Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

[jeebs9]

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Yup thats something that bothered me a bit. I use to play with the Sixer last year. But I was able to shoot 4-5 from the 3 point line with Iggy in games. Thats just because I know his release. Iggy would never shot that well...that consistently in really life.

I might give this option a chance now.

[adwen]

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what about clutch situations or when you are hot and what happens if you contested helps if anyone can answer because some ppl have off night or going for their career high

[mfbball04]

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i'll definitely be using % for free throws, and timing for regular shots, feel like i have more control over the game, it normally ends up pretty realistic as in terms of normal fg% anyways, and i like sometimes a player will shoot better or worse than his ratings are, because that kind of stuff happens in real life..

[jeebs9]

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what about clutch situations or when you are hot and what happens if you contested helps if anyone can answer because some ppl have off night or going for their career high

That's where biorhythms (aka Cell Phone Bars) come into hand.

You see....A lot of people don't notice it from the users stand point. But 2k has a lot of Math working in the background. But of all the things I understand in this game. The biorhythms is the one thing I still can't understand for about 3-4 years now. I can usually make sense of the ratios. But I can't there.

I've always thought it worked like this

Hit 2 shots in row = warming up
Hit 5 shots in row = heating up
Hit 7-8 shots in a row = HOT
Hit 10 shots in a row = Unstoppable

[rockman2k2]

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Exactly, 4 games into my Association and Iggy has only hit two 3's with about 90% being uncontested. As the D see's him struggling to shoot they sag off him, making it near impossible to ever get to the rim 1 on 1.

Also, this isn't to say people can't catch fire. In a game against the Pacers, Evan Turner had a stretch of 9 straight points, after being fouled on a three point shot and making the basket.

I also find this makes Lou Williams a valuable scorer, as he has some good quickness, and has a nice percentage on his step back jumper.

Also, I don't find real shot % takes anything away from the control of the game, because it still comes down to their ratings. I feel all this does is allow you to shoot correctly with all players without having to learn each sig shot.

[ParisB]

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Dumb question, but with Real% will we still see hot streaks and cold streaks?

[jeebs9]

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Exactly, 4 games into my Association and Iggy has only hit two 3's with about 90% being uncontested. As the D see's him struggling to shoot they sag off him, making it near impossible to ever get to the rim 1 on 1.

Also, this isn't to say people can't catch fire. In a game against the Pacers, Evan Turner had a stretch of 9 straight points, after being fouled on a three point shot and making the basket.

I also find this makes Lou Williams a valuable scorer, as he has some good quickness, and has a nice percentage on his step back jumper.

Also, I don't find real shot % takes anything away from the control of the game, because it still comes down to their ratings. I feel all this does is allow you to shoot correctly with all players without having to learn each sig shot.

Yes this sounds awesome! I really might have to give this a try now.

Dumb question, but with Real% will we still see hot streaks and cold streaks?

He just answered your question. This would mean legit game.

Not some big men with a 50 med range hitting med range jumpers all game long. And this would add a lot more tactics to the game. Rondo won't be shooting open 3's like he was Ray Allen lol

[bobday]

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what about clutch situations or when you are hot and what happens if you contested helps if anyone can answer because some ppl have off night or going for their career high

I think then clutch rating comes into play, clutch situations. In NBA2k10 there was a stretch when I had 2 games of 3 ending so that I had possession and there was a few seconds left, both times the guy I'm playing against messed up the defense big time, going with 2 guys on 1 player. Which in the second case left JR Smith alone (don't remember in the first game who it was, maybe Calderon? I'm sure a good 3 point shooter got the ball that time too), open shot and misses. I gotta say I never got down JR's release and I was wondering did I miss, or the CPU simulated it? Now with real FG% I will know that the player couldn't hit it (will need to have good rosters of course, not the official crap) and not some animation was harder to master than others. Players won't over/underperform in longer streches too.

[Rawdeal28]

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Has anyone seen the other way. Where you have a bad release and the ball goes in? I've seen it severally times.....But they were with great freethrow shooters few times with Ray Allen and Kevin Durant.

I can't remember if I've seen one. I want to say yes. But I can't remember the situation.

yeah i have also with great free throw shooters. most of the time it whirls around the rim several times before it falls in lol.

After three solid days using Real Player Shot % along side the Simulation game setting and this is easily the best basketball video game experience I honestly have ever had. And I've been playing on the Pro difficulty setting.

I've been fooling around with a variety of teams and it's refreshing being able to hit an appropriate shot based on that players skill, rather than learning his signature shot.

For instance, I started an association with the 76ers and since they're certainly not a good shooting team, I'm finding every game to be very challenging. A good example was my first game against the Miami Heat. During the 1st QTR I was running my sets and playing sound defense, but Miami's offense and defense was too much for the length of a full game.

Overall I'm just loving the feel that real shot percentage brings to the game. Add this with the Simulation game style and NBA 2K11 feels like a good honest game of basketball.

i knew it wasnt broken, thank u sir. i cant wait till i get this game on friday!

[NDAlum]

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Exactly, 4 games into my Association and Iggy has only hit two 3's with about 90% being uncontested. As the D see's him struggling to shoot they sag off him, making it near impossible to ever get to the rim 1 on 1.

Also, this isn't to say people can't catch fire. In a game against the Pacers, Evan Turner had a stretch of 9 straight points, after being fouled on a three point shot and making the basket.

I also find this makes Lou Williams a valuable scorer, as he has some good quickness, and has a nice percentage on his step back jumper.

Also, I don't find real shot % takes anything away from the control of the game, because it still comes down to their ratings. I feel all this does is allow you to shoot correctly with all players without having to learn each sig shot.

Thanks for your impressions, this sounds exactly how I wanted it to work.

[rockman2k2]

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If anyone has any questions, or want me to run some tests with certain players or team let me know.

I've really only messed with some Rookies, and a lot of the bottom half teams in the league to get a feel for how I would fare against the top half. Just loving the results. I'm just loving how it seems to take into account what each player does and doesn't do well and how that effects his shot % as well.

[Rawdeal28]

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That's where biorhythms (aka Cell Phone Bars) come into hand.

You see....A lot of people don't notice it from the users stand point. But 2k has a lot of Math working in the background. But of all the things I understand in this game. The biorhythms is the one thing I still can't understand for about 3-4 years now. I can usually make sense of the ratios. But I can't there.

I've always thought it worked like this

Hit 2 shots in row = warming up
Hit 5 shots in row = heating up
Hit 7-8 shots in a row = HOT
Hit 10 shots in a row = Unstoppable

naw man lol i would never get hot if it took 7-8 shots lol

its more like this

Hit 2-3 shots in row = warming up
Hit 3-4 shots in row = HOT
Hit 5-6 shots in a row = Unstoppable

also, bricking 2 free throws while you are HOT will cool u down. and sometimes bricking 1 free throw will lower you from HOT to Warming up.

Exactly, 4 games into my Association and Iggy has only hit two 3's with about 90% being uncontested. As the D see's him struggling to shoot they sag off him, making it near impossible to ever get to the rim 1 on 1.

Also, this isn't to say people can't catch fire. In a game against the Pacers, Evan Turner had a stretch of 9 straight points, after being fouled on a three point shot and making the basket.

I also find this makes Lou Williams a valuable scorer, as he has some good quickness, and has a nice percentage on his step back jumper.

Also, I don't find real shot % takes anything away from the control of the game, because it still comes down to their ratings. I feel all this does is allow you to shoot correctly with all players without having to learn each sig shot.

bingo

[Rocboyz101]

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I'd have to imagine that if you held the shoot button too long, it'd still be a short shot if the real % is on. I wanted to try it for the short time I had the game but my friend took it back...

[Jukeman]

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If anyone has any questions, or want me to run some tests with certain players or team let me know.

I've really only messed with some Rookies, and a lot of the bottom half teams in the league to get a feel for how I would fare against the top half. Just loving the results. I'm just loving how it seems to take into account what each player does and doesn't do well and how that effects his shot % as well.

I would like to see the results of shots with these situations:

Spot up vs Fade vs Off Dribble vs Momentum

I figure things like Off Dribble , Contested, Clutch, Post, Dunks and Layups would have their ratings take effect

[jeebs9]

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naw man lol i would never get hot if it took 7-8 shots lol

its more like this

Hit 2-3 shots in row = warming up
Hit 3-4 shots in row = HOT
Hit 5-6 shots in a row = Unstoppable

also, bricking 2 free throws while you are HOT will cool u down. and sometimes bricking 1 free throw will lower you from HOT to Warming up.

I've seen it in short shots before that was just an example. Once I hit 3 shots in a row with Durant. And he was blinking red. In my very next game. I did the same thing. And he was just normal.