Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

[BallH4wk31]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

The playcalling in Madden is a stale and pathetic representation of its sport, it shouldnt be compared to 2k11 in any respect.

Explain please how it's not a representation of real football? I've never seen it do something like call hb draw on 3rd and 25 when you need to score.

[BallH4wk31]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

And with that... I think I'll stop listening to you

I agree w/the point in the post above; I don't think the masses want overhaul and change every few years. There are tons of games that establish a successful base formula, and then simply improve on it. Whether it's God of War, Call of Duty, Halo, Gears, Madden (last gen), MLB the Show, or NBA2K. Seems like many times it's the ultra-hardcore out there demanding change more than a regular consumer who's primary goal [seems to be] entertainment

God forbid people have to know a little about the sport to win at the video game. Nobody said overhaul, I just want to be rewarded for playing smart. Is it so much for me to ask that when I have the ball and get doubled that my uncovered man kicks out for a jumper or cuts? I don't think so.

[Jesus]

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Explain please how it's not a representation of real football? I've never seen it do something like call hb draw on 3rd and 25 when you need to score.

- You cant select your line stunts

- Cant select your individual coverage

- Cant select your shell

- Passing isnt based upon he route but rather the player

- Qb drops arent aligned with the primary read because it doesn't matter.

- Line play is poor in execution

... i could go on...

[BallH4wk31]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

- You cant select your line stunts

- Cant select your individual coverage
- Cant select your shell
- Passing isnt based upon he route but rather the player
- Qb drops arent aligned with the primary read because it doesn't matter.
- Line play is poor in execution
... i could go on...

Those are all really generic statements, explain please.

You can't hot route a stunt.. true, but how many times do D Lines run stunts per game? There are stunts built into plays, but they're risky. You can choose your D Line's approach on the play though to clog middle, contain, rush outside, rush to a particular side.. I think asking to be able to set d line to stunt is a bit much.

Individual coverage you mean per player? The matchup of a player on another?

The coverage of 1,2,3,4 or 0 is your shell, I don't understand how you can't choose this.

Passing is based on two things... whether you read man or zone coverage. In man coverage you look for a player mismatch, so you're looking for a player. In zone defense it's 100% routes and route combos against zones.. player ability is unimportant.

QB drops are left to the player, I choose myself if I drop long or short based on what I read and where I am going with the ball.

Line play is a very generic term.. O line, D line? Run blocking, pass blocking?

I really do want to know what you find poor about these.

[northface28]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Isnt this a Nba2k forum? Im sure youre in the minority with Madden advocacy, but in no way can you compare Madden to Nba2k11, on several levels. Face it, Madden isnt about skill or strategy. Its about getting the fastest players on offense and running crossing routes against man coverage or post/corner routes against zone. Rinse, wash, repeat. Not the masterpiece youre proclaiming it to be.

[prolifik]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Isnt this a Nba2k forum? Im sure youre in the minority with Madden advocacy, but in no way can you compare Madden to Nba2k11, on several levels. Face it, Madden isnt about skill or strategy. Its about getting the fastest players on offense and running crossing routes against man coverage or post/corner routes against zone. Rinse, wash, repeat. Not the masterpiece youre proclaiming it to be.

Amen. They're 2 different types of games. Both are fun in their own respects, but as far as representing the intricacies of their sport, you can't compare the two. 2k11 does a better job. Don't misinterpret my words... I'm not saying Madden isn't a good game, I actually think it's super fun, especially the online leagues. IMO, 2K11 to NBA basketball is closer than what Madden '11 is to NFL football.

In Madden u could turn a fast receiver with a 40 route-running rating into the league's MVP. I have friends who start their 2 crappy WRs just because they are 97-98 in speed. The speed rating is overvalued and the route-running rating doesn't mean much. In 2k11, all the ratings mean something and they actually make the players feel different from one-another. When was the last time you could actually say that about a sports game? I don't think ever.

[Pared]

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Guys, steer the conversation away from Madden please.

Thanks.

[BallH4wk31]

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Amen. They're 2 different types of games. Both are fun in their own respects, but as far as representing the intricacies of their sport, you can't compare the two. 2k11 does a better job. Don't misinterpret my words... I'm not saying Madden isn't a good game, I actually think it's super fun, especially the online leagues. IMO, 2K11 to NBA basketball is closer than what Madden '11 is to NFL football.

In Madden u could turn a fast receiver with a 40 route-running rating into the league's MVP. I have friends who start their 2 crappy WRs just because they are 97-98 in speed. The speed rating is overvalued and the route-running rating doesn't mean much. In 2k11, all the ratings mean something and they actually make the players feel different from one-another. When was the last time you could actually say that about a sports game? I don't think ever.

2k11 has the same problem with ratings... why can CP3 get that stupid face to face strip done to him even though he's maybe the best ball handler?

How do players with great hands ratings drop the ball when you throw it into the post?

Do you remember when people used to abuse JAMES WHITE!? A D league player who had a high dunk rating?... and so he became a 2k phenomenon? Same idea as speed receivers... however if you play man coverage and keep a safety over the top, you won't have a problem with speed receivers.

Again, I don't want people getting uptight because of the madden comparison so PM me if you want to discuss it.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Video games are not real life....never will be....ever.


NBA2K11 is the best sports video game I have ever played.

Period.

[Da_Czar]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

A reboot of the series at this point is not only not necessary the depth you love in 2k is a result of how they work. Implement a new feature and refine it every year.

Unfortunately sometimes we all talk out of both sides of our mouths concerning games we love. One one hand we complain there are not enough or will not be enough NEW features to warrant a 60 dollar re -purchase but at the same time we want every single legacy issue fixed every year.

People say no game will ever be perfect but you don't believe it ? That is obvious.

There current model of implement and improve is the reason all statements of disapproval begin with. 2k11 is the best hoop game ever BUT... No but family it is and it is because of how it is developed.

A better idea would be to ask for less new features and more time spent on fixing legacy issues The problem with that is even if they did that you would complain as stated earlier there is not enough new to warrant a purchase.

To really really appreciate how good of a game 2k11 is you would need to compare its flaws to the flaws of any other competing game and said game would need to bring to the table all that 2k has going right before that conversation is even relevant.

sometimes as a community we can argue against our own good. 2k does a number of things so well that you constantly under-appreciate them while you focus on the list of things they don't do well. This happens when you forget that the perfect game only exists in your mind.

[Jesus]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

A reboot of the series at this point is not only not necessary the depth you love in 2k is a result of how they work. Implement a new feature and refine it every year.

Unfortunately sometimes we all talk out of both sides of our mouths concerning games we love. One one hand we complain there are not enough or will not be enough NEW features to warrant a 60 dollar re -purchase but at the same time we want every single legacy issue fixed every year.

People say no game will ever be perfect but you don't believe it ? That is obvious.

There current model of implement and improve is the reason all statements of disapproval begin with. 2k11 is the best hoop game ever BUT... No but family it is and it is because of how it is developed.

A better idea would be to ask for less new features and more time spent on fixing legacy issues The problem with that is even if they did that you would complain as stated earlier there is not enough new to warrant a purchase.

To really really appreciate how good of a game 2k11 is you would need to compare its flaws to the flaws of any other competing game and said game would need to bring to the table all that 2k has going right before that conversation is even relevant.

sometimes as a community we can argue against our own good. 2k does a number of things so well that you constantly under-appreciate them while you focus on the list of things they don't do well. This happens when you forget that the perfect game only exists in your mind.

well put. . . . .

[ryan36]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Extremely well put. As having never really played 2k basketball or EA this gen, I'm gonna think about it hardcore...

And I just want to point out from the main forum view it read:
"When will 2k stop using Jesus" because Jesus was the last poster lol

Hilarious!

[Jesus]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Extremely well put. As having never really played 2k basketball or EA this gen, I'm gonna think about it hardcore...

And I just want to point out from the main forum view it read:
"When will 2k stop using Jesus" because Jesus was the last poster lol

Hilarious!

lmao......thats rich

[Pared]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Just want to point out, the Celtics and 76ers went into "Jordan god mode" in the fourth and made 7 of their last 9 combined shots, including a ridiculous contested runner and an alley oop lay-in.

Wish that they would stop using PS2 tech; it's ruining the NBA.

[greenieblue]

Re: Sooo when will 2k stop using ps2 tech?

Just want to point out, the Celtics and 76ers went into "Jordan god mode" in the fourth and made 7 of their last 9 combined shots, including a ridiculous contested runner and an alley oop lay-in.

Wish that they would stop using PS2 tech; it's ruining the NBA.

Force the whole board to watch two minutes of an random NBA game = nirvana.