matter what D is being played.

Why play this game on pretty much "auto pilot". You mind as well do coaches mode or simulate every game because that is pretty much what you are doing. These results are beyond me. You are all the same losers who can't learn how to shoot a FT so you have to put on real world %. I want to be in control not some computer calculating if it should go in or not.

If they put this on ranked Online Hell I might have to switch to elite god forbid

Also I agree that Elite's shooting controls are light years better than 2k's.




So you like the game to be about computer generated % instead of moves and skills learned from time played and dedication.

This is just like Auto- Aim in Cod, I get it though, just sad lol

You obviously didn't read the producers explanation.

Real FG% takes into account everything Shot Stick does just without the shot stick. So, no I won't hit 50% of my jumpers with Kobe no matter the defense just because he shoots 50%. If your argument was about wanting the risk/reward with the stick then I'd understand it and let you go on your merry way. But, your argument holds no water because the imaginary complaint you're making about Real FG% would be the exact same for Shot Stick.

Secondly, the people that play with Real FT% don't do it because they can't hit Free Throws. They do it because they sink too many of them.

I've made the choice to go to Real FG% because I think I'm far too successful using the shot stick and I rather that the challenge is increased.

But keep on making blanket statements. People here will like you more and more with every post.

[WaltThizzney]

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You obviously didn't read the producers explanation.

Real FG% takes into account everything Shot Stick does just without the shot stick. So, no I won't hit 50% of my jumpers with Kobe no matter the defense just because he shoots 50%. If your argument was about wanting the risk/reward with the stick then I'd understand it and let you go on your merry way. But, your argument holds no water because the imaginary complaint you're making about Real FG% would be the exact same for Shot Stick.

Secondly, the people that play with Real FT% don't do it because they can't hit Free Throws. They do it because they sink too many of them.

I've made the choice to go to Real FG% because I think I'm far too successful using the shot stick and I rather that the challenge is increased.

But keep on making blanket statements. People here will like you more and more with every post.

then why don't you adjust your sliders? Why do you want the computer controlling the game for you? Makes no damn sense. It is just like COD players who use Auto Aim.

[sick muse]

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Can someone quickly clarify something for me, even though I'm assuming nobody knows for sure: If you were to use shot stick timing and got perfect release every single time, you would shoot a higher percentage than using RP% right? Thus RP% makes the game more difficult, correct?

[Sam Marlowe]

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Aren't the players' ability to make shots tied to their ratings? Even if you go the shot stick timing route shouldn't you still get a realistic result if thats the case?

[NDAlum]

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Can someone quickly clarify something for me, even though I'm assuming nobody knows for sure: If you were to use shot stick timing and got perfect release every single time, you would shoot a higher percentage than using RP% right? Thus RP% makes the game more difficult, correct?

You eliminate the risk/reward factor. This is my understanding after JSapida posted how it works.

So yes you shoot higher if you are "perfect" and lower if you get "bad release".

However in my experience "perfect" meant anything but that! I could go into practice with Melo and get perfect everytime and the shots would not fall. Only FT's worked with the feedback.

Aren't the players' ability to make shots tied to their ratings? Even if you go the shot stick timing route shouldn't you still get a realistic result if thats the case?

Correct. A perfect release does not mean it's going in. If you ask me it should be that way. The FT mechanism uses a perfect release as a guaranteed make.

[Regalo]

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I'll absolutely use Real FG%, and I'm thrilled it made the game. I play Association. That's it. I don't play online and I don't really mess with My Player after the first week or so. I enjoy building up a franchise, improving players and putting in the time to construct a team that plays how I want it to play. I don't want to hit 60% of my threes with Stephen Curry because it's year four of my Association and I can get a perfect release on his shot while walking to the kitchen get a glass of water. I enjoy running sets, playing sim and getting players to the spots on the floor they can be successful from. The user input for me comes outside of the 5-on-5 via team building and before the shot with positioning and good playcalling/execution.

The only reservation I have is that variance is handled properly. There will be times when guys go 7/8 from three and times when they go 0/8, and I hope that's reflected well.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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I'm conflicted. On one hand I like being able to hang in the air late with a player or shoot early with a heady player without having a major penalty, on the other hand I like having some control over a make or miss. Then a mutant third hand sprouts out and says use real shot percentages because you like realism. I wish we could just be penalized a little for shooting early or late.

[R9NALD9]

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Many thanks to 2K for adding Real Player % for jump shots! This will add a lot of extra months of playtime to the game for me! I played as the Magic in my Association in 2k10, and couldn't even make the playoffs as I really have problems with my shot stick timing.

It always ends up with me having the timing down with one player, for instance Carter, and then trying to figure out the timing for Lewis...eventually getting it down, and then Carter's timing is all messed up again.

Really looking forward playing with this feature! I will only use Real Player % for jump shots though, as I like the extra bit of concentration needed for free throws...it add's a lot of tension

[CMH]

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then why don't you adjust your sliders? Why do you want the computer controlling the game for you? Makes no damn sense. It is just like COD players who use Auto Aim.

It makes perfect sense to me. Enjoy the shot stick. No one here is telling you not to enjoy your option. Not sure why the people that want their option are being criticized. Let us play how we want to play - especially if we're playing offline.

[drewbs]

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Yes it does what are you talking about.

This is for players with NO skill. If shooting is to easy with shaq for you then change your dam sliders.

Why the hell do you want the computer playing this game for you. Why even run plays when you can just bring the ball up with kobe and Jack a jumper and hit it almost 50% of the time no matter what D is being played.

Why play this game on pretty much "auto pilot". You mind as well do coaches mode or simulate every game because that is pretty much what you are doing. These results are beyond me. You are all the same losers who can't learn how to shoot a FT so you have to put on real world %. I want to be in control not some computer calculating if it should go in or not.

If they put this on ranked Online Hell I might have to switch to elite god forbid

Also I agree that Elite's shooting controls are light years better than 2k's.

I love how you seem to think that this is such a poorly thought out idea. That you seem to think that every shot that Kobe takes will have the same % chance of going in. I highly doubt that taking 20 closely contested long jumpers is going to result in 50% fg shooting and taking 20 open layups is also going to result in 50% fg shooting.

I'm sure it still rewards people for swinging the ball around and finding the open shot. There is basketball on the level of an individual player and then there is basketball on the level of a 5 man unit. This does nothing to change the latter. So I really don't see how it's playing the game on "autopilot." The shotstick is STILL based on real fg% and ratings, so you're going to be on autopilot regardless. If it wasn't, then there is no reason to even have ratings in this game. I have bricked a ton of shots where I had perfect release and made plenty of shots when I had poor releases. It's not as if you are in full control of anything either.

[Goffs]

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This is just like Auto- Aim in Cod, I get it though, just sad lol

which is an option to use by the way....problem?

[jeebs9]

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I'm conflicted. On one hand I like being able to hang in the air late with a player or shoot early with a heady player without having a major penalty, on the other hand I like having some control over a make or miss. Then a mutant third hand sprouts out and says use real shot percentages because you like realism. I wish we could just be penalized a little for shooting early or late.

Same here man...I can't even answer the question...lol Whats the default settings?