How's Your Association Going? (2K11)

[pokerplaya]

Re: How's Your Association Going? (2K11)

Gonna update my Detroit Association. As I said in previous posts, I am trying to limit trading, and really only trading where it shows a benefit for both sides and while also retaining draft picks in both years.

For those of you that want a good "Sim" plan where you don't play ALL 82 games - I defined a 50 game PLAY schedule. You play all opposing conference teams ONCE (15 games) - all of your divisional games (16 games) and every other team in your conference once at home and once on the road, except for one team where you only play them once (research your team's schedule, and make this one of the conference opponents you only play 3 times, each team has 4!) - and this gives you 19 games, for the grand total of 50. So you are still hugely involved, but can get multiple seasons with a ton of play even playing 12 minute quarters.

Here's what I've done to refresh (and then update):

The first thing I did was fire my assistant coach, hiring a Jeffery Kemp who is an A/C/B/A. I was able to get him for 1.32M so I signed him for the full 6 years, hoping that potential works to his defense's advantage and makes him a slightly better teacher. Cannot wait to get rid of Kuester, but couldn't afford it as I also...

Fired NBA Scout with 3M contract (who was a D/D I believe, incidentally) - picking up Maurice Wall for 1 year at a C level and B potential. Had to still save money for scouts, but any improvement here was good.

I kept my initial scout Chad Thorpe who is a C/C, because I was getting strapped when I signed his newest counterpart Horace Wheeler who is an A/A. I could not afford to sign 2 B/A scouts, so I took one GEM and picked up a D/A (Ray Davenport) for a year. He can scout my 2nd rounders, while my main scout will focus on the top of the draft and lottery with 2nd looks provided by Thorpe.

Retained Mike Abdenour as he is a B level for 1 year at 700k. He's a great trainer in real life, and I felt the money was better spent to get a good scout, better NBA scout, and much better assistant coach.

Before the start of the season, I traded Ben Gordon and Charlie Villaneuva (the two contracts that should have got Joey D fired, and the two players as a longtime Pistons fan that I absolutely detest as I believe they wrecked what was remaining of our proud franchise) - along with my '12 1st rounder and 2nd rounder for Corey Brewer, Kevin Love, and the Wolves '11 2nd rounder.

I immediately shipped Brewer to the Cavs and MY '11 2nd round pick for Jamario Moon and the Cavs '12 *1st* rounder. Happy there. Brewer was a starter role who would have taken a major morale hit and ratings decrease for me, for a rotation guy who can shoot the 3 and a 1st rounder (which in Cleveland is bound to be a lottery pick!)

In my last preseason trade, I shipped Austin Daye to the Raptors straight up for Julian Wright strictly for role reasons.

Played in to 10/31, and then went on my normal "morale/chemistry/contract situation" check that I do every couple games. Tayshaun Prince's agent informed me that he was fully intent on shopping the free agent market. I would have probably offered Tay a 2 year deal, as I love him in real life and he was one of the few remaining pieces of our greatness, but I put him into the trade finder...

First offer was what I took. Philly offered Iguodala and their '11 2nd rounder for my '11 2nd rounder and Tay. Apparently, they didn't like the 4 years he had left on his deal, and Tayshaun's expiring contract will give them a chance at Melo, I assume. I felt it was fair (it was trade finder at very least) and had solid sense behind it, so I pulled the trigger.

I am currently 3-4, having won 90-68 in a played opener at NJ. I simmed a loss to OKC 77-93, and lost to Chicago 95-81 in a played game. My team then simmed a win over the mighty Celtics at home 92-86, and then the simmers won the back-to-back at Atlanta 89-80. Day off, and then the simsters couldn't pull off the triple for the week, losing 82-89 to Charlotte on the 5th, and then another on Sunday the 7th at home with Golden State, 80-88. Portland is up next and they are on my play schedule for the Away game, so I'll be in Portland playing that game instead of the simsters.

For those wondering, my Western Conference schedule PLAYED games gives me 8 home games and 7 away, and out of the conference games, I skip playing Orlando at Home, so out of my played games, I play 25 home/25 road. Easy to setup, and keeps you immersed. Feel free to try it if you love the allure of 82 games but want to sim some but not enough to not feel involved!

As for keeping draft picks in my trades, I still have a 1st and 2nd in 11, the 1st being mine (I'm assuming it will be a lottery pick) and the 76ers 2nd rounder, and I have the Cavs 1st in 12, but no 2nd rounder. I can live with that, and I feel my trades were fair.

Will update more later, maybe I'll get a response this time!

EDIT: Also wanted to mention that I didn't consider moving Greg Monroe, even though he is a 4 star trade chip. Here's the top 5 trades I could pull off if I moved Monroe and his trade weight (most with another player):

G. Monroe (67/B-/20), R. Stuckey (74/B-/24) for Stephen Curry (80/B-/22) and Brandan Wright (64/B/23)

Monroe and Rip (77/No Potential/32) for Steve Nash (83/None/36) and Josh Childress (77/C+/27)

Monroe and Rip for Tony Parker (78/A+/28)

Monroe and Stuckey for Al Horford (81/B-/24) and Pape Sy (63/D+/22)

But the kicker that I wanted to take if I vowed not to move him and build around him instead was:

Monroe and W. Bynum (71/B-/27) for Eric Gordon (78/A/21)

Can get BIG talent for young big men. I wanna stay somewhat Piston-like though.

STARTING LINEUP:

Ben Wallace (74 OVR) C
Kevin Love (82 OVR) PF
Andre Iguodala (79 OVR) SF
Richard "Rip" Hamilton (77 OVR)
Rodney Stuckey (74 OVR)

Tracy McGrady is my 6th man, but currently injured and I'm only playing him like 14 minutes thru the minor injury. Bynum plays a quarter at point. Jerebko is listed as a Prospect and he splits with Moon and Maxiell at both forward spots, with Monroe getting bigger and bigger minutes at C. Ben is old and is getting sluggish or tired a lot after games, so I keep upping Monroe (and he's playing like he deserves it!)

Here's my total minutes, listed in parentheses:

Stuckey (35), Hamilton (33), Iguodala (35), Love (STAR for me/37), Wallace (27)
Monroe (18), McGrady (Hurt/14), Bynum (11), Terrico White (Prospect/8), Jamario Moon (8), Maxiell (8) Jerebko (6) - So yes, I'm playing 11 deep all at least 6 minutes. Hoping the prospects go up or the vets gain some trade value. Going to be a lottery team, need the value.

[x_NBA_x]

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Now that I've sorted out rosters, sliders and have the latest patch I'm finally going to start a proper association. Decided to go with the Los Angeles Clippers. Going to have fun with Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon. Hoping to sim more in the first season so that I can get to the draft and get the third player and then play properly in the second season to knock of the Lakers as the dominant team in L.A.

[HHHRVD55]

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It's been a while since I've updated my Jazz association so here goes...

Since losing Al Jefferson to an ankle injury three weeks ago, I've gone 6-2 with wins against the Grizzlies (x2), Pistons, Hawks, Rockets, and Cavs and loses to the Blazers and Knicks.

I ended up pulling off a trade to get a back-up C. I sent Chris Duhon, my 2011 2nd round pick and Jawad Williams to the T-Wolves for Nikola Pekovic. In other trade news, the Heat sent Eddie House and Shavlik Randolph to the Lakers to get Derek Fisher. They've since gone on a ten game winning streak. The Celtics sent Nate Robinson and Marquis Daniels to the Grizzlies for Allen Iverson and Acie Law. AI has played two games for the C's, both wins.

After having a horrible game, I took Fesneko out of the starting line-up and replaced him with Serge Ibaka. Serge has been playing great since Jefferson went down. Paul Millsap has picked up the scoring that we lost with Jefferson and he is really coming into his own. D-Will is still great, still number one on the MVP list.

My record stands at 32-8, tops in the NBA. The Heat are quickly catching up at 29-13.

With 42 games left into the year, I'll hopefully get Jefferson back soon (perferbly before I play the Lakers and Spurs in a few games.

[J-Clutch1]

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So, the Nets just received their first loss of the season, to the Lakers. Kobe was on fire and scored 32 to get the 110-102 win. I couldn't get the stops I needed or the rebounds and that cost me the game.

Harrison Barnes put up stellar numbers with 23, 5, and 5.

3-1 so far.

[JBH3]

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Hey JBH3, it's probably been discussed but this thread is huge and I don't wanna sift through it haha but do you alter any sliders? You seem to have some really good stats

Yea...I started w/ a base of PRO SIM and then tweaked to my liking.

Gonna update my Detroit Association. As I said in previous posts, I am trying to limit trading, and really only trading where it shows a benefit for both sides and while also retaining draft picks in both years.

I was enthused to start reading your post based on your plan, and your thought of limiting trading but then you traded Gordon, Villanueva, and Daye, and have pondered trading Monroe.

It would've been more realistic to say...play up to the deadline w/ your full roster entact, and then ship out Prince and Hamilton to contending teams that could use their services. Instead you just pawned off Detroit's reality onto a young Minnesota team that has started to come together (IRL), and taken their best young talent in Kevin Love.

Minny opted to move Al Jefferson in the offseason, and decided to build around Love and now you've strapped their cap and taken away their BIG man.

Even when I traded Charlie V in my association I only gave DET expiring deals (Peja), and not trade ready made NBA talent.

I don't really like the trade of Igoudala for Prince, but do like the idea of moving Prince...just would've done the deal for a contending team instead of a team that already has a lot of forwards who need minutes...Young, Turner, Speights, Nocioni, and Songaila.

[RajonRondo9Celtics]

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just started an association with the pistons and the raptors. I simulated the first season while doing developmental drills mostly for derozen and bargs for the raps, and daye and stuckey for the pistons. i went into the off season and drafted perry jones, 6'11 sf (#1 pick) to the raptors cause i felt they were most needing there. i traded down with the pistons (had #3) to #7 and also got rodrigous beaubois because the top 5 or so were mostly guards ,which i did not need having stuckey and gordan already, along with picking up beaubois. I drafted Donatas Motiejunas (7 ft pf) because we need help down low with ben wallace retiring. Right now we have no post D though with greg munroe (71 ovr) and Motiejunas (66 ovr) starting, both have in the 50's for low post d

Just played my first preseason game with the raptors and demar derozen is unstoppable... he is incredibly fast, has good handles, has great dunk and layup attributes, and now has a deadly mid range game after a year of improvement. Dropped 31 on the bobcats (Barg's dropped 29 aswell). Perry jones also dropped 15 although he didn't shoot great, i feel like once i get used to him he'll be a beast though. Next up, the pistons game!

[ajf14]

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I just played one of the craziest games w/ my hawks association last night. After dispatching the Lebronless heat in the first round, i faced the magic. They won the first two, then i came back to win the next two. they won the next game, and i won game 6. throughout the series i was unable to stop carter. entering game 7, my lineup was:

PG Steve Nash (Acquired at deadline for jamal crawford and draft pick)
SG Dahntay Jones
SF Joe Johnson
PF Josh Smith
C Joakim Noah

6th: Mickael Pietrus
7th: James Posey
Role Player: Mike Bibby
Role Player: Zaza Pachulia
Role Player: Josh Powell


With under a minute left to play in the 4th quarter, the score was 89-89. I inbounded the ball to Nash, and ran an iso for joe johnson. He drove, scored, and got fouled. He completed the AND1 and w/ 4 seconds left, the magic called a timeout. They inbounded to Nelson, who passed it to a wide open carter behind the arc and he sunk it as time went out. Overtime. The overtime went back and forth, and again, i sink the go ahead basket w/ a jumper by Smith. This time, 20 seconds left. Jameer Nelson wastes time and finds, guess who, vince carter, who has apparently become very clutch. He sinks a contested jumper, and its a second overtime. With about 20 seconds left, rashard lewis misses a go ahead basket, and hawks call a time out. Nash dishes a beatiful behind the back pass to pietrus, and pietrus sinks a 3. 5 seconds left, and they inbound it to carter imedately, who takes a 3. it rattles around, but rims out. now, the 8 seed hawks face off against the celtics in the conference finals. phew. im still sweating.

[Marino]

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Thanks Marino! I try and keep it as realistic as possible, and controlling all-30 teams keeps it fresh....some might say doing so is too cumbersome but I see it as there's always something to do.

Who you running with in NBA2K? Knicks? I don't remember any of your updates...were you waiting for the patch to drop?

I haven't started one yet, will soon. School and females have kept my time busy haha.

[Weeks]

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Chicago Bulls

So today during my Bulls Association I was up against the Celtics at the TD Garden. 3 minutes into the game D. Rose made a shot that came with the price of an injury. Severe Ankle sprain - out 2 to 4 weeks. We proceeded to play them tight throughout the quarter then with 3 seconds left Ray Allen did what he does best, drain a three midway between the 3 pt. line and half court at the buzzer. Down 26-21.

In the second half it was closely played throughout as well. Each team going on runs and taking hits at the other team. Once again with around 5 seconds left Ray Ray drained a three. Down 44-39 at half, which is reasonable since I was playing without my number one scoring option.

Six minutes into the third the worst thing that could of happened, happened: Boozer hit a mid-range jumper and when the defense was recovering they hit his hand and forced him to fall over. Boozer landed awkwardly on his back and couldn't get up. He had to leave the game and I was later informed he had a lower back strain and would miss 1 to 2 weeks. We were able to end the quarter on a nice run, so we were only down 64-63.

Boston started the quarter on a 20-4 run, and never looked back. Blowing the Bulls out of the building 99-77. Rondo's ferocious D was to much for CJ Watson who in Rose's absence had to play 46 minutes (because of no backup PG) and committed twelve turnovers.

Some stats:
J. Noah: 14 pts, 10 reb, 2 ast, 2 blks
K. Korver: 13 pts in 15 min
L. Deng: 12 pts, 7 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl
K. Bogans: 7 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk
Taj Gibson and CJ watson were AWFUL from the field converting on a combined 3-19 FGs.

KG: 19 pts, 17 reb, 2 stl
Allen: 19 pts, 7 reb, 3 ast, 4 stl
Pierce: 16 pts, 4 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl
Rondo: 14 pts, 5 reb, 10 ast, 4 stl

Boston had 9 turnovers to our 22.

With D. Rose potentially missing up to a month. I signed FA point gaurd Patrick Beverly to a 1yr, 1.44M contract. I also called up James Johnson from the NBDL.

My potential future lineup with the injuries will be:
Watson?/Beverly? (toss up, I will split min evenly and see who plays better for starting job)
Bogans/Brewer
Deng/Korver/Johnson
Taj/Thomas
Noah/Asik

[Da Amba Lamps]

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I'm doing a challenge with a friend bobcats, 1 trade override only 1 first rounder

I'm in year 3 and my line up is

pg-rookie first overall pick
sg-second year player rookie of the year
sf-danny granger
pf-blake griffin- he was my trade override player
c- roy hibbert

my bench is pretty thin.

we made the playoffs in year 2 and knocked 2 seed chicago out then took 3 seed atl to 7 games and griffin got hurt and cost us that game 7

[pokerplaya]

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Yea...I started w/ a base of PRO SIM and then tweaked to my liking.



I was enthused to start reading your post based on your plan, and your thought of limiting trading but then you traded Gordon, Villanueva, and Daye, and have pondered trading Monroe.

It would've been more realistic to say...play up to the deadline w/ your full roster entact, and then ship out Prince and Hamilton to contending teams that could use their services. Instead you just pawned off Detroit's reality onto a young Minnesota team that has started to come together (IRL), and taken their best young talent in Kevin Love.

Minny opted to move Al Jefferson in the offseason, and decided to build around Love and now you've strapped their cap and taken away their BIG man.

Even when I traded Charlie V in my association I only gave DET expiring deals (Peja), and not trade ready made NBA talent.

I don't really like the trade of Igoudala for Prince, but do like the idea of moving Prince...just would've done the deal for a contending team instead of a team that already has a lot of forwards who need minutes...Young, Turner, Speights, Nocioni, and Songaila.

Well, I *did* give up a ton in that trade (all of these are trade finder, BTW) to get Kevin Love. I gave up a 78ovr A+ potential SG and a high potential PF (regardless of what you think of Charlie V IRL) who is a 71. I think it was a B or B+. Plus an entire draft, getting a 2nd rounder back. Gordon is actually rated better than Love.

I don't consider Gordon and Villeneuva Pistons. As far as I'm concerned Dumars was an idiot and it was the worst mistake he ever made. However, this is the NBA2K universe, and both of the players I gave up have massive potential. Also, if you look at real life, take a look at how Kevin Love's minutes have been ridiculously juggled this year because he's "in Rambis's doghouse." When he gets the minutes, he's a beast, but in effect I got Jamario Moon, Love, and a 1st and 2nd rounder for Gordon, Villeneuva, a 1st and 2 2nd rounders.

For the record, I never pondered trading Monroe with any seriousness whatsoever. I've just looked at the Trade Finder to see how ridiculously overvalued his potential is as a 67 big man with B- Potential if I remember correctly - I am watching NFL and don't have the game on.

The Iguodala deal, he had stated an unhappiness with his minutes in Philadelphia (I scout players thoroughly before I trade for them) - and Tayshaun told me that he was testing free agency in the offseason. Does it still create a "logjam" in Philly at SF? Sure. But it's a nearly $12 expiring logjam. It still has a tangible benefit that makes me think "OK, he's unhappy and they have him on the books for $40M I can afford."

Now, as a true Pistons fan, I tell you - Rip or Tayshaun have to go before the deadline without question this year. Pistons fans can only pray that they can get either production or value out of Gordon/Villaneuva. I just corrected the problem. While I did get Minnesota's best talent, again, I did pay through the nose to get him, and I didn't do what half of the posters I've seen in this thread have, going and grabbing people like Blake Griffin.

At least Kevin Love's coach doesn't like him.

Also, I do a "real" Pistons association when Rashidi's completed association rosters come out every year.

Anyways, if any of this sounded bickerish, please don't take it that way, I just breathe the game of basketball and love to talk about associations (and read about them!!)

[pokerplaya]

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More thoughts:

After a dismal season and another half-year of getting older, who is to say Tayshaun (or Rip for that matter) won't have their trade values decline further. Honestly, had Tayshaun said he'd resign with me, I'd have probably re-upped him for 3.

I told myself that in this association, Rip would be a Piston for life. It pained me to trade Tayshaun, but he at least still has value. You and I both know that Ben and Charlie are crap, but in NBA2K they will be productive in this game for many association seasons.

Don't know why I feel the need to defend myself, I'm pretty sure I gave up pretty fair value all around. I'm thinking of shipping Iggy right along with Terrico White for Granger. I need to get pieces to build around. And by 2k's trade logic, I'd be getting robbed! 6 stars for 3.75!

I definitely agree with you on wanting to play with as much as the real team as possible, but when you play 50 of your 82 game season in 12 minute games, could you really play with 2 players you revile as a true fan? I just can't do it.

EDIT: just looked and Gordon leads the Wolves in scoring with 21.3 in 32 minutes per game, while Charlie gets a respectable 11 and 5 in around 16 minutes per. <shrug>

[pokerplaya]

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What exactly did the patch do to draft classes anyways? Maybe I'll start over and play with their class instead of the downloaded one I have if its worth it, I'm only a few played games in....

[thaone08]

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More thoughts:

After a dismal season and another half-year of getting older, who is to say Tayshaun (or Rip for that matter) won't have their trade values decline further. Honestly, had Tayshaun said he'd resign with me, I'd have probably re-upped him for 3.

I told myself that in this association, Rip would be a Piston for life. It pained me to trade Tayshaun, but he at least still has value. You and I both know that Ben and Charlie are crap, but in NBA2K they will be productive in this game for many association seasons.

Don't know why I feel the need to defend myself, I'm pretty sure I gave up pretty fair value all around. I'm thinking of shipping Iggy right along with Terrico White for Granger. I need to get pieces to build around. And by 2k's trade logic, I'd be getting robbed! 6 stars for 3.75!

I definitely agree with you on wanting to play with as much as the real team as possible, but when you play 50 of your 82 game season in 12 minute games, could you really play with 2 players you revile as a true fan? I just can't do it.

EDIT: just looked and Gordon leads the Wolves in scoring with 21.3 in 32 minutes per game, while Charlie gets a respectable 11 and 5 in around 16 minutes per. <SHRUG>

JBH3 i agree because in real life noone would trade keven love and with him gettin alot of 20/20 games ion think the coach would trade him nom atter wht

[Flightwhite24]

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Currently sitting at 4-0 with the Lakers on Pro/Sim everything on default except gamespeed at 46 and I am winning with ease. My last game Memphis led through 3 qtrs but I blew them out in the 4th and ended up winning by 12.

I want to go ahead and make the jump to All Star before I get to many games in but I have not played a team like Boston/Mavs/Spurs as of yet and don't want to make the jump to All Star and realize that Pro/Sim was fine.

Overall I am just loving this game Post-Patch