Does 3PT% need tuning?

[uponablackstar]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

I'd have to say that the three pointers are a little too frequent this year -- not terribly unbalanced, but it does need some slight fine tuning. There are moments when both myself and the CPU can't miss, even with rock solid defense in the face of the shooter. Hitting 3's can feel like a foregone conclusion at times, but I'm not sure if it's because of percentages. It might stem from too many players having a high rating in the department. I've noticed an abundance of players (albeit who can definitely shoot) with the "3" icon more so in contrast to past 2k installments.

Honestly, and not to sidetrack from the topic at hand, I think there are far more important issues going on that need to take precedent over others. Namely, fixing the NBA's Greatest audio filters that are missing from some versions of the game and all of the other quirks your team has no doubt read about by now. By and large, I don't think there are too many problems to sweat over with the core gameplay here. If anything, the 3PT% is one of the few things that I believe is an easy fix. Thanks for hearing us out.

[youALREADYknow]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Its not the ratings. There are plenty of guys that can shoot the three so they deserve the proper ratings. If all you did was change the ratings you would still have people spaming threes with the elite taking twice the amount of threes the player has ever taken in a real game in half the minutes.

People will always find one area of the game to take advantage of. Reducing the number of players who shoot threes like they are free throws is a much better step than ensuring that nobody in the game can hit threes easily.

If you're defending the Celtics and choose to leave Ray Allen open around screens, then you're going to get burned. Period.

If you're leaving Rajon Rondo open then he needs to have a drastically lower rating so that he's not much of a concern to you.

I think that the kind of drastic changes that some online-only gamers are asking for from the 3PT Success slider would do nothing to solve the actual problem.

[coolcras7]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

People will always find one area of the game to take advantage of. Reducing the number of players who shoot threes like they are free throws is a much better step than ensuring that nobody in the game can hit threes easily.

If you're defending the Celtics and choose to leave Ray Allen open around screens, then you're going to get burned. Period.

If you're leaving Rajon Rondo open then he needs to have a drastically lower rating so that he's not much of a concern to you.

I think that the kind of drastic changes that some online-only gamers are asking for from the 3PT Success slider would do nothing to solve the actual problem.

^^^^This^^^^ Sliders affect everyone this is not a everyone problem this is a specific players problem and one that could be solved by a roster update and not a patch.

[askaboutme]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Three point shooting is perfect online and offline.. the game just came out people don't know how to play the game yet thats why they complain... they will be sory later if 2k tones down three point shooting and mid range as it wil be a cheesfest again inside the paint

[mrclutch]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

2 things.

1. I think everyone needs to work with their Coach Profile and D settings before you say the percentages are too high. Part of the great depth of the game is the Coach Profile etc. If players don't tweak that first you may not be happy with the result.

2. I think like Pared said it has a lot to do with what is considered and open shot and off the dribble shot. Those are the couple things that may need ot be tweaked that would affect shooting.

Beluba- Thanks for the interaction and asking for feedback. I love the minor tweaks your team made to the shot stick by the way. Great Work!

[skillz7854]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Online Problems

-They either keep the 3pt ratings slider at 50 or drop it down to 48 or push the game up to superstar instead of keeping at All Star

-Fix the network errors its why to Frequent

-Add all the jersey online

-Fix passing,blocking,half spin delays

-And steal success

[Mos1ted]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

On-Ball Defense, find that slider and tinker with it (for you offline guys).

I'm watching a CPU s CPU game right now, the Suns versus the Kings, and I have every slider at 50 except the on-ball defense slider, which is at 100 for both teams. One thing I am noticing is that compared to 50, the teams contest more shots at 100. At 50, the defense is just really lackadaisical, and many of the shots that are being attempted are virtually uncontested. It could be that 50 is just to low of a threshold for this year's game when it comes to on-ball defense.

Good defense can negate or slow down even the most skilled offensive player, while bad defense can make the most marginal offensive player look like he's Jordan in his prime. So, the key here is to address the defense, particularly the on-ball defense, rather than to tinker with shot success rates.

[Zastrin]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Leave the ratings alone, just tune the three point percentage. Travis Outlaw 75 3PT should not be draining 3s like Ray Allen. In real life he actually misses a lot of wide open 3s. There needs to be a huge difference between someone who is 75 3PT and someone who is 91 3PT.

[iLLosophy]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

I say you ask again in like a week or two when people have more games under their belt. I'm sorry but that's a question you should be asking guys with like 30+ games under their belt, which I'm pretty sure a lot of people in this thread do not have.

[skillz7854]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

I say you ask again in like a week or two when people have more games under their belt. I'm sorry but that's a question you should be asking guys with like 30+ games under their belt, which I'm pretty sure a lot of people in this thread do not have.

I have played more then 30 and 3pt success is way too high chris bosh should not be dropping three's like ray allen

[nowitsourtime]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

3 pt ratings for most players are too high anyway. 5 or more people on a team have over an 80. Last year, on average, the 3pt ratings were lower

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Leave the ratings alone, just tune the three point percentage. Travis Outlaw 75 3PT should not be draining 3s like Ray Allen. In real life he actually misses a lot of wide open 3s. There needs to be a huge difference between someone who is 75 3PT and someone who is 91 3PT.

I wonder how Outlaw has a 75 anyway he made them in Portland but he was horrible in NJ. He barely shot over 30%.

[TeddyKGB]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Another problem is, there doesn't seem to be a big enough gap between the great 3 point shooters and the average ones. Translation: Paul Pierce can hit the 3-ball at basically the same rate as Ray Allen.

[Krodis]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

Another problem is, there doesn't seem to be a big enough gap between the great 3 point shooters and the average ones. Translation: Paul Pierce can hit the 3-ball at basically the same rate as Ray Allen.

Paul Pierce may not be Ray Allen, but he's hardly an average 3 point shooter. Heck, in 2010 he hit a higher % than Allen from three.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: Does 3PT% need tuning?

People will always find one area of the game to take advantage of. Reducing the number of players who shoot threes like they are free throws is a much better step than ensuring that nobody in the game can hit threes easily.

Agreed, doesnt that argue for a global adjustment.

If you're defending the Celtics and choose to leave Ray Allen open around screens, then you're going to get burned. Period.

More like if Ray Allen zig zags back and fourth or runs out on the break and pulls up off the dribble.

If you're leaving Rajon Rondo open then he needs to have a drastically lower rating so that he's not much of a concern to you.

Rondo already has a low rating and isnt a major threat from three. I leave him open.

I think that the kind of drastic changes that some online-only gamers are asking for from the 3PT Success slider would do nothing to solve the actual problem.

You lost me there. The problem is with the elite shooters who usally deserve their ratings. Dropping the Rondos of the world or the Wes Matthews will not solve anything because you cant spam with those guys. I played the Knicks and guarded the 3 well (even blocked a couple) and Melo still made 31%. If a guy shoots 37% in real life taking bad shots in mass with them should mean more than 6%.