It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

[Gosens6]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Year 2..

0 trades

[Gosens6]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Also, I believe I just ran into another bug..

Before starting the pre-season I get a message saying I can only have 15 players on my roster when going into the regular season, so I find the team with more than 15 players, I try to release them and I get a message that says, "You can only have a maximum of 15 players on this team"

Ya think so huh? That's why i'm trying to release them but 2K's bug filled mess of a game won't let me. I'm so frustrated with this Association mode, I quit.

[rjohns23]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Year 2..

0 trades

man no CPU trades and you controlled all 30 teams?... I think I'm a just use one team and say forget it. If I need to force a trade for two CPU teams then there is a way to do that (three team trade with edit contracts, then trade the player back to your team, then re-edit the contracts) I'll look at the rumor mill for my potential trades. I think the way to fix the player role/injury issue is to edit the player's role status and then up his overall by at least one point then he will be fine... or just don't use player moral.

I play majority of my games in association 11min/HOF so by the time I'm finish with season one, then a patch should be out by then. (hopefully)

[The Chef]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Nope you dont have to do anything for the teams you dont want to babysit...

All teams reSigned the players they wanted...

Nuggets lost Melo, Shaq, Howard and traded away West for Azubuike and a '12 1st round pick on 7/7 (the offseason, before the draft!)

Kidd, Turk and Marion stays (Kidd 38 year old backup to Billups)

Only negatives so far is that I've seen 0 multi team trades and I cant find a way to let the teams auto draft without skipping the draft...Therefore there were 0 draft day trades

The AI even waive players (I seen DLeague Players waived)

edit-

10 offseason trades (no draft day trades) 2 rookies were in trades

Manu is now a OKC Thunder (OKC traded J.O'Neal/Foye to PHX for Manu)

Ty Lawson left the guard crowded Wizards to join the Pistons (Terrence Williams/Lawson for Monroe)

-I had to cut a player for the Suns because they had 16 players and it wouldnt let me advance to the preseason

-Nuggets sign Howard, Peitrus, Delfino, Kristic and drafted a PF/C with their only pick (2nd round)
Billups, Howard, Marion, Harrington, Kristic...Kidd, Turk, Pietrus, Delfino, Anderson, Azubuike on bench

Nuggets look good on paper but they have alot of aging vets therefor they are regressing...4 guys rated over 70 with Billups highest at 80...Infact, skimming thru all the rosters, 0 teams are stacked with a bunch of 80's...

- 1 80 rated player wasnt signed (Caron butler) 4 other guys in the low 70'sa

- 10 trades in the preseason

- Turned trades off until January first and there where only 2 trades...

- CPU teams send down, call up players for the Dleague

- 0 signings during the season (players not missing any games from injury is the reason)

- 0 coaches were fired of course

- Cant use trade finder

Appreciate the feedback. Ive been following the thread and can deal with editing the draft classes according to your specifications. I will probably just turn roles and chemistry off as I really dont care for the way either option plays out in game. I assume I can then reverse any stupid trades that might occur correct? Im fairly hands off and look at this as my own little fantasy world so some things might not bother me but seeing 2 stud PG's on the same team while one gets no playing time would definitely do that. Again, thanks for the info, sounds exactly like what I had hoped to hear in the end. Any other tips you can offer up?

[Jukeman]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Only 10 trades in year 2...

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Just in case, posted this in the bugs thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...thread-13.html

Please correct me (here) or add more issues if needed, so I can modify my post there.

[The Chef]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Only 10 trades in year 2...

One more question I thought of for you. If I do the 30 team association with all teams on auto except my own, can I still propose trades and have them be denied or am I basically trading with myself so everything is going to get approved regardless of the other 29 teams being set to auto? I ask because I know in The Show we could do this and teams would still decline trades but due to my lack of history with this game Im unsure how it plays out in this regard. Thanks in advance.

[tgballin]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Production...These guys had productive years within there role...Not to mention all of those guys have a high POT rating which will increase their ceiling

Run a test where John Walls shoots 35% 2 APG in 30mins and has alot of TO's...


Run a test where Rose average 9 ppg in 30 mins

infact check the metric stats within the game to see if all those players u listed were productive or not

Also the game doesnt look at 2009....

Have KD average 30 ppg in 2010 then edited him back to the bench the next year so his production stinks and watch how progression works.

I did every single thing in this quote and no they were not at all productive, and yes they still gained.
i checked the bug/glitch thread and ffaac or something listed EVERYTHING i was saying earlier in the thread which was totally dismissed by OS 'elders'
i just hope THE RIGHT PPL get wind of this b'c i dont want to ONLY play online this year, i've been playing 2k association for years now doing workarounds. i'm tired of it.

[Jukeman]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I did every single thing in this quote and no they were not at all productive, and yes they still gained.
i checked the bug/glitch thread and ffaac or something listed EVERYTHING i was saying earlier in the thread which was totally dismissed by OS 'elders'
i just hope THE RIGHT PPL get wind of this b'c i dont want to ONLY play online this year, i've been playing 2k association for years now doing workarounds. i'm tired of it.

They will gain no matter what but production will determine if that player boost 5 pts or 1pt, 2pts or 4pts

Guys who arent getting any PT are not jumping 5 pts...

Last year, guys who didnt get any PT did not gain at all, this year they atleast jump 1 pt...

[tgballin]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

wrong!
i tested your theory, i let players ball out year one.
then benched them year two they still gained significant when they shouldnt gain at all.

THE REASON FOR LACK OF CPU TRADES IS A MIXTURE OF
Player progression of young stars in the league now. tyreke evans and kevin durant will be MONSTERS ON YOUR GAME. b'c they are good NOW, young, and have ample amount of years before they turn 26.
while young role players or certain young skill players are steadily growing into all stars (78-82rating) if your going by rashidi's method.

think a bunch of 3pt gunners ALL turning into ball effecient players on O and LOCKDOWN DEFENDERS.

the reason i think is b'c the simulation engine is fine for the 'name' players but maybe a little inflated for the rest of the league. (brevin knight averaged 10pts 6 assts for gods sake. good thing he's old!)

i was gm for the bulls and benched rose and noah for the entire season 0 minutes allocated to said players, and rose still had like 10 6 assts with a bench warmer role. averaged over 14 mins with injuries off and me personally making sure he is not in the rotation but i cant contol a simulated game.

and i understand a new coach 'brings his play style' to a team, great.
but, if your using NOGSTER'S ROSTER and RASHIDI'S ROSTER and i know most of you are, when the coaches get fired, IT RESETS THE SETTINGS THE ROSTER EDITOR HAD FOR THAT TEAM TO GET THEM TO PLAY ''accurate"

real quick nogster turned 'run plays' to 100 for ALL teams. RASHIDI if im not mistaken uses synergy and coach sliders are VITAL to his roster.
well when 15 coaches get fired by year2-3 and then hire in some generic coach, you will have a worse roster then an un-edited roster by 2k to start our virtual bball season for that year.

im sure jukeman will have something to say on this post which leads me to ask: when do you have time to actually play 2k11?

im done testing and arguing with virtual know it alls, im going to sit back relax,practice and hope player progression and coach firings, lack of trades is at least toned down.

[Whomario]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

The coach profiles should change if a new coach comes in. As far as run plays (or any other thing you´d like to change for the new coach, or others) goes, there is an easy fix :

1) Just resign from your position
2) sign with the team with new coach
3) change the profile
4) resign and sign with your original team

changes stay even as you leave that team again.

The same thing works for most other things like player roles or rotation, only they then reset when injuries occur.

For me, for now simply playing without player roles but only controlling 1 team is pretty much the only reasonable way to play and actually get to playing with controlling every little thing.
I also liked that Poker-analogy, doesn´t make much sense seeing all the cards.

[FAM CEO]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Please don't grill if this was already suggested, but has anyone adjusted player salaries to see if that fixes free agents and trades? I noticed when I started my Association that every was in the negative for budget. Not sure if that matters.

Just a thought

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Please don't grill if this was already suggested, but has anyone adjusted player salaries to see if that fixes free agents and trades? I noticed when I started my Association that every was in the negative for budget. Not sure if that matters.

Just a thought

Salaries are off as usual, but not to an extend that prevents teams to manuver like expected, having the available or unavailable cap space ... at the most, it is a temporal solution as the real problem comes with the generated rookies that came into the league way overrated and with overdone potential, which causes a long jump in the salary scale ... also, the progression of players not getting playing time is altering the scale.

FA problem can be sustantially dealt with edited draft classes, so there is the workaround. Thanks anyways.

[TheWorldIsYours]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Salaries are off as usual, but not to an extend that prevents teams to manuver like expected, having the available or unavailable cap space ... at the most, it is a temporal solution as the real problem comes with the generated rookies that came into the league way overrated and with overdone potential, which causes a long jump in the salary scale ... also, the progression of players not getting playing time is altering the scale.

FA problem can be sustantially dealt with edited draft classes, so there is the workaround. Thanks anyways.

I think one problem is the over inflated potentials on the players on 2k's roster.

To many players have 90+ potential. A guy like Steve Nash shouldnt have a 90 in potential it should be in the 70's since he has already reached his potential.

I think to make this work better your going to have to lower the potential scale. Im going to some editing and make no player have more than a 90 in potential.

Guys like Evans, Wall, Durant, even Lebron will be at the highest.

Guys like Kobe, Duncan, Pierce etc. will be at best an 80.

Also Ill be editing rookies to have lower consistency stats. In the default roster I dont believe any rookie had more than a 60 in consistency.

[Jukeman]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

wrong!
i tested your theory, i let players ball out year one.
then benched them year two they still gained significant when they shouldnt gain at all.

THE REASON FOR LACK OF CPU TRADES IS A MIXTURE OF
Player progression of young stars in the league now. tyreke evans and kevin durant will be MONSTERS ON YOUR GAME. b'c they are good NOW, young, and have ample amount of years before they turn 26.
while young role players or certain young skill players are steadily growing into all stars (78-82rating) if your going by rashidi's method.

think a bunch of 3pt gunners ALL turning into ball effecient players on O and LOCKDOWN DEFENDERS.

the reason i think is b'c the simulation engine is fine for the 'name' players but maybe a little inflated for the rest of the league. (brevin knight averaged 10pts 6 assts for gods sake. good thing he's old!)

i was gm for the bulls and benched rose and noah for the entire season 0 minutes allocated to said players, and rose still had like 10 6 assts with a bench warmer role. averaged over 14 mins with injuries off and me personally making sure he is not in the rotation but i cant contol a simulated game.

and i understand a new coach 'brings his play style' to a team, great.
but, if your using NOGSTER'S ROSTER and RASHIDI'S ROSTER and i know most of you are, when the coaches get fired, IT RESETS THE SETTINGS THE ROSTER EDITOR HAD FOR THAT TEAM TO GET THEM TO PLAY ''accurate"

real quick nogster turned 'run plays' to 100 for ALL teams. RASHIDI if im not mistaken uses synergy and coach sliders are VITAL to his roster.
well when 15 coaches get fired by year2-3 and then hire in some generic coach, you will have a worse roster then an un-edited roster by 2k to start our virtual bball season for that year.

im sure jukeman will have something to say on this post which leads me to ask: when do you have time to actually play 2k11?

im done testing and arguing with virtual know it alls, im going to sit back relax,practice and hope player progression and coach firings, lack of trades is at least toned down.

Did u even read the post before crying?